A few minor issues with Hellknight articles in PF# 27 & 28


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Regarding the requirements for the prestige class in PF#27, one if that the character must be proficient with all martial weapons. Yet, in the listings of the various orders, some of the NPCs are listed that would not seem to fit the requirement.

Examples:

Spoiler:

Order of the Gate, Vicarius Giordano Torchia (LE male human wizard 11, hellknight 2)
Order of the Nail, Paravicar Acillmar (LN male human sorcerer 7, Hellknight 1)
Order of the Scourge, Paravicar Orlayn Khorelos (LG female cleric of Abadar 7, hellknight 2)

Is there some ways these three could qualify for the class that I am missing or is this just an oversight?

Since our Cheliax fix is done now, I'm sure we won't see it anytime soon, but it would be cool if there was another variant PrC or two, namely Hellknight Signifier, which could replace the Hellknight levels for these NPCs.

The other issue is minor...in the article in PF#28, the history laid out make it clear that the Order of the Scourge is the first Hellknight order established, though previous products (the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting & the Council of Thieves Players' Guide) attribute this honor to the Order of the Rack. I assume that PF#28, bring the newer and more detailed treatment of the subject is correct. If any Paizo folks are reading, it might be something worth noting down to be corrected for the revised campaign setting when it comes out later this year (the reference appears in the timeline under the year 4576, on page 203).

Otherwise, great articles...excellent flavor.

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Methinks this thread will answer your questions.

ps. there's a link in there if you miss it...

Sovereign Court

4639, Sarenith The Order of the Scourge relocates to Citadel
Demain, reconstructing and expanding it to
serve as a meeting place for the lictors of the
various orders. The knighthood’s traditional
home at Citadel Rivad is left in the care of the
Order of the Rack.

From the birthplace of the Hellknights, Citadel
Rivad, the Order of the Rack continues the work begun
by the knighthood’s founders.

Cloaked in the ashes of heretical scrolls, inflammatory
quartos, and tomes of dangerous lore, Citadel Rivad
stands as the oldest and most esteemed bastion of the
Hellknights’ cause.


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Yes, I understand the part about Scourge starting at Rivad and relocating but that doesn't change the fact that previous sources claimed the Rack was the first order established. Just something that could be cleaned up in the new campaign book.

Sovereign Court

It's a pretty minor issue, especially considering how early the campaign setting was released compared to the Hellknight articles. Let me put it this way: Rack or Scourge, the Hellknights started at Citadel Rivad.


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hence the thread title

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