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Liberty's Edge

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Here you all go, The Latest Dragon Age Video!!

Dragon Age: Origins "A Hero".

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ok..ok... that was Biowares April Fools... ;-)

Check this out though, A game play trailer

Dragon Age: Origins Official Trailer 3

Wow!!! that looks fun!


I can't wait for this game. I'm checking the website a few times a week in the hopes of seeing some new background, some new characters, anything. And the good thing is that they update a lot more often than Blizzard and the Diablo 3 website. The fact that your character will have a background that effects the story is awesome. I want to use some of these ideas in the game (the "Dark Heroic Fantasy" tone, for instance) and apply it to a homebrew setting. It looks great and I'm hoping it'll be the Baldur's Gate fix that I've been missing.

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Go here Game Informer info on Dragon Age

It says alot!


Bioware and Green Ronin to Publish Dragon Age Pen & Paper Role-Playing Game.
http://greenronin.com/2009/05/bioware_and_green_ronin_to_pub.php

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linked for ease of reading

And good find!

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Hmmm I think I might be the only one interested in this game...
more info!

I can't wait!!!!!!!!!

Liberty's Edge

You know, this had pretty much fallen off of my radar mostly because it's not D&D, but that looks absolutely stunning. I may have to follow it a bit more...

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It's not "D&D" in the name sense, but they got the most of the gang from Black Isle (they did Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 for the PC) to do Dragon Age. So it's going to be a "spiritual successor".

Sovereign Court

Black Isle did not make Baldur's Gate 1 or 2. Bioware did.

Either way, this looks awesome. I'm looking forward to it a lot. The editing tools make me rather interested in getting this for PC rather then Xb360, though I'll have to wait and see how much user generated content gets made.

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Uzzy wrote:
Black Isle did not make Baldur's Gate 1 or 2. Bioware did.

Meh - Black Isle "assisted" in the development of Bauldur's Gate, and were the publishers.

Mac Boyce wrote:
It's not "D&D" in the name sense, but they got the most of the gang from Black Isle (they did Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 for the PC) to do Dragon Age. So it's going to be a "spiritual successor".

I guess I should've been more clear in that I really meant that it's not "D&D["/b] (emphasis on the quotes), but I understood that it was meant to be a spiritual successor.

Either way, my only concern is the lack of character versatility and variety that we see in a D&D game - it's only going to have 3 classes, with some limited customization possible within each one.

I will sorely miss:
Barbarian
Bard
Druid
Sorcerer
Monk
Paladin
Ranger
Cleric


Man this game looks sweet. Mass effect was pure awesomeness, so I can't wait for this to come out.

Silver Crusade

Etrium wrote:
Mass effect was pure awesomeness, so I can't wait for this to come out.

I wonder if Dragon Age will have a dryad character that male and female PCs have an equal chance at romancing.


I'm so excited for the game, but cgi sex scenes are creepy. Even if they aren't graphic or anything, the character models occupy that "not fake enough to be cartoony, not real enough to be human" grey area as demonstrated on 30 Rock.

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James Keegan wrote:
I'm so excited for the game, but cgi sex scenes are creepy. Even if they aren't graphic or anything, the character models occupy that "not fake enough to be cartoony, not real enough to be human" grey area as demonstrated on 30 Rock.

Uncanny Valley. People really started making a big deal out of it in the context of the videogame industry when the tech demo for Heavy Rain came out and creep everyone the hell out. IIRC, it's also a big part of why all-CG movies for kids have veered towards stylized instead of going for realistic again after The Polar Express gave children nightmares.

I distinctly remember being bothered after a run through Epcot Center's animatronics area...

More on the subject.

I think it's the eyes that really make or break it.


Mikaze wrote:

I wonder if Dragon Age will have a dryad character that male and female PCs have an equal chance at romancing.

Maybe a dryad Dragonconic creature?

Seriously, I didn't like the romance all that much. They're cheesy, uninspired, and a waste of space.

I also seen the preview of Mass Effect 2 for E3. I also can't wait for that game to come out.


Interview at GameBanshee about the Dragon Age tabletop game.


