Now that the Alchemist and Inquisitor classes are available for open playtest, they are legal for play in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. However, there are a few adjustments and clarifications that need to spelled out for their use in Pathfinder Society.
Alchemist
*Giant wasp poison
*Large scorpion venom
*Medium spider venom
*Shadow essence
*Small centipede poison
Inquisitor
So since there seems to be no such thing as an "ex-alchemist", as long as a character has at least one level in alchemist, those poisons will always be available for purchase in PFS? Or would the character need at least two levels in alchemist in order to have the Poison Use ability before poisons can be bought?
You need to have the poison use ability in order to be able to buy and create poisons (for the sake of organized play). This means you'll need at least 2 levels of alchemist to achieve this.
Great question!
One dose.
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The alchemist class description notes that alchemists use material components in making their extracts, but such components are "comparable to the valueless components of most spells." I understand that an "alchemist's pouch," similar to a spell component pouch, is supposed to be included in the APG when it comes out, but in the meantime, do alchemists need to purchase a "spell" component pouch for Pathfinder Society play?
Updated first post to note how to handle Brew Potion.
Updated first post to note how to handle Brew Potion.
I know this will sound hopelessly nitpicky, but I don't suppose you could throw an "even if they do not meet the prerequisites" after "bonus feat", could you?
That's already assumed when you use the word "bonus" before "feat." :-)
They just get it.
Bam I'm jumping on this one because I'm playing an Abyssal Sorcerer. Is this true for the Sorcerer feats (Augmented Summoning) as well, someone can point me in the right direction otherwise.That's already assumed when you use the word "bonus" before "feat." :-)
They just get it.
No such luck: "At 7th level, and every six levels thereafter, a sorcerer receives one bonus feat, chosen from a list specific to each bloodline. The sorcerer must meet the prerequisites for these bonus feats."
In fact, in the Core Rulebook, Jason was very, very clear about whether you needed to qualify for a given bonus feat or not. He deserves extra credit for clarifying the Rogue's "Feat" ability: it used to say "A rogue may gain a bonus feat in place of a special ability" in 3.5 and now it says "A rogue may gain any feat that she qualifies for in place of a rogue talent". Kudos, Jason!
And now Josh is backsliding... Tsk, tsk.
I'm evil that way. Plus, it's better than front-sliding.
Cauldron is simply not allowed.
They are not considered casters, no.
I have a random question about the Alchemist as I'm about to play 1 in a new game we're starting. If I take the Fast Bombs discovery at 8th level can I throw bombs and something else interchangeably as part of a full-attack? For instance say I use Rapid Shot and have this discovery could I throw 1 bomb and 2 daggers (with the -2 on attack rolls of course)? Or is it limited to strictly bombs? I guess that also spawns the question can I use Rapid Shot in addition to Fast Bombs?
You'll want to ask that question in this forum since that doesn't specifically relate to Pathfinder Society.
I actually did here:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules/alchemistsAndOrganizedPlay
But I wasn't sure if it should be asked here or not and you answered that.
I've searched through the Society Players Guide and found nothing for this so figured I should ask here. When and how many Craft (Alchemy) rolls is an Alchemist allowed to make each session to craft Alchemical Items?
Since the cost of an Alchemical item would be 1/3 the cost if you made your craft roll it seems like it would be best to make as many as you could though I can't seem to find anything like make these rolls before or after a session as each item takes on average 3-7 days for a low level alchemist.
Craft skills and feats are not allowed in PFS play.
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I've searched through the Society Players Guide and found nothing for this so figured I should ask here. When and how many Craft (Alchemy) rolls is an Alchemist allowed to make each session to craft Alchemical Items?
Since the cost of an Alchemical item would be 1/3 the cost if you made your craft roll it seems like it would be best to make as many as you could though I can't seem to find anything like make these rolls before or after a session as each item takes on average 3-7 days for a low level alchemist.
One check between sessions makes it questionable at lower levels, you would through 2-3 sessions before you finished your first item.
This has me scratching my chin right now as I'm looking at an alchemist character. I guess if I just stick to smokesticks I have a 60% chance of having one for the next session. I guess that increases pretty quickly though by 3rd level you are making DC15 items 75% of the time.
Another, related question is whether the alchemy skill check is exclusive of the profession/ craft check between levels.
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First bullet point of the thread: Alchemists are an exception. They, in fact, can use Craft (Alchemy) to create alchemical items for personal use only.
Also, to answer the actual question, Josh has spoken on this point. You may only make one such item at a time, and you're beholden to any time constraints of the scenario itself, but for crafting 'between' sessions there's no limit but your GM's patience.
Josh,
I don't suppose you could confirm this bit? Essentially alchemists can make as many items as they would like between sessions.
As long as they can afford the raw materials. Essentially, it's a price break with a (low) chance of getting nothing for the discounted price.
What he said.
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So I'm crafting a bunch of acid flasks for my alchemist and the GM says "can you sell those"?
Which brings up an interesting curiosity. Crafting alchemy is at 1/3 cost and you can sell items at 1/2 price earning a nice little profit with each sale, potentially earning a lot more gold than your typical day job roll allows.
I'm not planning on having my character open up an alchemists shop but it seems like something some folks will try and work so I thought I would put it out there.
So I'm crafting a bunch of acid flasks for my alchemist and the GM says "can you sell those"?
