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Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
sorry if asking a question again, but Urizen what type of surgery did you go through last year?
Bariatric. Gastric Bypass. My woman just did it a week ago.

How much have you lost since the lifestyle change? I've known a couple of people that have done it, and I might consider it in the future.


Time to finish up for the night. Have fun you all!

CJ, you can call me if you want to.


Woodraven wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
sorry if asking a question again, but Urizen what type of surgery did you go through last year?
Bariatric. Gastric Bypass. My woman just did it a week ago.
How much have you lost since the lifestyle change? I've known a couple of people that have done it, and I might consider it in the future.

Almost 200 lbs. I had complications after the fact due to my gall bladder & appendix going kaputz. May or may not been related, but it was a rough year. I'm doing much better now. But the majority of people I know has done fine. My woman's doing a lot better post-op than I had expected (which is good). The only thing I would suggest, other than to carefully consider who does your surgery, is to take any psychiatric profile tests they give you seriously. A lot of people may not be able to hack the fact that it just isn't weight loss but a lifestyle change too.


I'm literally half the man I used to be ... and I'm proud to say that. :P I was literally over twice the size I am now.


Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
sorry if asking a question again, but Urizen what type of surgery did you go through last year?
Bariatric. Gastric Bypass. My woman just did it a week ago.
How much have you lost since the lifestyle change? I've known a couple of people that have done it, and I might consider it in the future.
Almost 200 lbs. I had complications after the fact due to my gall bladder & appendix going kaputz. May or may not been related, but it was a rough year. I'm doing much better now. But the majority of people I know has done fine. My woman's doing a lot better post-op than I had expected (which is good). The only thing I would suggest, other than to carefully consider who does your surgery, is to take any psychiatric profile tests they give you seriously. A lot of people may not be able to hack the fact that it just isn't weight loss but a lifestyle change too.

I am trying to change my lifestyle right now. Eat better and smaller portions. I am hoping to see if I can loose 38 lbs by May. That would put me at 300 lbs.


Woodraven wrote:


I am trying to change my lifestyle right now. Eat better and smaller portions. I am hoping to see if I can loose 38 lbs by May. That would put me at 300 lbs.

I'll tell anyone to drop the sodas and fried food for starters. Will do wonders. Drop white for whole grains. You don't drink beer, so that's good too. A little rum won't hurt if you continue that habit, though. :P


But if soda and alcohol is a hard thing to give up from a social standpoint, I wouldn't recommend this kind of surgery. Not saying you can't have it, but your body processes things differently when bypassing.


Urizen wrote:
But if soda and alcohol is a hard thing to give up from a social standpoint, I wouldn't recommend this kind of surgery. Not saying you can't have it, but your body processes things differently when bypassing.

Drink rarely, soda not much of a problem since I just gave up chew about 2 weeks ago, a little hard to give up soda completely. but trying to get at least 3 liters of water in a day.

Liberty's Edge

I was up to about 260 lbs (from a college weight of about 210 lbs). It took moving into a three-story townhome (free stairmaster), and putting myself on a weekly budget for lunches during the work week. The budget prevents me from having enough spare cash to put in the vending machine.

Right now, I'm down to about 230 without making any other significant changes in my lifestyle.


Woodraven wrote:


Drink rarely, soda not much of a problem since I just gave up chew about 2 weeks ago, a little hard to give up soda completely. but trying to get at least 3 liters of water in a day.

You'll get sick of water soon. If you like kool aid, I recommend picking up the generic splenda at a Walmart (it's cheaper there than anywhere else) and use two cups of it along with two koolaid packets and you can't tell the difference. I drink that like it's going out of style here at home. And much better than that flavored water crapola.


Cuchulainn wrote:

I was up to about 260 lbs (from a college weight of about 210 lbs). It took moving into a three-story townhome (free stairmaster), and putting myself on a weekly budget for lunches during the work week. The budget prevents me from having enough spare cash to put in the vending machine.

Right now, I'm down to about 230 without making any other significant changes in my lifestyle.

That's awesome. That's where I'm sitting comfortably at right now. At one point, I had dipped under 210 and that's actually too thin for my frame. I really looked sick.


I want to aim for about 250, I don't think my frame can handle less

The Exchange

Shooting for 180 myself.


Woodraven wrote:
I want to aim for about 250, I don't think my frame can handle less

How tall are you?

