paizo.com Recent Posts in Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dewpaizo.com Recent Posts in Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dew2012-11-15T22:19:36Z2012-11-15T22:19:36ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewIan Careyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#342010-01-26T14:01:44Z2010-01-26T14:01:44Z<p>I like the Chalice but I feel it needs more !Oomph! still good, Looking forward to seeing your next offering. Way to go dude.</p>I like the Chalice but I feel it needs more !Oomph! still good, Looking forward to seeing your next offering. Way to go dude.Ian Carey2010-01-26T14:01:44ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewDennis Bakerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#332011-08-01T20:25:43Z2010-01-24T02:43:13Z<p>It bugs me a bit that this is the item doesn't need to be under the sun, or even outdoors to collect dew... I know it's a silly side issue but I would kind of like... dew and sunrise to be involved in the magic.</p>
<p>Yeah, it is a nitpick but there it is.</p>It bugs me a bit that this is the item doesn't need to be under the sun, or even outdoors to collect dew... I know it's a silly side issue but I would kind of like... dew and sunrise to be involved in the magic.
Yeah, it is a nitpick but there it is.Dennis Baker2010-01-24T02:43:13ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewJoe Wellshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#322010-01-23T23:03:59Z2010-01-23T23:03:59Z<p>Very nice imagery. I think this works best as lore to flesh out the backstory of the clergy of Sarenrae and possibly as a sacramental item used in her open-air temples. Carrying one these around by an adventurer would probably be frowned upon by her priesthood. But that's OK. It adds more texture to the world and a detail like this can really elevate a scene.</p>
<p>Nicely done! Good luck next week!</p>Very nice imagery. I think this works best as lore to flesh out the backstory of the clergy of Sarenrae and possibly as a sacramental item used in her open-air temples. Carrying one these around by an adventurer would probably be frowned upon by her priesthood. But that's OK. It adds more texture to the world and a detail like this can really elevate a scene.
Nicely done! Good luck next week!Joe Wells2010-01-23T23:03:59ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewEric Hindleyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#312010-01-23T20:17:30Z2010-01-23T20:17:25Z<p>The imagery on this item is fantastic, the more this rounds items I read this year, the more I think this really is what counted. This really is just an all-day <i>aid</i>-in-a-can with an irritating activation method. It really has to sit undisturbed for 4 hours before dawn before I can use it? That's annoying. It also doesn't scream Sarenrae to me, but to each his own.</p>
<p>I do look forward to your monster, though, and hope it lives up to the promising prose shown here.</p>The imagery on this item is fantastic, the more this rounds items I read this year, the more I think this really is what counted. This really is just an all-day aid-in-a-can with an irritating activation method. It really has to sit undisturbed for 4 hours before dawn before I can use it? That's annoying. It also doesn't scream Sarenrae to me, but to each his own.
I do look forward to your monster, though, and hope it lives up to the promising prose shown here.Eric Hindley2010-01-23T20:17:25ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewSean McGowanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#302010-01-23T07:34:49Z2010-01-23T07:34:49Z<p>Very, very nice. Not 'wow'-ish, but simple, lovely and elegant. And the fact that you pulled off such an evocative description without coming anywhere close to the word count is impressive- you didn't even broach 200 words. This could have made it unaltered into <i>last</i> years more restrictive contest. Which, to me, says you can resist adding unnecessary padding and fluff like other people (i.e., me, for one...) did when we saw we had an extra 100 words to play around with. Good job.</p>Very, very nice. Not 'wow'-ish, but simple, lovely and elegant. And the fact that you pulled off such an evocative description without coming anywhere close to the word count is impressive- you didn't even broach 200 words. This could have made it unaltered into last years more restrictive contest. Which, to me, says you can resist adding unnecessary padding and fluff like other people (i.e., me, for one...) did when we saw we had an extra 100 words to play around with. Good job.Sean McGowan2010-01-23T07:34:49ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewTobias Mullenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#292010-01-23T04:35:36Z2010-01-23T04:35:35Z<p>Your description of the chalice immediately makes me want to put it in a treasure hoard, because I know that all of my players would make a bee line for this and try to figure out what it does. I think the beauty of the item would quickly be overshadowed as players just roll their temporary hit points at the start of each day.</p>
<p>Your writing draws me in and makes me want to read more stuff from you, so I am greatly looking forward to your Round 2 submission.</p>
<p>TM</p>Your description of the chalice immediately makes me want to put it in a treasure hoard, because I know that all of my players would make a bee line for this and try to figure out what it does. I think the beauty of the item would quickly be overshadowed as players just roll their temporary hit points at the start of each day.
Your writing draws me in and makes me want to read more stuff from you, so I am greatly looking forward to your Round 2 submission.
