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Smurf?

Shadow Lodge

Brix wrote:


adresses don't work....

Addresses may not work, but the technique usually does. I spent a grand total of 15 minutes doing that legwork. If you're interested in getting a list of people who care, I can say the list of the board of directors is correct, you're just going to have to figure out the e-mail format.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
smurf smurf smurf smurf

How are you DOING that?

I thought they'd cut off all the dodges.

It might smurf up with me later.


Wait. You guy's avatars aren't always like that?

[url=smurf] [/url]

Dark Archive

taig wrote:
Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
catch catch catch catch

How are you DOING that?

I thought they'd cut off all the dodges.
It might catch up with me later.

Ha! I caught you!

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Jason Beardsley wrote:
taig wrote:
Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
catch catch catch catch

How are you DOING that?

I thought they'd cut off all the dodges.
It might catch up with me later.
Ha! I caught you!

Well, drat!

Dark Archive

taig wrote:
Jason Beardsley wrote:
taig wrote:
Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
catch catch catch catch

How are you DOING that?

I thought they'd cut off all the dodges.
It might catch up with me later.
Ha! I caught you!
Well, drat!

Nice..


Hehehe
Smurf

Liberty's Edge

Smurf

Just Checking

Sovereign Court

I went past the long eerily quiet isle of 4e card-power-thingys today. There was a screaming yet whispering reverence as though, "HERE SITS THE ISLE OF DUMB BOXES WITH DUPLICATE POWER_ STUFF_THINGS FROM THE EXPENSIVE BOOKS SOME KIDS JUST BOUGHT."

So there are books, then there's a database subscription thing for so-called "insiders", then there are redundant cards of thrice-similar powers in expensive boxes for classes... er, except that much of what is different for each class is also strikingly the same but with different names....uh, okay?!?

That is - wtf?

Is it necessary to gouge customers to buy magic-the-gathering-esque card-thingys to play? When did our game of imagination and fantasy become a bridge or pinochle game? Seems like to play "d&d" now, kids are getting hammered to buy content in print, electronic, and card format...

...related to this thread, given what is being called dnd product these days, perhaps it is an important time, afterall, to erase the evidence of a simpler, cost-effective time, when imagination was free, and those .pdf modules and books still contained reminders of the essence of everything you needed before databases and cards. The timing, in my observation, seems uncanny!

The Exchange

Seldriss wrote:

Hehehe

Smurf

hey you didnt smurf........how fair is that!!!

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Pax Veritas wrote:
A bunch of smurfin' nonsense

Smurf me more!

Shadow Lodge

Sebastian wrote:
Pax Veritas wrote:
A bunch of smurfin' nonsense
Smurf me more!

Is this the Smurf thread? Cool.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

SmurfQuest: Page 31. Who will get there first?


SMURFS RUINED D&D!!!


Pax Veritas wrote:

I went past the long eerily quiet isle of 4e card-power-thingys today. There was a screaming yet whispering reverence as though, "HERE SITS THE ISLE OF DUMB BOXES WITH DUPLICATE POWER_ STUFF_THINGS FROM THE EXPENSIVE BOOKS SOME KIDS JUST BOUGHT."

So there are books, then there's a database subscription thing for so-called "insiders", then there are redundant cards of thrice-similar powers in expensive boxes for classes... er, except that much of what is different for each class is also strikingly the same but with different names....uh, okay?!?

That is - wtf?

Is it necessary to gouge customers to buy magic-the-gathering-esque card-thingys to play? When did our game of imagination and fantasy become a bridge or pinochle game? Seems like to play "d&d" now, kids are getting hammered to buy content in print, electronic, and card format...

...related to this thread, given what is being called dnd product these days, perhaps it is an important time, afterall, to erase the evidence of a simpler, cost-effective time, when imagination was free, and those .pdf modules and books still contained reminders of the essence of everything you needed before databases and cards. The timing, in my observation, seems uncanny!

Rant about this elsewhere, please, Pax Veritas. If you don't want an Insider subscription, don't buy one. I played 4th Edition for months without one. It was awesome. It was better with the subscription, but that's the point of the subscription. If you don't want to buy power card decks, don't. You can create your own power cards, download power card templates online, use the Character Builder to generate power cards for you, or simply not use power cards. All of those solutions work just fine.

You seem to dislike Wizards offering its customers things they might find handy. There is little difference between offering power card decks and offering item or critical hit decks by Paizo, but you're only attacking one of these practices. This is not reasonable, and it's not about the power cards. It's not about the product. It's about you, and your unrestrained vitriol against Wizards. You've chosen to take it beyond the things you actually have issue with and instead are making it about everything that WotC does, even when those things are not offensive from any reasonable standpoint.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Someone should be able to smurf it to page 31.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

It's a damn shame that when a smurf meets an anti-smurf that they don't combine into pure energy and disappear. What a glorious place this would be if that were the case...


That would be positively awesome.

Dark Archive

I'd smurf that for a dollar!

The Exchange

or 2 $'s Id smurf it twice!


Scott Betts wrote:
You seem to dislike Wizards offering its customers things they might find handy.

Pax, TSR offered spell cards at one time IIRC. I see no difference. Didn't want 'em them. Don't need 'em now.

C'mon, you knew these would come out. Let's please get back to the original topic, something that is a more controversial issue.

The Exchange

Crimson Jester wrote:
or 2 $'s Id smurf it twice!

Why oh why do I almost always get smurfette...is someone trying to tell me something???

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

I'd smurf it like the fist of an angry god.

Wait...what are we smurfing about again?

Shadow Lodge

taig wrote:
Someone should be able to smurf it to page 31.