Liberty's Edge

Urizen wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:

I was up to about 260 lbs (from a college weight of about 210 lbs). It took moving into a three-story townhome (free stairmaster), and putting myself on a weekly budget for lunches during the work week. The budget prevents me from having enough spare cash to put in the vending machine.

Right now, I'm down to about 230 without making any other significant changes in my lifestyle.

That's awesome. That's where I'm sitting comfortably at right now. At one point, I had dipped under 210 and that's actually too thin for my frame. I really looked sick.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I have a broad frame (50 shoulders and 40 waist (currently). The Body Mass Index Chart says I should weigh 180 lbs. I would look anorexic at that weight.


Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:


Drink rarely, soda not much of a problem since I just gave up chew about 2 weeks ago, a little hard to give up soda completely. but trying to get at least 3 liters of water in a day.
You'll get sick of water soon. If you like kool aid, I recommend picking up the generic splenda at a Walmart (it's cheaper there than anywhere else) and use two cups of it along with two koolaid packets and you can't tell the difference. I drink that like it's going out of style here at home. And much better than that flavored water crapola.

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I found that my sugar cravings were off the charts high while I was drinking lots of splenda. I cut all the artificial sweeteners and it really helped cut down on the junk food cravings. I'll usually put about one to two ounces of fruit juice in a 12 ounce glass of water just for the flavor, and that works well for me. That and tea. Lots of tea.


Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
I want to aim for about 250, I don't think my frame can handle less
How tall are you?

5'11"-6'0" 19.5" neck


Cuchulainn wrote:


Yeah, I know what you mean. I have a broad frame (50 shoulders and 40 waist (currently). The Body Mass Index Chart says I should weigh 180 lbs. I would look anorexic at that weight.

The BMI thing ... is sorta crap. It's archaic, but it's good enough to get you past the insurance nazis to get the frakkin' surgery approved.


lynora wrote:


Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I found that my sugar cravings were off the charts high while I was drinking lots of splenda. I cut all the artificial sweeteners and it really helped cut down on the junk food cravings. I'll usually put about one to two ounces of fruit juice in a 12 ounce glass of water just for the flavor, and that works well for me. That and tea. Lots of tea.

I don't doubt it. But splenda and sugar processes differently Post-Op. One gives me dumping syndrome and the other doesn't. With fruit juices I got to watch what I'm drinking as a lof of them aren't 100% fruit juice or a bit misleading on the label.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Shooting for 180 myself.

I am around 230 lbs myself. I need to loose 30 to 50 pounds myself.


Woodraven wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Woodraven wrote:
I want to aim for about 250, I don't think my frame can handle less
How tall are you?
5'11"-6'0" 19.5" neck

EDIT: Post Monster got me.

I'm 6'2" and my neck shrunk to 17" and I have a 38" waist. There's a guy I work with that had the surgery 13 months ago and he's 2" taller than me, but dropped down to a 36" waist and weighs 207. He used to be a hair over 400.


Goodnight everybody, gotta get up early to head home for the holiday, and snow storm is supposed to hit tomorrow night so I gotta leave early.

My shoulders edge to edge about 21-22 inches.


Woodraven wrote:
Goodnight everybody, gotta get up early to head home for the holiday, and snow storm is supposed to hit tomorrow night so I gotta leave early

Later, WR. Travel safely.


hoardling post.


Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.


Anyone other than more find it time consuming to create new races?


Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Anyone other than more find it time consuming to create new races?

Any particular reason? What trouble are you having?


Urizen wrote:
Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Anyone other than more find it time consuming to create new races?
Any particular reason? What trouble are you having?

Not having trouble, it's just taking a while. That plus the fact my homebrew inroduces a new mechanic into the game; Bloodline Strength. Your BS increses as you gain levels and gives you new racial abilities. Sort of like Racial Paragons from Unearthed Arcana, but without having to take levels to get the abilities.


Twin Agate Dragons wrote:


Any particular reason? What trouble are you having?
Not having trouble, it's just taking a while. That plus the fact my homebrew inroduces a new mechanic into the game; Bloodline Strength. Your BS increses as you gain levels and gives you new racial abilities. Sort of like Racial Paragons from Unearthed Arcana, but without having to take levels to get the abilities.

From what I read a lot in the homebrews, a lot of BS increases as you gain levels. :P

Louis Porter Jr has a Race Creation Cookbook you may want to check out in your spare time.


