One of the Kensai PrC abilities is Withstand, use your Concentration modifier when you make a Reflex save. With Concentration out of the game how would a Kensai use this ability?
I would say, base their concentration checks on their Kensai level and either their Wis or Cha modifier.
D20 + Kensai leel + stat modifier
(Alternatively, you could also use double the kensai level + stat modifier)
Concentration for the casting classes is now based on a caster-level check (see PfRPG pg 206):
d20 + caster level + ability score modifier.
For a martial character, I can see a couple different options:
* d20 + BAB + Constitution modifier
* d20 + Character Level + Constitution modifier
* d20 + # of Levels with a fast BAB + Constitution modifier
You can easily create a feat that gives a +3 bonus on such checks (to replace Skill Focus: Concentration). You might also consider adding a +3 bonus to any of the above methods if Concentration used to be a class skill for the Kensai.
Hope this helps.
The easiest option would be to give them virtual ranks in the ability and let them roll d20+Con mod+3+character level (it was a class skill).
Concentration isn't out of the game.
It is as far as a Skill.
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* d20 + BAB + Constitution modifier
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This would be my choice for non-spellcasting classes.
I would just write it back into the game for those classes that needed it for certain things, not related to spellcasting.
It is as far as a Skill.
And Grapple is resolved differently as well.
* d20 + BAB + Constitution modifierThis would be my choice for non-spellcasting classes.
Mine as well.
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I'd simply use Autohypnosis from the Expanded Psionic Handbook in place of Concentration.
Autohypnosis
It should work well for Diamod Mind Martial Adepts, too.
And, compared to the 3.5 skill concentration, it's also useful for non-spellcasters.
Is there a way that Withstand could be handled with CMB or CMD?
If Concentration as a skill is out of the game, I'd try to use something that is still in the game if you can rather than making up a new formula.
Basically Withstand allows the Kensai to use Concentration check instead of a Reflex save.
The problem with using CMD is that it doesn't use Constitution as a modifier and it doesn't have a roll for variance. The problem with CMB is again that it doesn't use Constitution as a modifier and it's an attack roll, not a defensive roll.
Since neither of those does seem to work, I guess d20+BAB+CON mod is the best working solution I've seen. This is based loosely on how Animal Empathy skill in 3e was transitioned to Wild Empathy class feature of druids and rangers in 3.5e (and continues to be in PFRPG). I would use d20+BAB+CON mod rather than d20+Kensai level+CON mod because Kensai is a prestige class and that roll would be too low to be very useful.
You could also grant a +3 bonus to the roll because Concentration was a Kensai class skill if you want, but since it's basically a free skill now (instead of bought with skill points), you could just as easily leave off the +3.
If Concentration as a skill is out of the game, I'd try to use something that is still in the game if you can rather than making up a new formula. ...Since neither of those does seem to work, I guess d20+BAB+CON mod is the best working solution I've seen. ...You could also grant a +3 bonus to the roll because Concentration was a Kensai class skill if you want, but since it's basically a free skill now (instead of bought with skill points), you could just as easily leave off the +3.
Pathfinder Concentration: 1d20 + Caster Level + Caster Stat Bonus
PRPG "Martial" Concentration: 1d20 + BAB + CON BonusCasters used to use Concentration as a skill, but don't get the +3 Class Skill, so I don't see why Kensai should.
I really don't see why you would want to bring Attack or Touch AC Bonuses into the picture.
The "Martial" Concentration seems to be quite nearly the same as how Pathfinder runs Concentration, CON as "Martial" Caster Stat makes enough sense, and BAB as Caster Level as well. It doesn't seem like a big leap to me.