Magical Knack Trait and Shadowdancer

[Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus]

Hello, I was wondering if I could get any sort of official conformation on the use of this trait on the spell like abilities for this class.

Thanks

[Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus]

I am open to opinions. What do you think? Should this trait work fot the shadowdancer?

[Mauril]

Completely edited because I might not be able to read.

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Yep, I can't read. Yeah. It should work just fine. Unless there is some stipulation that you can't apply it to prestige classes (like Favored Class).

[Tanis]

Are you saying that the shadowdancer abilities are affected by caster lvl? I'd definitely say not, unfortunately. Otherwise why wouldn't it affect every other class ability?

Caster lvl affects level dependant variables in spell descriptions, along with overcoming SR. That's it, i'm pretty sure.

[Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus]

PRD wrote:

Shadow Illusion (Sp): When a shadowdancer reaches 3rd level, she can create visual illusions. This ability functions as silent image, using the shadowdancer's level as the caster level.

PRD wrote:

Shadow Call (Sp): At 4th level, a shadowdancer can create creatures and effects out of raw shadow. This ability functions as shadow conjuration, using the shadowdancer's level as the caster level.

PRD wrote:

Shadow Power (Sp): At 8th level, a shadowdancer can use raw shadow to damage her foes. This ability functions as shadow evocation, using the shadowdancer's level as the caster level.

You have three different abilities that all state you have some sort of caster level. However you may be correct.

[Bruno Kristensen]

I don't see it as saying you have a caster level...after all, you can't cast spells, just use three spell-like abilities that emulate specific spells (and therefore need an effective caster level).

However, whether it would be unbalancing to allow it to work like you suggest, I don't know.

[udalrich]

At least in 3.5, it was fairly clear that SLA gave you a caster level. Complete Arcane was clear that Warlocks qualified for some prestige classes that required "caster level X" but not for prestige classes that required "ability to cast Nth level spells".

[Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus]

What are the rules for spell like abilities?

I can't find them in the PRD.

Edit: I just read the rules and no it does not help.

[Abraham spalding]

I would say it would work since everything simply states caster level.

[Benicio Del Espada]

Abraham spalding wrote:

I would say it would work since everything simply states caster level.

Agreed. If the ability functions with "caster levels" according to the class, then there's nothing wrong with the trait allowing a higher "caster level," IMHO.

Won't break the game, and you wait long enough for the benefit.

[Endarire]

The trait should work. Pathfinder Core 221 states:

Spell-Like Abilities: Usually, a spell-like ability works just like the spell of that name. A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus. The user activates
it mentally. Armor never affects a spell-like ability’s use, even if the ability resembles an arcane spell with a somatic component.

A spell-like ability has a casting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.

[Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus]

Endarire wrote:

The trait should work. Pathfinder Core 221 states:

Spell-Like Abilities: Usually, a spell-like ability works just like the spell of that name. A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus. The user activates
it mentally. Armor never affects a spell-like ability’s use, even if the ability resembles an arcane spell with a somatic component.

A spell-like ability has a casting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.

Okay, cool. Thanks guys. The PrC needed that.