TMTobias Mullen2010-01-23T04:35:35ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewPower Word Unzip (alias of Richard Moore, Jon Brazer Enterprises)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#282010-01-21T21:49:10Z2010-01-21T21:49:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">deemshy wrote:</div><blockquote> <span class=messageboard-bigger><b>Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dew</b></span></blockquote><p>This is a good item. The description keeps me reading even though it's very basic and straightforward. I think the <i>tankard</i> did the cure-in-a-can schtick better, though.deemshy wrote:Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dew
This is a good item. The description keeps me reading even though it's very basic and straightforward. I think the tankard did the cure-in-a-can schtick better, though.Power Word Unzip (alias of Richard Moore, Jon Brazer Enterprises)2010-01-21T21:49:10ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewJason Nelsonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#272010-01-21T20:12:52Z2010-01-21T20:12:52Z<p>I like this one okay but I don't love it. The description is lovely, the background detail just enough of a touch and not too much, and the effect is handy and enough different to make it not just a SIAC, but it's just not grabbing me the way some of the others have done. Good... but you might need to kick it up a notch in the later rounds.</p>
<p>Best of luck in Superstar 2010!</p>I like this one okay but I don't love it. The description is lovely, the background detail just enough of a touch and not too much, and the effect is handy and enough different to make it not just a SIAC, but it's just not grabbing me the way some of the others have done. Good... but you might need to kick it up a notch in the later rounds.
Best of luck in Superstar 2010!Jason Nelson2010-01-21T20:12:52ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewMike Welhamhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#262018-09-27T22:34:52Z2010-01-21T03:55:32Z<p>This item is elegant in its simplicity. Of course, I'm not sure how many characters would ever keep their temporary hit points until the following dawn. :)</p>
<p>Congratulations and best of luck in the next round.</p>This item is elegant in its simplicity. Of course, I'm not sure how many characters would ever keep their temporary hit points until the following dawn. :)
Congratulations and best of luck in the next round.Mike Welham2010-01-21T03:55:32ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewBenjamin Bruckhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#252010-01-20T22:42:58Z2010-01-20T22:42:57Z<p>This is the kind of item that really gets me thinking of how I'd use it in a game. Lots of fun flavor to be found. Nice job!</p>This is the kind of item that really gets me thinking of how I'd use it in a game. Lots of fun flavor to be found. Nice job!Benjamin Bruck2010-01-20T22:42:57ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dewroguerougehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#242010-01-20T22:37:29Z2010-01-20T22:37:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Caedwyr wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>Bags of holding do not exist in the real world and people can still take fragile objects with them when they go hiking/backpacking. I can picture something similar to a <a href="http://www.cudakitchen.com/catalog-product.php?p_ref=2776" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">traveling wine bottle/glass case</a> being used to deal with the fragility. </blockquote><p>Ah. See, I've broken wine glasses in those traveling thingies before. I failed to latch it properly. That's where my lack of faith in anything but extra-dimensional luggage comes from.Caedwyr wrote:Bags of holding do not exist in the real world and people can still take fragile objects with them when they go hiking/backpacking. I can picture something similar to a traveling wine bottle/glass case being used to deal with the fragility.
Ah. See, I've broken wine glasses in those traveling thingies before. I failed to latch it properly. That's where my lack of faith in anything but extra-dimensional luggage comes from.roguerouge2010-01-20T22:37:29ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewOdonna Mirrinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#232010-01-20T21:48:04Z2010-01-20T21:48:04Z<p>I don't know the whole mechanics thing, but I really like this item. My party will really enjoy this item. I have a player who is a fighter who is dedicated to Sarenrae. He took Traits that we tied into a religious context and plays them well. I can totally see him adoring this item, and lots of role playing potential. It might be an item he gets gifted to him from the local church but I like the idea that it's a religious item that is stolen or missing and he needs to quest for it. It isn't super powerful but just adds a neat flavour. I can so easily find a picture of this and print out and give to the player as well as we use the spell cards. I just like it a lot. </p>
<p>Thanks a bunch and good luck</p>I don't know the whole mechanics thing, but I really like this item. My party will really enjoy this item. I have a player who is a fighter who is dedicated to Sarenrae. He took Traits that we tied into a religious context and plays them well. I can totally see him adoring this item, and lots of role playing potential. It might be an item he gets gifted to him from the local church but I like the idea that it's a religious item that is stolen or missing and he needs to quest for it. It isn't...Odonna Mirrin2010-01-20T21:48:04ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#222010-01-20T21:35:52Z2010-01-20T21:35:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">roguerouge wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only because the description seems to make buying a bag of holding mandatory to keep this item safe. Still temp HP is LIFE, so it's tempting. I don't know.
