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Wolf Munroe wrote:
joela wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
The other one replied "Well what do you expect from an rpg based on Magic the Gathering."
That's the experience I had when I first learned the current edition. I remember reading Chris Pramas of Green Ronin making the comparison but had yet to learn Magic: The Gathering. Then I played my first M:tG game and thought, "wow, that's just like Magic."
I have no idea what you just said.

4e bears at least a passing resemblance to MtG according to some ...


You mean kids don't know things that you're only likely to pick up if you lived through the time when they were common knowledge or have taken a special interest in them? Adults actually have a head start of a decade or more in accumulating knowledge about the world too?

I never would have figured. Damn those kids. Why, I bet they don't even know how many rods there are in a chain. How many Sligoi to a Daric? Forget it! I tell you, when we're gone those kids are in deep crap. They'd better get their acts together. Kids these days, pfft!


David Fryer wrote:
Well, other than the state of denial...:) Where in Utah do you live?

Oh, I'm just down in Utah Valley.

Scarab Sages

Samnell wrote:

You mean kids don't know things that you're only likely to pick up if you lived through the time when they were common knowledge or have taken a special interest in them? Adults actually have a head start of a decade or more in accumulating knowledge about the world too?

I never would have figured. Damn those kids. Why, I bet they don't even know how many rods there are in a chain. How many Sligoi to a Daric? Forget it! I tell you, when we're gone those kids are in deep crap. They'd better get their acts together. Kids these days, pfft!

I'm only 23 and started playing D&D 3 and a half years ago.

BEFORE I played D&D, I knew what Magic: the Gathering was, and I knew then that D&D originated atleast the 80s or earlier. (like I said, I didn't play)

So if I knew, someone who is into rpg gaming SHOULD know what D&D is.

By the way, I have no idea what a sligoi or a daric is. I will now go and ask.

arg...teenagers these days... and when I was in high school...and before then... Teenagers, in general, are stupid, uneducated, ignorant, and apathetic. But you'd think that those into rpgs would be above the curve. guess not anymore.

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Celestial Healer wrote:


(FYI - I was never a Whitney Houston fan, but one didn't have to be to hear that song EVERYWHERE. I just don't want anyont to - you know - get the wrong idea.)

AND IIIII-EEEEE-IIII-EEEEE-IIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOO-OOO-OOOO-OOOO

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Turin the Mad wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
joela wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
The other one replied "Well what do you expect from an rpg based on Magic the Gathering."
That's the experience I had when I first learned the current edition. I remember reading Chris Pramas of Green Ronin making the comparison but had yet to learn Magic: The Gathering. Then I played my first M:tG game and thought, "wow, that's just like Magic."
I have no idea what you just said.
4e bears at least a passing resemblance to MtG according to some ...

Is that the new version of 4e is just like WoW?

I hear that 3.5 is just like doing your taxes. Lots of numbers and cross-references!


Samnell wrote:

You mean kids don't know things that you're only likely to pick up if you lived through the time when they were common knowledge or have taken a special interest in them? Adults actually have a head start of a decade or more in accumulating knowledge about the world too?

I get your point, but going back to my example: I only had maybe five or six years on the girls I overheard talking. The Beatles were well before my time, but I knew enough to know that 1) The Beatles didn't copy a Tiffany song 2) Even if the song was originally Tiffany's they couldn't copy it because they weren't together and John Lennon was dead and 3) It wouldn't happen anyway because Tiffany was a no-talent, flash-in-the-pan hack.

There's a difference between a lack of knowledge due to an age gap, and a lack of knowledge due simply to a dearth of general knowledge.


Alan-Michael Havens wrote:
Hey, we aren't all bad...

New person! Hi! Welcome to the boards. Have some cookies. :) *shares virtual cookies*

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WelbyBumpus wrote:
David Fryer wrote:

It reminds me of the story I heard from a fellow geography teacher. She was teaching about national parks and said "Did you know that Utah hs five national parks It's the most in any one state." One of her studets responded "Well which state is Utah in?"

I can only name four of the five off the top of my head.

Did you forget Capitol Reef? Everyone forgets Capitol Reef, and it's one of my favorites.

Actually I did forget Capital Reef. Which is weird because the exit off of I-70 that you take to get from Capital Reef is the same one as you take to get to my parent's house, just in the opposite direction.


Frostflame wrote:


Who saids you have it better than your parents...Let me ask you how well would you cope if your cell phone just vanished...

Ah the cell phone. Looking forward to 5 weeks hiking across Spain WITHOUT it!