Mac Boyce wrote:
It's not "D&D" in the name sense, but they got the most of the gang from Black Isle (they did Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 for the PC) to do Dragon Age. So it's going to be a "spiritual successor".

Black Isle - who are now Obsidian - haven't got anything to do with Dragon Age. They're putting the finishing touches to Alpha Protocol before they start work on Fallout: New Vegas. Since Black Isle did create Fallout 1 and 2, there's a lot of excitement that (most) of the original designers are going to be working on a new Fallout game, which will be published by Bethesda next year.

Meanwhile, BioWare are doing Dragon Age with a lot of the same team-members who did Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (the ones who are still there, anyway), and have labelled it a 'spiritual successor' to BG1 and 2. They are citing the more modern, 'gritty' fantasy novelists such as George RR Martin as major inspirations on the game.

It looks awesome but I don't think my PC will be able to handle it. Still, that gives me six months to save up for a new one.


Thomas Jane is the Grey Warden (ok not really but it does lok like him to me anyways.)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-dragon-age/49796#comments_top

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Looks like the legal battles and technical hurdles are finally out of the way. The option to pre-order the game is open; I should have expected that a (hopefully) high-quality game is likely to have delays of some kind.


Dragon Age looks great, but marketing the game with a death metal soundtrack, not so good.

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I do hope the Collectors Edition comes out over here in the UK. I do like them, and all the extras sound appealing. Probably going to buy it on the Xbox 360, then get it on PC in a year or so, if a lot of high quality online content comes out for it.


Six page preview from Gamebanshee. I like it a lot because they talk about the system and actually playing the game.
Preview

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So, I'll ask, does anyone have the game yet???????


Yep. I like it a lot. My only criticism is that combat feels a little strange. It's not quite like an action rpg nor is it wholly turn-based. I'm kind of used to micro-managing my party and taking my time to make choices but it's a little hard to get used to playing like that on the Xbox. Especially since the camera only pans out so far.

So far, that's my only complaint, though.


James Keegan wrote:

Yep. I like it a lot. My only criticism is that combat feels a little strange. It's not quite like an action rpg nor is it wholly turn-based. I'm kind of used to micro-managing my party and taking my time to make choices but it's a little hard to get used to playing like that on the Xbox. Especially since the camera only pans out so far.

So far, that's my only complaint, though.

James, just a side note: I find it hard to take you seriously when your not a foetus floating in green liquid

Paizo Employee Creative Director

I've put in about 6 hours on Dragon Age so far... and already I think I can safely say it's my favorite video game of 2009. It's VERY fun. The graphics aren't cutting edge, but the storytelling and the enjoyment I'm getting out of it certainly is.


Amardolem wrote:
James Keegan wrote:

Yep. I like it a lot. My only criticism is that combat feels a little strange. It's not quite like an action rpg nor is it wholly turn-based. I'm kind of used to micro-managing my party and taking my time to make choices but it's a little hard to get used to playing like that on the Xbox. Especially since the camera only pans out so far.

So far, that's my only complaint, though.

James, just a side note: I find it hard to take you seriously when your not a foetus floating in green liquid

Dang. My image consultant told me to go for something "less creepy" and "more friendly"; seems I've only lost some of my gravitas.

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*giggle*

You said "ass"

Liberty's Edge

For those that have and are playing this ...

Talk to me about the Rated M, sex and nudity angle. I have a 15 year old that has expressed interest in this game, but, as a parent, I don't know how I feel about that.

Some games have an M rating, but are mostly just for realistic combat etc. This game seems to pretty much list everything you can imagine (sex, nudity, violence, alcohol etc)

So, what are we actually talking about here. Is this appropriate for a young teeneager?

Thanks!!!


The game is pretty damn violent.Heads are chopped off, and after any fight your characters actually spend a good deal of time afterwards covered in blood. Sex is pretty much just like Mass Effect. Intimate music playing while two characters shown in their underware spooning, and then showing only from the shoulders up when they go beyond that. There is alcohol in the game, kind of, I guess. I mean to say I once gave a bottle of wine to a party member as a gift, so yes booze exists in this world of Biowares, but I have yet to come across a beer chugging mini game (but I'm still holding out hope :P)

All that said, yes it earns it's M rating, but I certainly think it's nothing a 15 year old couldn't handle. We'll nothing I couldn't handle at 15 anyways.

