Is the Grick in the Beastiary? What happened to it?


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Just wondering and all that if maybe the Grick wasn't OGL.

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Fake Healer wrote:

Just wondering and all that if maybe the Grick wasn't OGL.

I thought I recall an older thread that said it was not.


I don't believe that the grick is OGC.


You could always check for yourself...

Nah. ;-)

(Short answer -- it's OGC, but it didn't make the cut for Bestiary I.)

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hogarth wrote:

You could always check for yourself...

Nah. ;-)

(Short answer -- it's OGC, but it didn't make the cut for Bestiary I.)

Hm, maybe I was thinking of the Grell.


Callous Jack wrote:
Hm, maybe I was thinking of the Grell.

They're easy to confuse, that's for sure.

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OK then, Please Mr.Jacobs and company, Please, please, please put the grick in the Beastiary 2?


You converting Age of Worms over to Pathfiner too??

Paizo Employee Creative Director

The grick got left out of the Bestiary because we deliberately skewed that book's contents toward reprinting monsters that have appeared in all 3 editions of D&D. If it was brand new to 3rd edition, it had to fill a specific niche (like the chuul filling the aquatic monster niche) or had to be infused with pulp-era awesomeness (like the girallon) to get in to the first Bestiary. Many of the others will probably be in the Bestiary 2. Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.

When can we expect the Dire Corby?

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James Jacobs wrote:
The grick got left out of the Bestiary because we deliberately skewed that book's contents toward reprinting monsters that have appeared in all 3 editions of D&D. If it was brand new to 3rd edition, it had to fill a specific niche (like the chuul filling the aquatic monster niche) or had to be infused with pulp-era awesomeness (like the girallon) to get in to the first Bestiary. Many of the others will probably be in the Bestiary 2. Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.

So am I S.O.L. James? Break my heart quickly please!


The grick just needs a little Pf love to get it where it needs to be. I mean, it's a worm with tentacles and a beak, for crying out loud.

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Fake Healer wrote:

Just wondering and all that if maybe the Grick wasn't OGL.

By the way FE, did you see my post about the flotsam ooze in the other thread?

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The grick just needs a little Pf love to get it where it needs to be. I mean, it's a worm with tentacles and a beak, for crying out loud.

It is also usually my player's first encounters with low DR. I love them for that.

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Fake Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The grick just needs a little Pf love to get it where it needs to be. I mean, it's a worm with tentacles and a beak, for crying out loud.
It is also usually my player's first encounters with low DR. I love them for that.

That's actually the whole reason they were invented, I suspect; to serve as a good introduction to the DR mechanic. Now that we've got a decade of familiarity with that mechanic, it was less necessary to make sure they're in the first Bestiary.

HINT: If you've seen us use a monster in a Pathfinder Adventure Path (or to a slightly less degree, in a module), chances are good that monster'll end up in Bestiary 2 if it wasn't in the first Bestiary.

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I love the grick. It was a monster I used quite a bit in low level dungeons as a tough opponent, and in groups they remain tough even into mid-levels. They have such an alien look without all the lovecraftian otherness.


Where's the Grey Render??? I couldn't find him under Render(Grey) either!!


Callous Jack wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.
When can we expect the Dire Corby?

DOOM! DOOM!


Callous Jack wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.
When can we expect the Dire Corby?

It gotten eaten by the recently discovered Dire Corgi.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The grick just needs a little Pf love to get it where it needs to be. I mean, it's a worm with tentacles and a beak, for crying out loud.
It is also usually my player's first encounters with low DR. I love them for that.

That's actually the whole reason they were invented, I suspect; to serve as a good introduction to the DR mechanic. Now that we've got a decade of familiarity with that mechanic, it was less necessary to make sure they're in the first Bestiary.

HINT: If you've seen us use a monster in a Pathfinder Adventure Path (or to a slightly less degree, in a module), chances are good that monster'll end up in Bestiary 2 if it wasn't in the first Bestiary.

Spoiler:
Cool gricks are under the Golden Goblin in Second Darkness...

And the Grey Render is in a SD set piece as well...


Dissinger wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
The grick just needs a little Pf love to get it where it needs to be. I mean, it's a worm with tentacles and a beak, for crying out loud.
It is also usually my player's first encounters with low DR. I love them for that.

That's actually the whole reason they were invented, I suspect; to serve as a good introduction to the DR mechanic. Now that we've got a decade of familiarity with that mechanic, it was less necessary to make sure they're in the first Bestiary.

HINT: If you've seen us use a monster in a Pathfinder Adventure Path (or to a slightly less degree, in a module), chances are good that monster'll end up in Bestiary 2 if it wasn't in the first Bestiary.

