Can you do a non-TWF Rogue?


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snobi wrote:

Some key aspects of the attacking thief I play:

Race:
Greater Invisibility
Fine-size
Perfect flight
High DEX

Feats:
Great Flyby Attack (SS)
Dead Eye (Dr 304)

My attack bonus and damage end up being pretty decent.

though you can not actually flank most opponents since you do not threaten any squares... pixies (a guess)generally arent a common option that DM's allow to play either.


Remco Sommeling wrote:
snobi wrote:

Some key aspects of the attacking thief I play:

Race:
Greater Invisibility
Fine-size
Perfect flight
High DEX

Feats:
Great Flyby Attack (SS)
Dead Eye (Dr 304)

My attack bonus and damage end up being pretty decent.

though you can not actually flank most opponents since you do not threaten any squares... pixies (a guess)generally arent a common option that DM's allow to play either.

Just curious Remco, why do you have issues with Pixies? I haven't tried them with the Pathfinder CR based LA replacement option to see if it pans out (before somebody jumps me I know it wasn't designed to be perfect, but it is something worth testing) But their Level Adjustment in 3.5 very much made up for their abilities. Very much so.

They were a cool option, but honestly, all the lost HP at lower levels, and lost class features at higher levels really didn't give all that much. Infact, Pixies seemed one of the few LA races that did hold up decently, at least when played as a skillmonkey.


I don't have an issue with pixies as such, but I think many DM's would disallow it.

It brings some complications to the game, roleplaying, flight, unusual size, invisibility. this can make it hard to play through some premade adventures, having the pixy rogue always out on his own scouting, flying and causing general mischief, might cause other players to get bored if it takes up much time.

Much of this depends on cmapaign level ofcourse, it isnt much of an issue at all at higher levels.


Remco Sommeling wrote:

I don't have an issue with pixies as such, but I think many DM's would disallow it.

It brings some complications to the game, roleplaying, flight, unusual size, invisibility. this can make it hard to play through some premade adventures, having the pixy rogue always out on his own scouting, flying and causing general mischief, might cause other players to get bored if it takes up much time.

Much of this depends on cmapaign level ofcourse, it isnt much of an issue at all at higher levels.

Ah, I see what you mean. Personally I just see that as the charm of the race, especially the roleplaying opportunities. There are going to be many interesting situations you get to play out because your a pixie (including dealing with the 'fairie' jokes around the table lmao)

Also, it's not at all uncommon for rogues or rangers in my games to scout ahead on their own. Either they gain glory and a little extra treasure, or they die, or they have to cry for help and endure the humiliation of the party saving his butt.

(then again, I've never been afraid of the party splitting up or roleplaying separately, so eh, I am an oddball in that respect)

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Remco Sommeling wrote:


though you can not actually flank most opponents since you do not threaten any squares...

I never worry about flanking...it's just a drive-by shooting.

Remco Sommeling wrote:


pixies (a guess)generally arent a common option that DM's allow to play either.

Yeah, thankfully my GM is of the philosophy "let them play what they want to play".

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