consecrate and desecrate both say that they "counter and dispel" each other. I am assuming that the dispel effect mentioned will require a dispel check/caster level check to be successful. It does not specifically state that in the spell description and my players maintain that no check is required.
consecrate and desecrate both say that they "counter and dispel" each other. I am assuming that the dispel effect mentioned will require a dispel check/caster level check to be successful. It does not specifically state that in the spell description and my players maintain that no check is required.
As I interpret it, no dispel check is required.
Normally, counter spells do not need a level check of any sort. (exception: using Dispel Magic does.) A 5th-level wizard can counter a 20th-level caster's fireball by using the same spell.
Under stacking of magical effects:
Spells with Opposite Effects: Spells with opposite effects apply normally, with all bonuses, penalties, or changes accruing in the order that they apply. Some spells negate or counter each other. This is a special effect that is noted in a spell's description.
So, you can also look at as both effects are present, they merely negate each other, but it certainly is easier to just have them negate each other and be done with it.
consecrate and desecrate both say that they "counter and dispel" each other. I am assuming that the dispel effect mentioned will require a dispel check/caster level check to be successful. It does not specifically state that in the spell description and my players maintain that no check is required.As I interpret it, no dispel check is required.
Normally, counter spells do not need a level check of any sort. (exception: using Dispel Magic does.) A 5th-level wizard can counter a 20th-level caster's fireball by using the same spell.
Under stacking of magical effects:
Spells with Opposite Effects: Spells with opposite effects apply normally, with all bonuses, penalties, or changes accruing in the order that they apply. Some spells negate or counter each other. This is a special effect that is noted in a spell's description.So, you can also look at as both effects are present, they merely negate each other, but it certainly is easier to just have them negate each other and be done with it.
I understand that a counter-spell requires no level check, but what about dispelling an already cast desecrate with a consecrate? thx for your reply
I understand that a counter-spell requires no level check, but what about dispelling an already cast desecrate with a consecrate? thx for your reply
Still none. We aren't talking about dispelling in the sense of using dispel magic but rather casting another spell with opposite effects.
Why would an already cast desecrate cause the casting of consecrate to fail? It shouldn't. Now just stack the effects. Since they are essentially opposite, why go through the trouble of keeping both effects.