Urizen wrote:
lynora wrote:


Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I found that my sugar cravings were off the charts high while I was drinking lots of splenda. I cut all the artificial sweeteners and it really helped cut down on the junk food cravings. I'll usually put about one to two ounces of fruit juice in a 12 ounce glass of water just for the flavor, and that works well for me. That and tea. Lots of tea.
I don't doubt it. But splenda and sugar processes differently Post-Op. One gives me dumping syndrome and the other doesn't. With fruit juices I got to watch what I'm drinking as a lof of them aren't 100% fruit juice or a bit misleading on the label.

Ah. Well, that makes sense. Me, I just have to be careful not to have too much sugar because of hypoglycemia. And I only drink 100% fruit juice. Corn syrup and white sugar do bad things to my blood sugar levels, where things like fruit juice, honey, or agave nectar don't effect it as much.


Urizen wrote:
Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.

~wicked chuckle~ Hah. Ha. He has entered into my trap!


Urizen wrote:
Louis Porter Jr has a Race Creation Cookbook you may want to check out in your spare time.

I wasn't aware that LPJ had made that for Pathfinder. Many thanks.


lynora wrote:


Ah. Well, that makes sense. Me, I just have to be careful not to have too much sugar because of hypoglycemia. And I only drink 100% fruit juice. Corn syrup and white sugar do bad things to my blood sugar levels, where things like fruit juice, honey, or agave nectar don't effect it as much.

Understandable. Sometimes I eat or drink something because I didn't have access to the label ingredients and I experience that. It's like standing up quickly from a seated position and getting light headed for a couple of seconds before I regain my balance equilibrium.


Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.
~wicked chuckle~ Hah. Ha. He has entered into my trap!

What, doesn't the dragon ever sleep? Gorram. Swift Expeditious Retreat!


Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Louis Porter Jr has a Race Creation Cookbook you may want to check out in your spare time.
I wasn't aware that LPJ had made that for Pathfinder. Many thanks.

No problem; just got released. I put up a fit when I bought the previous version one week before the PF upgrade release. LPJ hooked me up. Good customer service, that guy. And shameless self promoter, too. :D


Urizen wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.
~wicked chuckle~ Hah. Ha. He has entered into my trap!
What, doesn't the dragon ever sleep? Gorram. Swift Expeditious Retreat!

Sleep? Sleep? I do not sle--- zzzzzzz...


Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.
~wicked chuckle~ Hah. Ha. He has entered into my trap!
What, doesn't the dragon ever sleep? Gorram. Swift Expeditious Retreat!
Sleep? Sleep? I do not sle--- zzzzzzz...

<stops, then starts walking back. Rolls for Stealth. Action Point? Hmmm....>


Man, that got TOTP? I'll take it! FOR GREAT JUSTICE! YOUR TOTP ARE BELONG TO ME!


Urizen wrote:
lynora wrote:


Ah. Well, that makes sense. Me, I just have to be careful not to have too much sugar because of hypoglycemia. And I only drink 100% fruit juice. Corn syrup and white sugar do bad things to my blood sugar levels, where things like fruit juice, honey, or agave nectar don't effect it as much.
Understandable. Sometimes I eat or drink something because I didn't have access to the label ingredients and I experience that. It's like standing up quickly from a seated position and getting light headed for a couple of seconds before I regain my balance equilibrium.

Yep. Except that in my case if I don't get food that dizziness increases until I pass out. That plus low blood pressure means I faint a lot. Well, not as much anymore since I've learned to actually manage my diet to keep that from happening so much. But you get the idea. :)


Urizen wrote:
No problem; just got released. I put up a fit when I bought the previous version one week before the PF upgrade release. LPJ hooked me up. Good customer service, that guy. And shameless self promoter, too. :D

Just shot him an email requesting a free copy in exchange to review it. *crosses fingers*


Urizen wrote:
Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Louis Porter Jr has a Race Creation Cookbook you may want to check out in your spare time.
I wasn't aware that LPJ had made that for Pathfinder. Many thanks.
No problem; just got released. I put up a fit when I bought the previous version one week before the PF upgrade release. LPJ hooked me up. Good customer service, that guy. And shameless self promoter, too. :D

Yes, yes. It's in my shopping cart.