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So yeah, I've been going through the various Origin Stories while I'm staying at my mothers house, just to get a taste of the various origins, before playing as my main character back home. One problem..

The Dwarven Noble origin is bloody brilliant. I may have to change plans and play a Dwarf now. It is just that good. I'll say no more so no one is spoiled. But I think even Mr Jacobs would approve of this one.


I love the game, but it's terribly frustrating. While I like that things you do and choices you make are important and have consequences, it drives me nuts that the auto save feature is so.. spotty. Other games, if you leave an area it always auto saves. Something changes, auto save. Important scene coming up or just resolved: auto save. If you don't take it upon yourself to constantly save the game, you end up replaying large chunks of it. For example:

Spoiler:
I'm just about finished with the Mage Tower and I've replayed the fight with Uldred at the top about four times. The first success, all the mages died. But I needed them to drive out the possession of the Arl's son in Redcliffe, so I tried replaying. Died a few times, finally got it right with the litany and tied everything up... only to die on the road from the tower to Redcliffe from a conman and his bandits. And of course there was no auto save or anything once I left the tower itself so guess who gets to replay the whole thing over again?

So save nonstop every five minutes or else you're going to pull your hair out.

Silver Crusade

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I'm playing it at the moment, and for now I'm getting a lot of deja vu from Mass Effect. Also I have a problem with overuse of "sudden but inevitable betrayals". Video Games should have a Sense Motive skill, because when someone has a voice that sounds like Tim Curry, and they aren't in my party, I know they are up to no good.

Then again, it could just be the human noble origin and once I finish my assessments for the semester I might restart it as a Dwarf Noble, or a mage of some description. Maybe even cross-play for once.

Edit: The Voice IS Tim Curry, well that's just gravy!

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Marc Radle 81 wrote:

For those that have and are playing this ...

Talk to me about the Rated M, sex and nudity angle. I have a 15 year old that has expressed interest in this game, but, as a parent, I don't know how I feel about that.

Some games have an M rating, but are mostly just for realistic combat etc. This game seems to pretty much list everything you can imagine (sex, nudity, violence, alcohol etc)

So, what are we actually talking about here. Is this appropriate for a young teeneager?

Thanks!!!

The violence is about comparable to Braveheart. Fights are bloody and painful-looking (when they aren't fake-looking, sigh) and anyone who spends any time in a fight ends up spattered with blood. Some of it is nightmare-inducing stuff (grappling with a giant spider, aaaaaugh) but we're not talking about spilled entrails or splattered brains.

Here's some examples of the level of violence (spoiler-less cutscene):

  • A spoiler-less cutscene from early in the story
  • Some random combat

    The sexual content is R-rated but not explicit. There is implied sex and demons of lust with metal pasties. The former is mostly of the semi-undressed people embracing, fade to black style, and generally comes once-per-playthrough at the end of a character's game-long subplot. There is homosexuality if that's something you're concerned about.

    A couple of examples:

  • A spoiler-ish cutscene with a lust demon tricking the player character; note that this leads to a bad ending for this subplot.
  • One of the love scenes

    As for miscellany, there are bars and drunks and such, but as far as I can tell there's no consumption of it, just a few stories that go into bars or have you rousting drunk soldiers. There's no smoking of any sort I can find, there's a sort of subplot about a fictional magical drug, and I assume you're not worried about magic/occult/demons because you're posting this on the Paizo forums.

    I'm not going to presume to make your decisions for you about whether this is appropriate for your 15-year-old. I just want to arm you with the facts.

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    So, finally started my main character, Erika Cousland, member of the Cousland Family (Human Noble origin). Noticed one thing. One of the female human hair styles is Imoen's from Baldur's Gate. :D

    Paizo Employee Creative Director

    I'm about 30 hours in on the game already, and have only explored about 28% of the game world. It's still awesome. I'm very happy that this Wednesday is a holiday for Paizo.