Will feel medieval...

Mark

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Abbasax wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Well, other than the state of denial...:) Where in Utah do you live?
Oh, I'm just down in Utah Valley.

Drat. I need more players, but I'm willing to bet you don't want to drive to Cedar City every saturday.


Shadowborn wrote:

I get your point, but going back to my example: I only had maybe five or six years on the girls I overheard talking. The Beatles were well before my time, but I knew enough to know that 1) The Beatles didn't copy a Tiffany song 2) Even if the song was originally Tiffany's they couldn't copy it because they weren't together and John Lennon was dead and 3) It wouldn't happen anyway because Tiffany was a no-talent, flash-in-the-pan hack.

There's a difference between a lack of knowledge due to an age gap, and a lack of knowledge due simply to a dearth of general knowledge.

A death of general knowledge is also impacted by the age gap. The two can't really be separated. Whether you pick something up at twelve or eighteen, especially if it's not in school curricula, is more or less random. The longer you've been around the more chances you have to run into someone who mentions it in conversation, see it on TV, or whatever.

I don't think I knew who John Lennon was until I was fifteen or sixteen and didn't have a particularly good idea until I was eighteen or nineteen. (Also at twenty-eight I still don't particularly care.) It's not at all surprising to me that a teenager didn't know any of the things on your list. It's just not a cause for any special concern or exasperation. This kind of generational ignorance is normal. You and I didn't know all the things our parents assumed were general knowledge when we were teenagers either. We'll never pick up every last one.

So all that's really being observed here is ignorant people saying things in ignorance. Isn't that more or less the normal order of the universe for people of all ages? Don't blame the kids for being normal people.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

He's referring to 4e. Combat plays like a card game. That's actually a good thing in my opinion. Of course, I didn't "get" the game until I played an avenger. Now you're playing with power, wuxia style!

By the way, I am an omni-gamer. It's no use trying to convince me that one game is "bad" and another is "good", so all you flamers just back away slowly.

Wolf Munroe wrote:
joela wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
The other one replied "Well what do you expect from an rpg based on Magic the Gathering."
That's the experience I had when I first learned the current edition. I remember reading Chris Pramas of Green Ronin making the comparison but had yet to learn Magic: The Gathering. Then I played my first M:tG game and thought, "wow, that's just like Magic."
I have no idea what you just said.

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Sebastian wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:


(FYI - I was never a Whitney Houston fan, but one didn't have to be to hear that song EVERYWHERE. I just don't want anyont to - you know - get the wrong idea.)
AND IIIII-EEEEE-IIII-EEEEE-IIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOO-OOO-OOOO-OOOO

My ears!


Mucus von Spidtle wrote:
Frostflame wrote:


Who saids you have it better than your parents...Let me ask you how well would you cope if your cell phone just vanished...

Ah the cell phone. Looking forward to 5 weeks hiking across Spain WITHOUT it!

Will feel medieval...

Mark

[unabashed threadjack]

AH! Spain...where are you hiking, MvS?


Sebastian wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I could have reached through the interweb andstrangled them both right then and there, I would be posting this from prison instead of my kitchen.
I just want you to know that if you ever discover, invent, or otherwise obtain access to such interweb strangling technology, I would pay handsomely for it.

It is called Black-Ice. You can buy it from Neo, just bring your white rabbit.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I could have reached through the interweb andstrangled them both right then and there, I would be posting this from prison instead of my kitchen.
I just want you to know that if you ever discover, invent, or otherwise obtain access to such interweb strangling technology, I would pay handsomely for it.

And I, like Rorschach, will taunt you until you reach through my screen and tie your thumbs together!!!!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Silver Crusade

Sebastian wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:


(FYI - I was never a Whitney Houston fan, but one didn't have to be to hear that song EVERYWHERE. I just don't want anyont to - you know - get the wrong idea.)
AND IIIII-EEEEE-IIII-EEEEE-IIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOO-OOO-OOOO-OOOO

You'll have to sing it for me sometime.

By the way, after I made that post the song got stuck in my head for about an hour.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

You've all got me thinking of what was and what now is. . .

My mother used to have a piece of paper taped to the refrigerator that said: if you were born before 1945 than you have witnessed. . . (and it went on to list a slew of things that came into existence during their lives.