Which brings up an interesting curiosity. Crafting alchemy is at 1/3 cost and you can sell items at 1/2 price earning a nice little profit with each sale, potentially earning a lot more gold than your typical day job roll allows.
I'm not planning on having my character open up an alchemists shop but it seems like something some folks will try and work so I thought I would put it out there.
It sounds like a situation similar to selling items granted for free to PCs from their faction. Since you can't sell the wand of CLW your faction gives you, you shouldn't be able to sell something you crafted. As it is, alchemists get the ability to craft, which is unique in PFS, so pushing it to try to get extra character wealth seems like too much.
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It sounds like a situation similar to selling items granted for free to PCs from their faction. Since you can't sell the wand of CLW your faction gives you, you shouldn't be able to sell something you crafted. As it is, alchemists get the ability to craft, which is unique in PFS, so pushing it to try to get extra character wealth seems like too much.So I'm crafting a bunch of acid flasks for my alchemist and the GM says "can you sell those"?
Which brings up an interesting curiosity. Crafting alchemy is at 1/3 cost and you can sell items at 1/2 price earning a nice little profit with each sale, potentially earning a lot more gold than your typical day job roll allows.
I'm not planning on having my character open up an alchemists shop but it seems like something some folks will try and work so I thought I would put it out there.
Totally agree and I won't be selling anything I craft. It just strikes me as the kind of thing someone might feel is a clever way to get their character some extra wealth.
Alchemists cannot sell the items they craft.
This will be noted in 2.3.
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Question about the Advanced classes, 3PP materials and PfS. If there are new spells brought about from some of the extra materials (Infernal Healing in particular) that were not mentioned in the APG, is there rulings on whether or not they can be added to an Alchemist's formulae list. Infernal Healing is sort of equivalent to Cure Light Wounds (a lvl 1 formulae) as well as fits the flavor of an extract (imbibing a solution containing part demon's blood).
I just wanted to know whether this spell would be something that could be added to my formulae list (and also in essence to my available wand list) or not. Also, I can't think of any other in particular atm, but what kind of ruling would other spells from 3PP fall under for Organized Play in PfS?
No material from 3PP is allowed in PFS at all. If it is not published by Paizo, then there is no chance it will be made legal for use.
No material from 3PP is allowed in PFS at all. If it is not published by Paizo, then there is no chance it will be made legal for use.
I think he meant to say "non-core books" rather than "3PP" (Infernal Healing is in a book Paizo published, not some third-party publisher).
At any rate, we'll see what the APG has to say about the alchemist's formula list when it comes out.
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Question about the Advanced classes, 3PP materials and PfS. If there are new spells brought about from some of the extra materials (Infernal Healing in particular) that were not mentioned in the APG, is there rulings on whether or not they can be added to an Alchemist's formulae list. Infernal Healing is sort of equivalent to Cure Light Wounds (a lvl 1 formulae) as well as fits the flavor of an extract (imbibing a solution containing part demon's blood).
I just wanted to know whether this spell would be something that could be added to my formulae list (and also in essence to my available wand list) or not. Also, I can't think of any other in particular atm, but what kind of ruling would other spells from 3PP fall under for Organized Play in PfS?
The spell lists are going to be what's specifically in the book. One of the downsides of organized play is lack of flexibility.
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Can they use the Craft skill for the session's job money roll?Yes, but note the day job only include the following:
Skill Ranks + Ability Score modifier + any applicable feat or trait bonusesYou may not use any of your class bonuses to alchemy.
hmmmm.... Item Bonuses are not allowed?... I will have to look that up.
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hmmmm.... Item Bonuses are not allowed?... I will have to look that up.
Yup. It's in the guide, and here in this thread Josh re-iterates it (check one post down from the post I've liked to). You may not add in racial bonuses, class bonuses, bard-song bonuses, or any bonus classified as morale, situational, competence, etc. In fact, the way it's written, I'm not even sure you can add in your three point bonus for it being a class skill.
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In fact, the way it's written, I'm not even sure you can add in your three point bonus for it being a class skill.
I personally read it that way as well. The +3 for a class skill bonus is a misc. modifier to the skill check, not actually a skill rank and it's not from a feat or trait.
I personally think it helps balance the playing field for the roll, since not all classes have the craft/profession/perform as class skills. This would also be in line with the removing of racial and class abilities to affect the roll IMHO.
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In fact, the way it's written, I'm not even sure you can add in your three point bonus for it being a class skill.
The way I read it in the Core the +3 is 'bonus ranks' in that skill and the way it's worded in the Guide should fall under 'skill ranks'.
However, over all I'm not sure making such a strange grey area for this tiny pittance of gold means much even over the life of the character. Even if you got +150 gp for each and every Chronicle 150x33 is only 4950 which hardly covers the cost of a +1 weapon. To put it another way that works out to 3 1st level potions or 6 1st level scrolls a session. A small boon up to level 3 probably, but nothing seriously game changing. After that, probably no worth tracking on your Chronicle they'd be so nominally useful.
Unless there's some other wealth curve math I'm missing.
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In fact, the way it's written, I'm not even sure you can add in your three point bonus for it being a class skill.
The way I read it in the Core the +3 is 'bonus ranks' in that skill and the way it's worded in the Guide should fall under 'skill ranks'.
Zizazat, whether the +3 bonus is allowed for Day Job rolls or not, those are not ranks in any sense of the word. They don't qualify a character for prestige classes that require a certain number of ranks in a skill, for example.