Urizen wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Stealing Sharoth's hoard post.
~wicked chuckle~ Hah. Ha. He has entered into my trap!
What, doesn't the dragon ever sleep? Gorram. Swift Expeditious Retreat!
Sleep? Sleep? I do not sle--- zzzzzzz...
<stops, then starts walking back. Rolls for Stealth. Action Point? Hmmm....>

~shakes my head and wakes up~ Who? what? when? I did not pull that prank on the Red Dragon! Honest! ~shakes my head and looks around~ Hmmmnnnn...


lynora wrote:
Urizen wrote:
lynora wrote:


Ah. Well, that makes sense. Me, I just have to be careful not to have too much sugar because of hypoglycemia. And I only drink 100% fruit juice. Corn syrup and white sugar do bad things to my blood sugar levels, where things like fruit juice, honey, or agave nectar don't effect it as much.
Understandable. Sometimes I eat or drink something because I didn't have access to the label ingredients and I experience that. It's like standing up quickly from a seated position and getting light headed for a couple of seconds before I regain my balance equilibrium.
Yep. Except that in my case if I don't get food that dizziness increases until I pass out. That plus low blood pressure means I faint a lot. Well, not as much anymore since I've learned to actually manage my diet to keep that from happening so much. But you get the idea. :)

Lynora, do you drink coffee? I only ask because Ido and I can't take it without sweetener. My mom refuses to buy equal, so we get Splenda. I'm wondering if cutting out the coffee (or seriously cutting back to maybe only two cups a week) in my diet will help curb my cravings.


lynora wrote:


Yep. Except that in my case if I don't get food that dizziness increases until I pass out. That plus low blood pressure means I faint a lot. Well, not as much anymore since I've learned to actually manage my diet to keep that from happening so much. But you get the idea. :)

I find it happen to me a lot when I don't have a decent amout of carbs in my bloodstream. Then again, they really press you to keep your protein intake at a certain level (60 - 72 g per day) and a lot of breads can be difficult to eat as it absorbs fluids and fills you up quickly (which is why toasted stuff is much easier to consume as it crumbles better). I just need to get up more slowly to prevent the dizziness, but sometimes I have to react quickly because one of the pets are acting up. Sometimes they all just can't get along.

But I'm rambling... :P I do get the idea.


Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Urizen wrote:
No problem; just got released. I put up a fit when I bought the previous version one week before the PF upgrade release. LPJ hooked me up. Good customer service, that guy. And shameless self promoter, too. :D
Just shot him an email requesting a free copy in exchange to review it. *crosses fingers*

Uh.... that's brave of you. :P I don't ask for freebies; I do buy the products. It's up to them if they want to be generous. Good luck nonetheless. :P


Sharoth wrote:


~shakes my head and wakes up~ Who? what? when? I did not pull that prank on the Red Dragon! Honest! ~shakes my head and looks around~ Hmmmnnnn...

<tip toe ... tip toe ... what's this? RIFTS? tip toe ...>


lynora wrote:


Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I found that my sugar cravings were off the charts high while I was drinking lots of splenda. I cut all the artificial sweeteners and it really helped cut down on the junk food cravings. I'll usually put about one to two ounces of fruit juice in a 12 ounce glass of water just for the flavor, and that works well for me. That and tea. Lots of tea.

Try this out for junk food cravings: it turns out that in addition to my plastic allergy, I'm allergic to corn. So what, you say? Check it:

Spoiler:

