Can Both Cleaves Exist in the Same Game?


Homebrew and House Rules

Dark Archive

Okay - my core 3.5 player for years likes the new cleave, but correctly states that "it's good, but it's a totally different feat." I actually agree with him to an extent. What do other GMs think of adding in Pathfinder feats to the 3.5 game as additional options - thus both Cleaves would be available...or giving the players the option to choose which Cleave they will use. It's the DM's call obviously whether to make a whole change - but just throwing it out there to others...

Liberty's Edge

I agree. They are two totally different feats and some prestige classes (such as the Dervish) cannot use the new Cleave feat like it's supposed to be used with the class.

What we did is rename the old Cleave and Great Cleave into Cleaving Strike and Greater Cleaving Strike. They function as they used to.

Dark Archive

I love it. Thanks.

Sovereign Court

I wouldn't do that for every feat, it doesn't work. Why would anyone take disruptive (pathfinder feat) when they could take mageslayer which can be taken earlier and actually prevents combat casting whereas disruptive only increases the DC. However I think that renaming old 3.5 cleave does in fact work just fine.

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