Heavy horses and the advanced simple template

[Krisam]

In the Bestiary preview, it says heavy horses gain the advanced simple template. The advanced simple template says if you want to rebuild the creature, you should add +4 to all its abilities.

Is that a typo? Or is a heavy horse really that much more intelligent, wise and charismatic than a light horse? Am I reading this wrong?

[Krisam]

Does no one know? Or is this just a stupid question?

[hogarth]

Krisam wrote:

Does no one know? Or is this just a stupid question?

It's an excellent question, and no one knows (except for the folks at Paizo, of course). :-)

[Zaister]

I would say keep the Intelligence at a maximum of 2, as this is the maximum for animals.

[hogarth]

Zaister wrote:

I would say keep the Intelligence at a maximum of 2, as this is the maximum for animals.

I don't know if that's the case any more; in the PFRPG rules a paladin's mount, for instance, is an animal with more than 2 Int (at least until level 11 when it becomes a magical beast via the Celestial template).

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/paladin.html

[Brandon Tomlinson]

druid and pally animals break the 2 int rule.

I'd also say cap int at 2.

[Krisam]

Brandon Tomlinson wrote:

druid and pally animals break the 2 int rule.

I'd also say cap int at 2.

I was thinking maybe to leave all the "mental" abilities as they were; I was just curious as to whether it had already been taken into account and decided against for some reason.

[Zurai]

Zaister wrote:

I would say keep the Intelligence at a maximum of 2, as this is the maximum for animals.

Incorrect. This rule was removed in Pathfinder. Animal Companions aren't an exception to this rule; there no longer is such a rule.

[Karui Kage]

To be fair, we have no idea whether this rule is still in or not. The Bestiary, where the statistics on all Animals would likely be located, is not out.

[KnightErrantJR]

I noticed that all of the animals in the Preview Bestiary have a 1 or 2 intelligence. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a cap on animal intelligence that animal companions aren't subject to.

[Lunever]

Even if it was clarified that animal int shall be capped to 2, and that the advanced simple template for horses meant physical stats only - making a heavy horse more dextrous than a light horse still doesn't make any sense. I very much hope for some errata there.

[Themetricsystem]

Zurai wrote:

Zaister wrote:

I would say keep the Intelligence at a maximum of 2, as this is the maximum for animals.

Incorrect. This rule was removed in Pathfinder. Animal Companions aren't an exception to this rule; there no longer is such a rule.

Um... no they didn't it is right there plain as day on page 307 of the Bestiary

Bestiary P.307 wrote:

Traits...Intelligence score of 1 or 2 (no creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher can be an animal).