Things kruelaid can't eat:
• Acetic acid
• Alcohol
• Alpha tocopherol
• Artificial flavorings
• Artificial sweeteners
• Ascorbates
• Ascorbic acid
• Astaxanthin
• Baking powder
• Barley malt* (generally OK, but can be contaminated)
• Bleached flour*
• Blended sugar (sugaridextrose)
• Brown sugar* (generally OK if no caramel color)
• Calcium citrate
• Calcium fumarate
• Calcium gluconate
• Calcium lactate
• Calcium magnesium acetate (CMA)
• Calcium stearate
• Calcium stearoyl lactylate
• Caramel and caramel color
• Carbonmethylcellulose sodium
• Cellulose microcrystalline
• Cellulose, methyl
• Cellulose, powdered
• Cetearyl glucoside
• Choline chloride
• Citric acid*
• Citrus cloud emulsion (CCS)
• Coco glycerides (cocoglycerides)
• Confectioners sugar
• Corn alcohol, corn gluten
• Corn extract
• Corn flour
• Corn oil, corn oil margarine
• Corn starch
• Corn sweetener, corn sugar
• Corn syrup, corn syrup solids
• Corn, popcorn, cornmeal
• Cornstarch, cornflour
• Crosscarmellose sodium
• Crystalline dextrose
• Crystalline fructose
• Cyclodextrin
• DATUM (a dough conditioner)
• Decyl glucoside
• Decyl polyglucose
• Dextrin
• Dextrose (also found in IV solutions)
• Dextrose anything (such as monohydrate or anhydrous)
• d-Gluconic acid
• Distilled white vinegar
• Drying agent
• Erythorbic acid
• Erythritol
• Ethanol
• Ethocel 20
• Ethylcellulose
• Ethylene
• Ethyl acetate
• Ethyl alcohol
• Ethyl lactate
• Ethyl maltol
• Fibersol-2
• Flavorings*
• Food starch
• Fructose*
• Fruit juice concentrate*
• Fumaric acid
• Germ/germ meal
• Gluconate
• Gluconic acid
• Glucono delta-lactone
• Gluconolactone
• Glucosamine
• Glucose*
• Glucose syrup* (also found in IV solutions)
• Glutamate
• Gluten
• Gluten feed/meal
• Glycerides
• Glycerin*
• Glycerol
• Golden syrup
• Grits
• High fructose corn syrup
• Hominy
• Honey*
• Hydrolyzed corn
• Hydrolyzed corn protein
• Hydrolyzed vegetable protein
• Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose
• Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose pthalate (HPMCP)
• Inositol
• Invert syrup or sugar
• Iodized salt
• Lactate
• Lactic acid*
• Lauryl glucoside
• Lecithin
• Linoleic acid
• Lysine
• Magnesium fumarate
• Maize
• Malic acid
• Malonic acid
• Malt syrup from corn
• Malt, malt extract
• Maltitol
• Maltodextrin
• Maltol
• Maltose
• Mannitol
• Methyl gluceth
• Methyl glucose
• Methyl glucoside
• Methylcellulose
• Microcrystaline cellulose
• Modified cellulose gum
• Modified corn starch
• Modified food starch
• Molasses* (corn syrup may be present; know your product)
• Mono and di glycerides
• Monosodium glutamate
• MSG
• Natural flavorings*
• Olestra/Olean
• Polenta
• Polydextrose
• Polylactic acid (PLA)
• Polysorbates* (e.g. Polysorbate 80)
• Polyvinyl acetate
• Potassium citrate
• Potassium fumarate
• Potassium gluconate
• Powdered sugar
• Pregelatinized starch
• Propionic acid
• Propylene glycol*
• Propylene glycol monostearate*
• Saccharin
• Salt (iodized salt)
• Semolina (unless from wheat)
• Simethicone
• Sodium carboxymethylcellulose
• Sodium citrate
• Sodium erythorbate
• Sodium fumarate
• Sodium lactate
• Sodium starch glycolate
• Sodium stearoyl fumarate
• Sorbate
• Sorbic acid
• Sorbitan
• Sorbitan monooleate
• Sorbitan tri-oleate
• Sorbitol
• Sorghum* (not all is bad; the syrup and/or grain CAN be mixed with corn)
• Starch (any kind that's not specified)
• Stearic acid
• Stearoyls
• Sucrose
• Sugar* (not identified as cane or beet)
• Threonine
• Tocopherol (vitamin E)
• Treacle (aka golden syrup)
• Triethyl citrate
• Unmodified starch
• Vanilla, natural flavoring
• Vanilla, pure or extract
• Vanillin
• Vegetable anything that's not specific*
• Vinegar, distilled white
• Vinyl acetate
• Vitamin C* and Vitamin E*
• Vitamins*
• Xanthan gum
• Xylitol
• Yeast*
• Zea mays
• Zein
Once you do the math you'll find that not only am I allergic to 99.9% of all junk and fast food, I'm also allergic to most over the counter medicines.

I'm 180 lbs at 5 foot 11. With an hour of cardio every day that's a pretty lean 180. [edit: just weighed my self on the storage room scales]


Urizen wrote:
Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
Urizen wrote:
No problem; just got released. I put up a fit when I bought the previous version one week before the PF upgrade release. LPJ hooked me up. Good customer service, that guy. And shameless self promoter, too. :D
Just shot him an email requesting a free copy in exchange to review it. *crosses fingers*
Uh.... that's brave of you. :P I don't ask for freebies; I do buy the products. It's up to them if they want to be generous. Good luck nonetheless. :P

Back when I was prolific of enworld I was pretty close to becoming a staff reviewer, so I'm not unfamiliar with the process.


Ruh Roh, Raggy. The woman's sending me the signal that she's tired and needs help going to bed. That's my cue to be a gentleman and male nurse. :P

You guys all have a good evening.


peace

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