I was trying to think of some of the things that have come into existence since the 70s. Cell phones didn't exist when I was born--hell, the rotary phone was just getting phased out. Televisions didn't have remote controls and, when they did come into existence, they had ten-foot long cords that connected them to the tvs. VCRs weren't around then. Cars didn't have computers in them. The first PCs (apple //e in my case) had less memory than most digital watches now have. The digital watch. The most gears bikes had was ten--the mountain bike did not exist. BBSs were all the rage in the 80s--back when you had to dial a telephone and connect via a 300 baud modem (what's a baud you say?). If you had a dot-matrix printer with that perforated paper, you were doin' alright.

Cheech and Chong were considered outlandish comics.

People went to arcades where, sadly, pinball machines were horribly outnumbered by them new fangled computer-in-box-consoles. Basketball players played 60 minute games and wore incredibly short shorts.

schools required students to take four english, four math, and four pe classes through the course of high school. We were taught "things to know" not necessarily because there was local/state/national test coming at the end of the quarter.

Hmmm, what else have I forgotten?


Sebastian wrote:
I just want you to know that if you ever discover, invent, or otherwise obtain access to such interweb strangling technology, I would pay handsomely for it.

Your bodycount of victims would dwarf most Hollywood action and cop films.

And then I would form a cult around you.


Meh...it's all been done...

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

I should point out that my coworkers who don't know Yorik are younger and older than I.

I'm always amazed at the lack of knowlege of people in general, as opposed to the naivitae I had in my youth.

Slightly OT

Spoiler:
I worked at a grocery store in the early 90's, late shift. The security guard was always walking the women out. I thought that was very gentlemanly of him. I asked one day "Why don't you ever walk me out?"

He replied "Well the odds of you getting raped in the parking lot are pretty low, Matt."

Oh for the days when I was a naive farmboy who knew more about classic lit than you city folk. :P


Shadowborn wrote:

It's not just kids today. Nineteen years ago I was working in Tower Records. I overheard two teenagers talking in one of the aisles:

Teen 1: "I can't believe the Beatles ripped off one of Tiffany's songs."

Teen 2: "I know, it's just sad..."

Me (in my head): "You have no idea how wrong what you just said is...on so many levels."

David, my guess is that those teens grew up and had kids of their own, who were the ones you overheard talking on DDO.

I say DDO and didn't jump straight to D&D online. That's a good sign.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Sebastian wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:


(FYI - I was never a Whitney Houston fan, but one didn't have to be to hear that song EVERYWHERE. I just don't want anyont to - you know - get the wrong idea.)
AND IIIII-EEEEE-IIII-EEEEE-IIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOO-OOO-OOOO-OOOO

Right backatcha, bro. ;)

Liberty's Edge

joela wrote:
Actually, that makes sense if the younger generation has grown up knowing Magic:The Gathering only. It's just like most people thinking the current Jaguar is basing its front fascia on the old Ford Taurus when in fact the "curvy" Taurus is based on the original Jaguar.

Considering how many Ford parts are going into Jaguars these days, it might just be the fascia from the Taurus...

Which is kind of ironic, I suppose, considering how many '80s XJ-6s are sporting Chevy 350 engines...


Seeing these wistful and insightful posts on music, childhood, the ever increasing appeal of WOW and the decrease of interest in pen and paper RPGs by the younger crowds... IT all makes me want to drink... Lots of sweet tea vodka and lemonades... Chased with some Labatt's. Horrible!!

And who can ever forget Iron Maiden's classic- "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son!?" Especially the chorus!!

Actually, I love their song 'Phantom of the Opera.'


I've never heard Iron Maiden. I've seen their album covers but I can honestly say I have no idea what they actually sound like. When I think of Iron Maiden, the only association I have is how their name is written on some of the albums. When were they big?

Yes, I'm sure that makes me a pariah in some circles.

I have less than 1,000 songs on my computer and I've been "building" my collection since 1997.

I guess music just really isn't that big of a deal to me.

I'm 30 and while I don't know Iron Maiden, I do know who The Beatles (and John Lennon) are because I grew up with a record player in the house and my dad had Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. After listening to his record a few times, I bought it on CD for my own collection when I was in high school in the 90s.

When I was in 4th grade I learned from my mother that Tiffany was doing a cover of a Beatles song. I do prefer the Tiffany version more because I like hearing a woman sing it.

When I was in junior high I learned from my dad that the Ugly Kid Joe version of Cat's in the Cradle was a cover of a Harry Chapin song. I've heard both versions and they're very similar but I may like the Ugly Kid Joe version a little more, just for the "edgier" guitar.

Somebody covered Billy Jean a few years ago but I can't remember who it was.

