archmagi1 |
Book arya was allowed to leave at any point, without repercussions, according to the kindly man. I was a bit meh on the whole thing being dumb arya rather than jaqen or all along a trap. Without her warging like in the book it leaves her just a well trained assassin with echolocation, mastery of poisons, and a superlative mastery of disguise and blending. Still a potent foe to be sure, but her discovering and mastering her warg powers in the book has a better payoff if she simply leaves like she did in the show.
I like the hounds arc, and him replacing the need for LSH is better imo. I hated cat on the show and in the books, totally didn't want lsh to show up. But give the 1 swing decapitator a solid reason to exist is a good move on the tv guys.
And I read elsewhere how this episode was basically a snub to all the fan theories and gaga like shipping Jaime and Brienne and Cleganebowl and waif = arya.
Also unlike Mr molten Dragon above, this season is my second favorite thus far. Not being shackled to Martin has been an advantage, even if it does mix in a few more tropes that George didn't already include.
MannyGoblin |
I did think the episode was meh. They are certainly saving the budget for next episode.
Jamie did prevent a massacre even if it took threatening a baby to do it.
Turning a Sparrow into a Pez dispenser was fun but I suspect that Frankenmountain isn't as strong as he was because he was trying to pop the head with one hand I think.
Arya stuff was a waste
Since one of the season teasers showed another Harpy attack, I suspect that the Dorathaki will be sweeping in to finish them off.
Ambrosia Slaad |
Molten Dragon wrote:I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.
Hasn't it been too long to resurrect Cat at this point? In the books, Beric had to give up his last resurrection to bring StoneCat back; in the show, Beric is still very alive, which probably means Cat is still rotting somewhere.
Molten Dragon |
Hitdice wrote:Hasn't it been too long to resurrect Cat at this point? In the books, Beric had to give up his last resurrection to bring StoneCat back; in the show, Beric is still very alive, which probably means Cat is still rotting somewhere.Molten Dragon wrote:I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.
I agree that it's not too late to introduce LSH, but I thought in an interview somewhere around season four they said that there was basically no room in the show for LSH.
If I'm wrong that's fine but I'm not holding my breath.
MannyGoblin |
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Lemmy wrote:Besides, in the books, they find Cat's corpse by the river, 3 days after the Red Wedding... In the show, it's been years since that event. It's unlikely they'll ever find her corpse.She costars with Gendry in the wacky new Westerosi sitcom, Weekend at Catelyn's.
Lemmy |
I don't think she exactly chose to take off so far away or for so long. Drogon has a mind of his own, apparently.
She didn't plan to go that far away... But she still climbed on the Dragon without thinking twice and left Missandei behind.
Did she even try to convince Drogon to stay and fight?
Belle Sorciere |
I don't think she expected to leave anyone behind, and given all the spears/javelins it's not really surprising that Drogon left the fight behind.
That is, I don't think the situation of "Dany abandoning Missandei" is nearly as clear-cut as you're saying it is. The idea that she wanted to end up a week away on horseback from Meereen is patently absurd.
Lemmy |
That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.
And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'
MannyGoblin |
What I think of during Dany's flying scene
I have this big huge theory about the next episode! Since the creators like subverting things like Cleganebowl I have an idea how IllegitimateBowl will turn out.
The battle we see actually happens in a vision that Melisandre shows Jon. The armies gather and Ramsey makes a pitch to Jon, fight and thousands will die and everything in the letter comes true, or hand over Sansa and wear oaths to him. Not only can they leave they can also settle the Karstark/Umber lands. "I had them killed because they were traitors and didn't swear to me." Jon rejects and the battle starts. Jon and company rack up a body count but are all killed as the shield/pikemen crush them in a circle.
The vision ends and Jon goes out. Ramsey makes the exact same pitch. Jon thinks back to the vision and says 'Bring Sansa here." Cue credits.
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MMCJawa |
That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.
And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'
That scene played out just like the books...Drogon was getting spears chucked at him and being injured. Drogon wasn't so big that he could engage in melee without serious injury.
MMCJawa |
What I think of during Dany's flying scene
I have this big huge theory about the next episode! Since the creators like subverting things like Cleganebowl I have an idea how IllegitimateBowl will turn out.
** spoiler omitted **
Ugh..while the creators have messed up in the past, I don't think anything that stupid would happen.
Also as someone who never thought Cleganebowl was going to happen (at least with the trial), I was not really disappointed to see that outcome.
Lemmy |
Lemmy wrote:That scene played out just like the books...Drogon was getting spears chucked at him and being injured. Drogon wasn't so big that he could engage in melee without serious injury.That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.
And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'
GRRM isn't impervious to mistakes... But IIRC, the book doesn't describe her as "almost running Drogon over her friends and joyfully smiling while flying far away".
Lemmy |
The timely arrival of Littlefinger's forces was extremely predictable... Kinda disappointing, actually. It'd be better if Jon's forces were intentionally delaying the fight until they arrived. Why the f!+! didn't Sansa tell everyone she sent a raven to the Vale? Stupid character is stupid.
Jon and Ramsay's "duel" was underwhelming, but it wasn't particularly important anyway.
Ramsay's method of execution was extremely predictable, but I don't know how else they could kill him in a satisfying way. Good thing the hounds are polite enough to wait for Sansa's speech to be over, huh?
PS: How come the giant has no weapon or shield? He's the strongest member of Jon's army... And none of the veteran warriors and commanders ever thought about giving some sort of weaponry? All he needed is a large club and a freaking shield!
PS 2: How come Jon and Sansa don't even consider the possibility of asking the red woman to bring back his brother?
MannyGoblin |
Giants have trouble communicating beyond simple concepts. Handing him a club would work I agree but a shield would just be tossed IMO.
I believe Jon would have hosed things up unless Wun Wun sat on him regardless. His brother Rickon was going to get slaughtered and snap judgements are his thing. Davis did have a 'OH SUNOFAB&$%~!' look when Jon went out.
It would be just like Littlefinger to be holding back his forces, let the filthy wildings take the brunt then charge right in. As I said, LF and Davos would do a double face palm when Jon ran out. Which would no doubt lead to Jon getting trampled by the calvary when LF wanted to stay put and Davos charging.
Sansa telling Davos about Littlefinger would have been a good move, correct. Jon did show that he didn't listen to Sansa though.
As for Rickon, remember that the last scenes are a very short time after the fight and Rickon's corpse is no doubt under a pile of bodies and stomped flat by horses.
BigNorseWolf |
Giants have trouble communicating beyond simple concepts.
Nope. We don't know how smart they are, but Wun wun there was the one that figured out to use fire against the wights at hardhome, had a really good sense of when to fight and when to run for it, and i'm pretty sure that he didn't pick up those clothes here's wearing at Lord and Tailors.
They speak the tongue of the first men. We don't know how well but it goes well past point and grunt.