Binding Archon, Lantern. good or evil?


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If a Merchant Guild leader used bind planar creature to use Archon, Lantern to use their teleportation for shipping. Would this be evil? In my opinion this wouldn't be evil because you are paying them and they have a choice. Also if you use summon monster to summon Archon, Lantern and use them without paying them, would this be evil?


It's not necessarily evil or good on it's own, but I suppose it depends on what they are shipping. Food and supplies? That's cool. Weapons to subdue and oppress people... probably not so much.


Don't Archons have better things to do? Why would any of them consent to being bound as a teleportation service?


What's the Archon getting out of the deal?

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Archons should totally be used as objects to serve your needs. I use a Lantern Archon as a reading lamp myself. It is totally not evil. :)


i originally wanted to use them as lamps to light the guild hall actually,
and they would be used to transport magic items that people want to buy mostly, and we would sell these items to both good people and evil oppressing people.


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If a pit fiend can be used to heat some rich guy's heater in Cheliax, then by Jove I think an archon can teleport something! :p

And it'd probably have an issue selling magic items to people they knew were evil. If you force them against their will, then I'd consider that an evil act.


would you consider summoning them as per summon monster, "forcing them against their will"?


igorwolfgang wrote:
would you consider summoning them as per summon monster, "forcing them against their will"?

Summoning them, no. Keeping them against their will and forcing them to do your evil work. Yes.


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I go along with Odraude on this one. I'd also suspect Abadar would send a servant or two in disguise to look over your operation to make sure it's on the up-and-up, and/or possibly task you with a quest or two in trade for his servitors. Commerce is good, after all, but the love of money is not.

Good, imaginative use of resources, btw. I love this sort of flavor.


I seem to recall that Planar Binding was the more hostile of the two between Planar Ally and Planar Binding, yes?

I'm not going to call it evil, but you are coercing a creature to do something that it may -- or may not -- want to do. If I'm a creature of elemental Good, then I probably want to spend my time doing the best Good I can do all the time. And even if I'm coerced into doing something mildly Good, I may not like it if it's not the best Good I could be doing.

Anyhow, the PRD seems to say that the spell has the Good subtype if you use it to call a Good creature.

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