I haven't played 4e D&D so I guess I wasn't following what he was saying about it having a comparison to Magic: The Gathering. I liked the D&D Miniatures Game Second Edition rules that they released around the same time as 4e came out but the miniatures game got discontinued with the new visible miniatures sets. I can read 4e monster stats on my new miniatures thanks to the miniatures game rulebook. I played the second edition minis game a couple times, and I get the impression the 4e mechanics are very similar, but that's not what I'm personally after in my RPG gaming. (Wouldn't mind if they just merged the miniatures game with straight 4e stats though and put points on the cards for forming warbands.)

Anyway, I think I'm meandering.

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An actual conversion of the Magic the Gathering setting to a D&D setting could rock the house. It's a richly detailed setting and has a lot of really, really cool stuff.

I hate the game with a fiery passion, but the setting could make a fantastic D&D setting...

With a bit of sideways squinting, you could even look at the 'roles' popular with some classification schemes as being related to the colors of magic. Red is a very 'blastery' or nuker or artillery role. Blue is a 'denial' sort of role, focused on counter-spelling and nullifying and debuffing foes. White is more about buffing and healing. It's not a perfect correlation, but I think it could easily be worked up, particularly for 4E, with the White, Blue, Red, Black and Green 'summoners' each having summons and powers relevant to a specific role, more or less.

While I never cared for the card game, I enjoyed reading the magazine (no really, I read the articles, I didn't even look at the pictures, mom, I swear!) for it's world design articles.

It's easy to talk smack about Magic the Gathering (or World of Warcraft), but these venues are bursting with creativity, and have captured the imagination of an entire generation of fantasy gamers. By streamlining and unifying the principles of 'D&D,' WotC has positioned themselves to reach that potential market by making the game into something that would be far easier to 'computer-ize' or make into a MMORPG, and if they succeed, it could be a license to print money.

I'll admit, their initial stumbles in internet-content rollout to date hasn't left me holding my breath for that kind of breakthrough success, but they still have room to make it big. I may not be in love with the changes to D&D, but the changes they've made seem very well suited to online play, which does appear to be the future of the fantasy gaming market.

Dark Archive

I agree that a D&D version of Magic's setting would be great. Sounds like a fun project for my spare time.


Samnell wrote:


So all that's really being observed here is ignorant people saying things in ignorance. Isn't that more or less the normal order of the universe for people of all ages? Don't blame the kids for being normal people.

You make very good points.

Samnell wrote:


I don't think I knew who John Lennon was until I was fifteen or sixteen and didn't have a particularly good idea until I was eighteen or nineteen. (Also at twenty-eight I still don't particularly care.)

But you are SO dead to me... ;)

Silver Crusade

David Fryer wrote:
I agree that a D&D version of Magic's setting would be great. Sounds like a fun project for my spare time.

Agreed. I always liked the lore and flavor of Magic, but to me after a few games it wound up feeling no different than a game of bridge or any other card game.

Do it up! I want a PC version of my white/blue control deck!


Wolf Munroe wrote:
I've never heard Iron Maiden. I've seen their album covers but I can honestly say I have no idea what they actually sound like. When I think of Iron Maiden, the only association I have is how their name is written on some of the albums. When were they big?

They were VERY big in the 80's, with a string of 5 or so excellent albums (because, despite their image to the contrary, they were disciplined songwriters who largely eschewed drugs and groupies in favor of works of literature). I like a lot of their stuff because for the better songs, in my head I can easily replace one guitar with a string section, and another guitar with a woodwind section, etc. Classical-style harmonizing in the composition, but heavy-metal rock music sound.


There are some trends that I think make the ignorance situation worse today than in generations before. Marketing has become so specialized in its targeting over the 20th-21st centuries, focusing on increasingly exacting segments of the population, that it's harder to see, be exposed to, or really interact with cross-segment information. There are so many choices in consumer goods and luxuries (including cable TV stations, radio stations, musical genres, clothing styles, etc) that can be promoted directly to specific market segments that nobody really has to leave their own little coccoons of comfort. It's no wonder that kids today (and Gen Xers, Baby Boomers, etc) may not have the same breadth of tastes and cultural literacy as their predecessors. They're caught in a feedback loop of stuff marketed to them based on stuff they already like and know.

That said, because of the readily accessed information in today's online media, someone who is curious probably has a better chance of being able to expand that cultural literacy on their own than previous generations. But that's an individual's effort now whereas more of it was broadly transmited before.


Set wrote:

An actual conversion of the Magic the Gathering setting to a D&D setting could rock the house. It's a richly detailed setting and has a lot of really, really cool stuff.