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</blockquote><p>Bags of holding do not exist in the real world and people can still take fragile objects with them when they go hiking/backpacking. I can picture something similar to a <a href="http://www.cudakitchen.com/catalog-product.php?p_ref=2776" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">traveling wine bottle/glass case</a> being used to deal with the fragility.roguerouge wrote:But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only because the description seems to make buying a bag of holding mandatory to keep this item safe. Still temp HP is LIFE, so it's tempting. I don't know.
Bags of holding do not exist in the real world and people...Caedwyr2010-01-20T21:35:52ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewJoel Flankhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#212010-01-20T21:14:58Z2010-01-20T21:14:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">roguerouge wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Congrats on the win! You made it to the next round, where the stress, tears, recrimination and, hopefully, joy are to be found. Seriously? Enjoy the ride. And I second the affirmation of the flavor here.</p>
<p>But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only because the description seems to make buying a bag of holding mandatory to keep this item safe. Still temp HP is LIFE, so it's tempting. I don't know. </p>
<p></blockquote><p>Well, if you mentally equate this to a potion of false life, which costs 300, gives 1 more temp hp on average, but only for 3 hours, then at 5,200 gp, this item pays for itself after 18 uses. When you then factor in that the temp hp last all day, I think it's well worth the money. You probably wouldn't be affording one until 6-8th level though, depending on your spending preferences.roguerouge wrote:Congrats on the win! You made it to the next round, where the stress, tears, recrimination and, hopefully, joy are to be found. Seriously? Enjoy the ride. And I second the affirmation of the flavor here.
But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only...Joel Flank2010-01-20T21:14:58ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dewroguerougehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#202010-01-20T21:00:38Z2010-01-20T21:00:38Z<p>Congrats on the win! You made it to the next round, where the stress, tears, recrimination and, hopefully, joy are to be found. Seriously? Enjoy the ride. And I second the affirmation of the flavor here.</p>
<p>But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only because the description seems to make buying a bag of holding mandatory to keep this item safe. Still temp HP is LIFE, so it's tempting. I don't know.</p>Congrats on the win! You made it to the next round, where the stress, tears, recrimination and, hopefully, joy are to be found. Seriously? Enjoy the ride. And I second the affirmation of the flavor here.
But I have a question. If your PCs were going shopping, would this be worth 5K to them? As a DM, I evaluate things based on flavor and cool, but as a player, I evaluate things based on mechanics. And I'm not convinced that I'd spend 5K on 4-11 temp HP per day, if only because the description...roguerouge2010-01-20T21:00:38ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewJames Martinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#192010-01-20T15:58:15Z2010-01-20T15:58:15Z<p>I love the imagery of this item more than I love the item. It's a neat idea, but the prose is excellent. Good job and I look forward to your monster!</p>I love the imagery of this item more than I love the item. It's a neat idea, but the prose is excellent. Good job and I look forward to your monster!James Martin2010-01-20T15:58:15ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewRecklesshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#182010-01-20T15:16:53Z2010-01-20T15:16:53Z<p>Thematically, I like this item. Crystal Chalices are a dime a dozen, but you managed to put some uniqueness into this one and give it a solid Pathfinder theme.</p>
<p>You had plenty of words left, and I, for one, would have appreciated a mechanical explanation of the fragility (0 hardness, 1-2 hp, something, other than "very fragile." Same thing regarding the dew freezing as it forms. What would cause that? Cold environmental hazards? Area effect cold spells? Those are the kind of details I would look for to improve this item.</p>
<p>Also, I think this item gives the GM too much power to screw with its effects. Between the four hours,the fragility, and the freezing, it's an easy way for nasty GMs to wipe out a 5200 gp item.</p>Thematically, I like this item. Crystal Chalices are a dime a dozen, but you managed to put some uniqueness into this one and give it a solid Pathfinder theme.
You had plenty of words left, and I, for one, would have appreciated a mechanical explanation of the fragility (0 hardness, 1-2 hp, something, other than "very fragile." Same thing regarding the dew freezing as it forms. What would cause that? Cold environmental hazards? Area effect cold spells? Those are the kind of details I would...Reckless2010-01-20T15:16:53ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#172010-01-20T04:45:09Z2010-01-20T04:45:09Z<p>For those worried that this item is fragile and easily broken, why not put this in a handy haversack/bag of holding, or even just a protected carrying case. I've done a lot of field work with delicate instruments, and a proper carrying case is how you avoid breaking your delicate gear.</p>For those worried that this item is fragile and easily broken, why not put this in a handy haversack/bag of holding, or even just a protected carrying case. I've done a lot of field work with delicate instruments, and a proper carrying case is how you avoid breaking your delicate gear.Caedwyr2010-01-20T04:45:09ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewAndrew Blackhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#162010-01-20T02:41:40Z2010-01-20T02:41:40Z<p>Great inovation on such a simple idea. Good luck on the next round.</p>Great inovation on such a simple idea. Good luck on the next round.Andrew Black2010-01-20T02:41:40ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewAlex Shidelerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#152010-01-20T02:23:00Z2010-01-20T02:23:00Z<p>Thank you all for your generous feedback and comments.