** spoiler omitted **

And the Grey Render is in a SD set piece as well...

I think we meant the PFRPG ones more so, e.g. the Achaierai and Hellcat have both appeared with art in Council of Thieves, and are very very likely to be in Bestiary 2!

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The artist for the Achaierai took what was a goofy looking monster and made it look awesome.


Callous Jack wrote:
The artist for the Achaierai took what was a goofy looking monster and made it look awesome.

Here, here! I couldn't agree more!


Dissinger wrote:


** spoiler omitted **

And the Grey Render is in a SD set piece as well...

Thanks for putting in the spoiler block, but it helps to note the campaign the spoiler is for in a plaintext intro. Otherwise, we don't know what the spoiler's for until it's been spoiled. D'oh!


Add +1 for wanting to see the grick in the next monster book. When it first hit 3.x, I tough it was one of the coolest new monsters.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Some might NEVER make it into a Pathfinder Bestiary.
When can we expect the Dire Corby?
It gotten eaten by the recently discovered Dire Corgi.

The question is, does the Fellnight Queen have Dire Corgis?

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Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
The question is, does the Fellnight Queen have Dire Corgis?

Or better yet, does the Fellnight Queen carry them in a little pocketbook?


In a LV over-the-shoulder pet carrier. Definitely.

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Dissinger wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


That's actually the whole reason they were invented, I suspect; to serve as a good introduction to the DR mechanic. Now that we've got a decade of familiarity with that mechanic, it was less necessary to make sure they're in the first Bestiary.

HINT: If you've seen us use a monster in a Pathfinder Adventure Path (or to a slightly less degree, in a module), chances are good that monster'll end up in Bestiary 2 if it wasn't in the first Bestiary.

** spoiler omitted **

And the Grey Render is in a SD set piece as well...

Grick spotted in module:
D1 Crown of the Kobold king in room #2 of Droskar's Crucible roosting in a vent.
Paizo Employee Creative Director

We also put a grick in Pathfinder #13. Even gave it a half-page illustration in a fight scene.

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James Jacobs wrote:
We also put a grick in Pathfinder #13. Even gave it a half-page illustration in a fight scene.

Awesome!

(Runs to his PDF of P13)

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
We also put a grick in Pathfinder #13. Even gave it a half-page illustration in a fight scene.

As a DM that was a freaking awesome encounter, with the light eating stones, and the watery pool. It took a few rounds for my players to figure out what was happening exactly.


Callous Jack wrote:
When can we expect the Dire Corby?

Not OGC, alas, but I statted one for 3.5 with a cool leap attack SA on these boards once (mostly just to annoy JJ who hates them worse than anything). P.S. If you follow that thread, it should be CR 2.


Really? It was in Tome of Horrors then just by special permission?


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Really? It was in Tome of Horrors then just by special permission?

Ooh... I forgot ToH. My dire corby is better, though, if I do say so myself (mostly because it fills a somewhat different mechanical niche: ambush attacker over rough terrain, vs. their generic mook).


Well, in penance for being wrong, and to actually succeed in annoying the Chief, you should update it to Pf...


Dissinger wrote:
And the Grey Render is in a set piece as well...

With an incredibly awesome picture at that! Gave me respect for them.


Dire Corby (CR 2)
Usually NE Medium Monstrous Humanoid
Init +2; Senses darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision; Perception +5

AC 14, touch 12, flat-footed 12 (+2 natural, +2 Dex)
hp 11 (2 HD); ferocity
Immune fear
Fort +1, Ref +4, Will +3

Spd 30 ft.
Melee 2 claws +5 (1d6+3)
Special Atks leap attack

Abilities Str 16, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 6, Wis 12, Cha 8
Base Atk +2; CMB +5; CMD 17
Feats Blind-Fight, Run (B)

Skills Acrobatics +6, Climb +7, Perception +5; Racial Bonuses +4 to Climb (due to clawed limbs). A dire corby can always take 10 on Balance, Climb, and Jump checks, even when conditions would normally prevent it.
Languages Aklo

Leap Attack (Ex): A dire corby begins combat by combining a jump with a charge against an opponent. If it covers at least 10 feet of horizontal distance with its jump, and ends its jump in a square from which it threatens a target, it can attack with both claws at a +5 bonus for 1d6+5 points of damage each.
This attack follows all the normal rules for using the Acrobatics skill and for making a charge, except that the dire corby ignores rough terrain in any square it jumps over.

Ferocity (Ex): A dire corby is such a tenacious combatant that it continues to fight without penalty even while disabled or dying.

Immunity to Fear (Ex): Dire corbies are immune to all fear effects, and to any spells, powers, or effects involving a morale penalty.


Thanks, Kirth!


*basks*

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