I hate the game with a fiery passion, but the setting could make a fantastic D&D setting...

With a bit of sideways squinting, you could even look at the 'roles' popular with some classification schemes as being related to the colors of magic. Red is a very 'blastery' or nuker or artillery role. Blue is a 'denial' sort of role, focused on counter-spelling and nullifying and debuffing foes. White is more about buffing and healing. It's not a perfect correlation, but I think it could easily be worked up, particularly for 4E, with the White, Blue, Red, Black and Green 'summoners' each having summons and powers relevant to a specific role, more or less.

While I never cared for the card game, I enjoyed reading the magazine (no really, I read the articles, I didn't even look at the pictures, mom, I swear!) for it's world design articles.

It's easy to talk smack about Magic the Gathering (or World of Warcraft), but these venues are bursting with creativity, and have captured the imagination of an entire generation of fantasy gamers. By streamlining and unifying the principles of 'D&D,' WotC has positioned themselves to reach that potential market by making the game into something that would be far easier to 'computer-ize' or make into a MMORPG, and if they succeed, it could be a license to print money.

I'll admit, their initial stumbles in internet-content rollout to date hasn't left me holding my breath for that kind of breakthrough success, but they still have room to make it big. I may not be in love with the changes to D&D, but the changes they've made seem very well suited to online play, which does appear to be the future of the fantasy gaming market.

Set, you make some interesting points. I have played both WOW and DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online, the Turbine version), and I actually prefer DDO if I had a choice. This is for one reason and one reason only, and this is speaking from a personal experience; the respect and civility of players have towards one another was much greater on DDO than on WOW.

Despite the wonders of online play I'm continually disgusted with the behavior of people online with these MMORPGs. Now I know of a handful of people who happen to have a wonderful group of players they meet with to play online. I consider them to be extremely fortunate.

With pen and paper RPGs, you are forced to act as a team moreso than online RPGs. There is a level of social intimacy of a group of people sitting around a table, shooting the breeze and talking about stuff both gaming and nongaming related, that CANNOT be duplicated with an online RPG. Since a person is playing with people who are perhaps hundreds or thousands of miles away, what force is in play to make them be civil to everyone else. If you have players sitting right next to you, in person, in the flesh, I think that is more of a motivating factor for people to work as a team and hash things out than sitting on a computer and dealing with people on sucn a remote level.

Sigh... But this is just my opinion.

In short (too late!), I'm going to hit the drinky-drinks! :P


Bill Dunn wrote:

There are some trends that I think make the ignorance situation worse today than in generations before. Marketing has become so specialized in its targeting over the 20th-21st centuries, focusing on increasingly exacting segments of the population, that it's harder to see, be exposed to, or really interact with cross-segment information. There are so many choices in consumer goods and luxuries (including cable TV stations, radio stations, musical genres, clothing styles, etc) that can be promoted directly to specific market segments that nobody really has to leave their own little coccoons of comfort. It's no wonder that kids today (and Gen Xers, Baby Boomers, etc) may not have the same breadth of tastes and cultural literacy as their predecessors. They're caught in a feedback loop of stuff marketed to them based on stuff they already like and know.

That said, because of the readily accessed information in today's online media, someone who is curious probably has a better chance of being able to expand that cultural literacy on their own than previous generations. But that's an individual's effort now whereas more of it was broadly transmited before.

Your post filled in a piece of the puzzle that was missing for me. Thank you for changing my perceptions, and for giving me a very interesting idea to ponder.


David Fryer wrote:
Abbasax wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Well, other than the state of denial...:) Where in Utah do you live?
Oh, I'm just down in Utah Valley.
Drat. I need more players, but I'm willing to bet you don't want to drive to Cedar City every saturday.

Heh, yeah fun as that would probably be, I think I'd lose some sanity points for making that drive every weekend.

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Sanity is overrated. ;)


David Fryer wrote:
Sounds like a fun project for my spare time.

There is no such thing as "free time". Please report to your next workload immediately. ;-)

Stefan


Wolf Munroe wrote:

I've never heard Iron Maiden. I've seen their album covers but I can honestly say I have no idea what they actually sound like. When I think of Iron Maiden, the only association I have is how their name is written on some of the albums. When were they big?

Yes, I'm sure that makes me a pariah in some circles.

No problem with that. If you are interested, youtube is your friend:

Rime of the Ancient Mariner

Seventh Son (live) - just ignore the atrocious late 80ies outfits here...