Hmm... I can think of a few ways you can do this...s[b][/b]murf

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

taig wrote:
Someone should be able to smurf it to page 31.

But not you, apparently. The Postmonster General will get you with his smurfhammer eventually and then you won't be able to skirt around the fences of decency by posting that word without using the official, approved image.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

Smurf?


we are smurfing about the SMURFING SMURFS! Smurf it!~


veector wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
You seem to dislike Wizards offering its customers things they might find handy.

Pax, TSR offered spell cards at one time IIRC. I see no difference. Didn't want 'em them. Don't need 'em now.

C'mon, you knew these would come out. Let's please get back to the original topic, something that is a more controversial issue.

Yeah! I really hate how they made those cards like Critical Hit Deck and Critical Failure Deck! How dare they! Damn you WotC, Damn you! Wait? ... What? ... They didn't make that? Oh ... Well then it is ok, only things WotC makes are Badong.

RPG Superstar 2012

This has no blue creatures in it.


test smurf

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

The smurf is out there.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Well, I'll be smurfed!

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.

Ah, I see now.

The Exchange

Zynete wrote:
taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.
smurf

What?

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

Crimson Jester wrote:
Zynete wrote:
taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.
smurf
What?

You reply fast.


I'll never understand the, somewhat juvenile, desire to smurfcrap a thread.

What does anyone gain from it?

I guess I am the only one who considers it as distasteful as the "shouting out" done over at the WotC forums, and to a lesser degree ENWorld.

It is just as spiteful, but with throwing flowers instead of insults.

And that makes totally acceptable then. [/sarcasm]

:-(

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

Disenchanter wrote:

I'll never understand the, somewhat juvenile, desire to smurfcrap a thread.

What does anyone gain from it?

I guess I am the only one who considers it as distasteful as the "shouting out" done over at the WotC forums, and to a lesser degree ENWorld.

It is just as spiteful, but with throwing flowers instead of insults.

And that makes totally acceptable then. [/sarcasm]

:-(

Haha. You smurfcrapped while saying you didn't believe in smurfcrapping. That's smurf-irony.

TD

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Isn't it smurf-ronic?

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Disenchanter wrote:

I'll never understand the, somewhat juvenile, desire to smurfcrap a thread.

What does anyone gain from it?

I guess I am the only one who considers it as distasteful as the "shouting out" done over at the WotC forums, and to a lesser degree ENWorld.

It is just as spiteful, but with throwing flowers instead of insults.

It tends to signify that the community has moved on. Happens whenever a thread has run its course and looks like it'll never stop rehashing the same old crap. There were multiple attempts to smurf this thread several (dozen?) pages back and they didn't catch on. When it was time, it did.


yoda8myhead wrote:
It tends to signify that the community has moved on. Happens whenever a thread has run its course and looks like it'll never stop rehashing the same old crap. There were multiple attempts to s this thread several (dozen?) pages back and they didn't catch on. When it was time, it did.

I know what it signifies.

I've been around here long enough.

But if the community has moved on, why not use their right not to click on a thread?

Why force, or at least try to force, their ideals onto other people?

I used to think this was a more tolerant board. A more respectful board. But I am starting to see it is just as bad as all the others. It just changes the methodology to throwing confetti instead of insults.

As if posters aren't smart enough to see through it.

Scarab Sages

taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.

OK; this is now getting silly.

I can see no clues in your BBCode, so it's got to be something else.
I have my suspicions, but as to proving it...hmmmm....

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Disenchanter wrote:

I know what it signifies.

I've been around here long enough.

But if the community has moved on, why not use their right not to click on a thread?

Why force, or at least try to force, their ideals onto other people?

I used to think this was a more tolerant board. A more respectful board. But I am starting to see it is just as bad as all the others. It just changes the methodology to throwing confetti instead of insults.

As if posters aren't smart enough to see through it.

There's nothing stopping you from continuing the non-smurf discourse. Some threads are even rescued from the blue if enough people get back on topic.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Page 31 for the smurf!

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Oh wait, I need to be on-topic now.

Grrr. I'm angry. Grrr. Really angry. So very angry. Grrr. This move will ruin all life on earth. Grrr. People will wander the streets, destitute and without pdfs. Everyone will be a pirate, and then snipers will kill them. Grrr.

Spoiler:

Grrr.


Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.

OK; this is now getting silly.

I can see no clues in your BBCode, so it's got to be something else.
I have my suspicions, but as to proving it...hmmmm....

I wonder if this is a hold over from some April Fool's joke that never quite got taken out of the system.


Sebastian wrote:

Oh wait, I need to be on-topic now.

Grrr. I'm angry. Grrr. Really angry. So very angry. Grrr. This move will ruin all life on earth. Grrr. People will wander the streets, destitute and without pdfs. Everyone will be a pirate, and then snipers will kill them. Grrr.

** spoiler omitted **

Buy your guns now. Go rent Shaun of the Dead. Load up on adult diapers, bottled water, and breakfast bars.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

pres man wrote:
Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.

OK; this is now getting silly.

I can see no clues in your BBCode, so it's got to be something else.
I have my suspicions, but as to proving it...hmmmm....
I wonder if this is a hold over from some April Fool's joke that never quite got taken out of the system.

Yeah, the smurfing thing dates back to April Fool's...2007? There were a couple "features" introduced for that day, including filters that made your posts sound pirate-ish, full of swearing, etc. I think one of the off-topic threads still has those filters in effect (the untitled thread maybe).

RPG Superstar 2012

Snorter wrote:
taig wrote:
This has no blue creatures in it.

OK; this is now getting silly.

I can see no clues in your BBCode, so it's got to be something else.
I have my suspicions, but as to proving it...hmmmm....

There's smurfing to it.

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