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My family is so happy! This has made my day... no, my year!
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Again, thank you! :)</p>Thank you all for your generous feedback and comments.
My family is so happy! This has made my day... no, my year!
Again, thank you! :)Alex Shideler2010-01-20T02:23:00ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewJoel Flankhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#142010-01-20T01:30:52Z2010-01-20T01:29:46Z<p>Great job making the top 32! I like the twisting a existing spell around via the magic item, and great use of imagery. I have to agree with Neil about the use of virtue or aid though. It's fine for a magic item to have alternate requirements, but generally, that's done with spells from different class lists - allowing spells from the same spell list as alternates when they're different levels just makes it easier for a lower level crafter to create the item by using the zero level option. With the craft check to create your magic item, I'd make sure you keep your requiremenent to require a caster of a certain level to get it easily, while lower level crafters will need to take the +5 to the DC to craft.</p>
<p>I was a little confused by the mention of that it won't work if broken, but that it can be fixed with a mending spell. There's already rules in the game that cover breaking and repairing magic items, and this doesn't really seem different from those rules. Also, by tying it's activation to the dawn, what happens if it's on another plane and there is no dawn, does the item not work?</p>Great job making the top 32! I like the twisting a existing spell around via the magic item, and great use of imagery. I have to agree with Neil about the use of virtue or aid though. It's fine for a magic item to have alternate requirements, but generally, that's done with spells from different class lists - allowing spells from the same spell list as alternates when they're different levels just makes it easier for a lower level crafter to create the item by using the zero level option....Joel Flank2010-01-20T01:29:46ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewCharles Evans 25https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#132010-01-20T01:18:01Z2010-01-20T01:17:41Z<p>How much liquid collects? Is this enough to be significant to someone in a desert with no other water supply???
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This one reads to me exactly like an item from an item book. A well written item, but...
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However, congratulations on making the top 32.</p>How much liquid collects? Is this enough to be significant to someone in a desert with no other water supply???
This one reads to me exactly like an item from an item book. A well written item, but...
However, congratulations on making the top 32.Charles Evans 252010-01-20T01:17:41ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewDennis Bakerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#122011-08-01T20:25:43Z2010-01-20T00:40:01Z<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Congratulations! </p>
<p>The imageryof this item is really evocative item and gives it a rich flavor that ties in quite well with Sarenrae (or any sun god actually). The mechanics of the item are a little disappointing and I expected a little more after the really rich description.</p>
<p>Again, congratulations and I look forward to seeing your entries in the coming rounds!</p>Alex,
Congratulations!
The imageryof this item is really evocative item and gives it a rich flavor that ties in quite well with Sarenrae (or any sun god actually). The mechanics of the item are a little disappointing and I expected a little more after the really rich description.
Again, congratulations and I look forward to seeing your entries in the coming rounds!Dennis Baker2010-01-20T00:40:01ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower Dewzylphryxhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#112010-01-20T00:06:27Z2010-01-20T00:06:27Z<p>I like the concept and the flavor of the item is very nice, but I can't see my character hauling this item around on an adventure. The fragility of the item is the biggest drawback in my eyes. A <i>mending</i> spell would need to be a constant must to keep this item intact during the course of a campaign.</p>I like the concept and the flavor of the item is very nice, but I can't see my character hauling this item around on an adventure. The fragility of the item is the biggest drawback in my eyes. A mending spell would need to be a constant must to keep this item intact during the course of a campaign.zylphryx2010-01-20T00:06:27ZRe: Forums: Open Call: Design a wondrous item: Crystal Chalice of Dawnflower DewNicholas Heroldhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k9yh?Crystal-Chalice-of-Dawnflower-Dew#102010-01-19T23:56:16Z2010-01-19T23:56:16Z<p>Eh. The flavor is nice, but it is just aid in a can. I agree that the daily boon can easily become mundane in some games, but I also agree that that's just how PC psychology works. With your prose talent, though, I do look forward to your monster description.</p>Eh. The flavor is nice, but it is just aid in a can. I agree that the daily boon can easily become mundane in some games, but I also agree that that's just how PC psychology works. With your prose talent, though, I do look forward to your monster description.Nicholas Herold2010-01-19T23:56:16Z