    James Keegan wrote:


    So save nonstop every five minutes or else you're going to pull your hair out.

    F5 is your friend in this game.

    Paizo Employee Creative Director

    I'm enough of a Bioware fanboy that if I have to replay 10 or 20 minutes of game play because I got too engrossed to save the game and then had to reload that I am actually pretty okay with getting to play the game that "extra" 10 or 20 minutes of course. It's a feature!!!


    James Jacobs wrote:
    I'm enough of a Bioware fanboy that if I have to replay 10 or 20 minutes of game play because I got too engrossed to save the game and then had to reload that I am actually pretty okay with getting to play the game that "extra" 10 or 20 minutes of course. It's a feature!!!

    Heh, well said.


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    James Keegan wrote:
    So save nonstop every five minutes or else you're going to pull your hair out.

    [Grumpy Old Gamer]Back in my day, we didn't have any fancy auto-save. We had to save the game ourselves and we liked it![/Grumpy]

    (Of course, don't get me started on Nethack! When you died you start a brand new character at the beginning!)

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    I didn't like the dwarf noble because

    Spoiler:
    I already pegged Brehlen as the bad guy the second he talked about Trian betraying me. Also, with the dwarf quest, the game becomes betrayal, betrayal, betrayal


    Just got it today and here are a few thoughts.

    I was expecting the combat to be closer to KotOR which allowed you time to ponder action and powers to use instead of the non-stop combat. The non-stop combat isn't a bad thing but requires a lot of camera control during combat so you don't miss any monsters.

    I started on casual, whatever happened to easy, to get a feel of how hard the combat is and found out even at the higher levels the combat is fairly easy once you figure out the controls, IMO.

    I have only played as a human noble so far and only up to the point of getting accepted into the greywardens but there don't seem to be any heavy moral choices in the dialog. You have choices to be the good son, the I want to see combat right now type and an a@#++%+. Hopefully more complex choices and dilemma come up as the game progresses.


    James Jacobs wrote:
    I'm enough of a Bioware fanboy that if I have to replay 10 or 20 minutes of game play because I got too engrossed to save the game and then had to reload that I am actually pretty okay with getting to play the game that "extra" 10 or 20 minutes of course. It's a feature!!!

    I must scrounge my pennies together and get this game. All this good buzz and I can't play it yet! Argh!!!! ;D


    Xabulba wrote:


    I have only played as a human noble so far and only up to the point of getting accepted into the greywardens but there don't seem to be any heavy moral choices in the dialog. You have choices to be the good son, the I want to see combat right now type and an a@%~%~%. Hopefully more complex choices and dilemma come up as the game progresses.

    You won't be disappointed on that front, in my opinion.


    James Keegan wrote:
    Xabulba wrote:


    I have only played as a human noble so far and only up to the point of getting accepted into the greywardens but there don't seem to be any heavy moral choices in the dialog. You have choices to be the good son, the I want to see combat right now type and an a@%~%~%. Hopefully more complex choices and dilemma come up as the game progresses.

    You won't be disappointed on that front, in my opinion.

    You are right, almost all dialog choices are ambiguous to the point of having to guess what response is the best one.


    A little tip:

    SERIOUS SPOILERS

    If you haven't gotten past your origin story and into the gray warden stuff, then don't look!!!

    Spoiler:
    for those of you who have gotten to the point of becoming a gray warden, but HAVEN'T taken the test yet and still have Alistair and the 2 dummies, take all the dummies stuff. You can get good armor and weapons and it won't affect the game any.


    I want a bigger inventory!

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    Xabulba wrote:
    I want a bigger inventory!

    Are you buying backpacks?

    Liberty's Edge

    Xabulba wrote:
    I want a bigger inventory!

    Two things - buy all the backpacks. Most vendors in each of the cities have a single backpack that will add 10 slots to your inventory.

    Second, is get the Warden's Keep DLC ($7 or free with Collector's Edition). Once you complete it, you have a lock box that you can store crap in.

    Dark Archive

    It seems like many if not all the folks at Paizo are addicts. I hope this doesn't effect the release schedule.

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