Found consumables


Pathfinder Society

Scarab Sages 1/5

If a potion or scroll is found during a scenario and is used does it still show up on the Chronicle Sheet? Do you have to pay the cost of the item that was used?

The Exchange 5/5

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

1. Yes
2. No

If you find an item, you can use it for free until the end of the scenario, even if it is a single-use item, without paying for it. At the end of the scenario that item will STILL be available for purchase. The only time I believe there might be a qualm about it is for the things that say [LIMIT 1] etc. But even then I believe it doesn't reduce your limit.


Any items found, regardless of whether or not they are consumed during the scenario, are available for purchase after the scenario from your chronicle sheet.

You only have to pay the cost for an item you have found during a scenario if you wish to keep it beyond the scenario.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Thought I'd resurrect this one for further clarification.

1) Gold found during the scenario is not a consumable is it? If you find 100 gp and spend it on 2 potions of clw and use them during the scenario, does that money need to marked as spent on your chronicle sheet?

2) A variation on the above. Let's say you find a selection of potions and gear that total to 100 gp per character of the rewards on their final chronicle sheet. As I understand it, that total represents selling everything you found there for 1/2 price and splitting the take. You could not say... drink the potions then also claim the 100 gp worth of loot resale in the middle of the scenario, spend that gold as a consumable to bulk up on scrolls/potions/whatever to face the final encounter, and then keep all of the gold on the chronicle sheet afterward as if you never bought those items. Correct?

I think the issue with the second part that came up during a table was due to miscommunication on my part. I may have left the players thinking that they found "x" amount of gear AND "x" amount of money, where really they were one and the same- there were no coins. So I suppose the real issue is can you spend money you've found during the course of the chronicle to buff up and then just not record everything you bought so as to keep all the money afterward?

5/5

ithuriel wrote:


1) Gold found during the scenario is not a consumable is it? If you find 100 gp and spend it on 2 potions of clw and use them during the scenario, does that money need to marked as spent on your chronicle sheet?

Any gold found or from previous rewards, that characters spend during the scenario is recorded under the "Gold Spent" box. I.e. you do not substract it from the "GP gained" amount.

ithuriel wrote:


2) A variation on the above. Let's say you find a selection of potions and gear that total to 100 gp per character of the rewards on their final chronicle sheet. As I understand it, that total represents selling everything you found there for 1/2 price and splitting the take.

Correct.

ithuriel wrote:


You could not say... drink the potions then also claim the 100 gp worth of loot resale in the middle of the scenario, spend that gold as a consumable to bulk up on scrolls/potions/whatever to face the final encounter, and then keep all of the gold on the chronicle sheet afterward as if you never bought those items. Correct?

No, you cannot do that.

Individual items could be sold if the location of the scenario allows for that, but whatever is spent should be deducted in the "Items Bought" box.


ithuriel wrote:
2) A variation on the above. Let's say you find a selection of potions and gear that total to 100 gp per character of the rewards on their final chronicle sheet. As I understand it, that total represents selling everything you found there for 1/2 price and splitting the take. You could not say... drink the potions then also claim the 100 gp worth of loot resale in the middle of the scenario, spend that gold as a consumable to bulk up on scrolls/potions/whatever to face the final encounter, and then keep all of the gold on the chronicle sheet afterward as if you never bought those items. Correct?

So your idea is to drink a potion and then sell it afterwards and then buy it again and then sell it again? I like your moxie, kid! Have you ever thought about politics as a career?

;-)

Grand Lodge 2/5

Hah. Not my idea. I was shooting down this idea as GM, but like I said it might have been a misunderstanding where they didn't realize they could only get the gold by selling the items in the first place.

My goal was to allow them an opportunity to come up with some more healing resources since the group had very little and were struggling a bit, but then we veered off into weird gray territory where an idea was floated that they could spend it, yet not record it if they didn't want to keep the items after the scenario. I'm clear on found consumables being open to use during a scenario without purchase, but treating found/acquired gold as a consumable seems like something that would not be allowed. Just making sure I was on the same page with other GMs.

EDIT: Here's where I confused them- After an encounter where a lot of items were won in loot (low tier) each player had gained 111 gp of the 500+ they would get on the chronicle sheet. Some of those items were potions which were used immediately to restore the group. I was too lazy and didn't want to take the time to go through adding up the gp value that each player had at present if they sold all of the loot minus the used items. For speed sake I just said they could spend from the 111 gp value (since they were going to have that much value at the end either way) and mark whatever was purchased as "spent" on the chronicle sheet. From there we had different ideas about whether it needed to be recorded or not.

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