Stefan

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I like Iron Maiden's album covers more than their music, which, I guess, makes them the metal version of Asia.

Bruce Dickenson's Tears of the Dragon is all kinds of awesome though. Wow, that video is messed up, 'though....

Liberty's Edge

joela wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
To be fair to the younger generation they didnt grow up with pen and paper like we did.
Exactly. There was an article about a kid who was given a Walkman in celebration of the product's 20th: you know, the kind that used a cassette. The kid, used to MP3, was baffled by it, finally saying he couldn't see how it held any decent amount of music.

F%%$, now I feel old. I'm only 22, and I still have (and use) a cassette player.

Liberty's Edge

Celestial Healer wrote:
Back to the subject at hand... For covers of songs, and such, if someone is too young to have heard the original, it shouldn't be a surprise they don't know it exists. If they are obstinate, or insist that their version is the original, however, they need a beatstick.

God, that pisses me off... As a musician, I listen to a lot of music, including a lot of covers (you have to know it before you can do it, and all that). Case in point: I know a f&#~load of people who think that "I Fought the Law" is either a Clash song or a Green Day song. These people get smacked by me. I have heard no less than seven versions of this song (in chronological order):

1. Sonny Curtis and the Crickets
2. The Bobby Fuller Four
3. Bob Marley and the Wailers
4. The Clash
5. The Teen Idles
6. Green Day
7. Bouncing Souls

Liberty's Edge

Frostflame wrote:
doppelganger wrote:


Why is this a problem? Is it really so bad that we have it better than our parents did?
Who saids you have it better than your parents...Let me ask you how well would you cope if your cell phone just vanished...

I don't know about you, but I'd cope fine. I don't have a cell phone.

Scarab Sages

About 12 or 13 years ago, I was sitting in a Hooters, at the bar, and talking to the bartender (late 20s) and the hostess (age 17). I mentioned John Wayne and the hostess asked who he was.

I nearly fell off my barstool.

True story - swear to God!

Sometimes, I hate younger people.


Goddamn whippersnappers! Stop all this racket!

AND GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!!!


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Back to the subject at hand... For covers of songs, and such, if someone is too young to have heard the original, it shouldn't be a surprise they don't know it exists. If they are obstinate, or insist that their version is the original, however, they need a beatstick.

God, that pisses me off... As a musician, I listen to a lot of music, including a lot of covers (you have to know it before you can do it, and all that). Case in point: I know a f%*&load of people who think that "I Fought the Law" is either a Clash song or a Green Day song. These people get smacked by me. I have heard no less than seven versions of this song (in chronological order):

1. Sonny Curtis and the Crickets
2. The Bobby Fuller Four
3. Bob Marley and the Wailers
4. The Clash
5. The Teen Idles
6. Green Day
7. Bouncing Souls

You sir, have earned some respect from me. I know a lot of punk fans who don't even know who the Teen Idles are.

Sneakers is probably my favorite song of theirs.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

I listen to a lot of music, including a lot of covers (you have to know it before you can do it, and all that). Case in point: I know a f#%!load of people who think that "I Fought the Law" is either a Clash song or a Green Day song. These people get smacked by me. I have heard no less than seven versions of this song (in chronological order):

1. Sonny Curtis and the Crickets
2. The Bobby Fuller Four
3. Bob Marley and the Wailers
4. The Clash
5. The Teen Idles
6. Green Day
7. Bouncing Souls

TURN THAT SHIT DOWN!!!


Spacelard wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Oka I was participating in the Beta test of D&D On-Line for a while. I dropped it because it was eatting up too much of my time. :) However, before I stopped I witnessed a chat exchange between two of the other testers. One of them commented "This game is boring. It's nothing like WoW." The other one replied "Well what do you expect from an rpg based on Magic the Gathering." If I could have reached through the interweb andstrangled them both right then and there, I would be posting this from prison instead of my kitchen.
No court in the land would convict you, trust me.

Sebastian would surely offer his services!


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Back to the subject at hand... For covers of songs, and such, if someone is too young to have heard the original, it shouldn't be a surprise they don't know it exists. If they are obstinate, or insist that their version is the original, however, they need a beatstick.

God, that pisses me off...

I listen to alot of the older, original songs rather than covers...the covers tend to rarely do justice to the songs.
I once heard an interview with Shania Twain though...after she did the song.."Take a little peice of My Heart" (not sure if that is the title). This song was done by Janis Joplin....but according to Shania she thought it had been written for her...she had no idea that someone else had done it before her!!!! I could have died!

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