Three Things I Like About George Bush


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Inspired by this thread I started this thread for people to talk about what they like about the outgoing president. Please limit your comments to good things, there are plenty of threads where you make your hate for the man known. Who knows, by trying to think of some nice things your opinion of the man might change.

1) He sticks to his guns regardless of the consequenses.

2) He does his own work on his ranch, just like a regular person.

3) He is not afraid to say what he thinks even if others laugh at him for it.


Hmm.. I'll follow along David from your other thread. Let's see ...

1. I think Bush's statesmanship post 9/11 was excellent. I think he really shined 2001-2003.

2. I think his tax cuts did help the economy recover from the turn-of-the-millenium recession, especially when the Twin Towers were destroyed, along with so many fiancial workers who were going about their business when they were so foully murdered.

3. I thought he had a good sense of humor, even if his delivery was a bit flat. He was willing to admit mistakes and ridicule himself for them, something that isn't easy for a world leader to do.


Gah, postbug ate my post. It took me ages to write that post. |:(
And no, that isn't a double-edged comment.

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i am not from the US, and while I had seen more bad than good i must admit...

Bush has excellent reflexes for his age... I swore both shoes of the Iraki reporter were aiming between his eyes.


Montalve wrote:

i am not from the US, and while I had seen more bad than good i must admit...

Bush has excellent reflexes for his age... I swore both shoes of the Iraki reporter were aiming between his eyes.

Yes, Bush has been condemned for his poor intelligence and wisdom, but I don't want to hear a thing about him having a bad reflex save. :)


1) He kept this country safe for eight years.

2) His battle on the AIDS epidemic in Africa has been exemplary.

3) He stuck to his guns and did not worry about his popularity. Yes, many countries do not like us but that can be a good thing as well. Much of the anti-Bush rhetoric came from countries heavily involved in the oil-for-food scandal, which Bush disrupted.

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1.) I loved some of the snarky responses he gave the White House Press Corps when they asked a question he already told them he wasn't going to answer.

2.) I loved that he dodged the shoe.

3.) I loved that he didn't apologize to the terrorists after 9/11.

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He was a constant source of comic relief.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
He was a constant source of comic relief.

Jeremy, as was mentioned by the OP this is not the "Insult George Bush" Thread. There is another thread for that.

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No seriously he always had a good sense of humor.

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1) he did what he said he was going to do, or at least tried his hardest to if it required congress to pass.

2) he was willing to disagree with the party line (his attempts to pass imigration reform).

3) he made up words and was willing to use words that weren't real, why more people don't is quite a quizibuck.

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Cuchulainn wrote:

1.) I loved some of the snarky responses he gave the White House Press Corps when they asked a question he already told them he wasn't going to answer.

2.) I loved that he dodged the shoe.

3.) I loved that he didn't apologize to the terrorists after 9/11.

Agree on all counts.

Scarab Sages

1) No attacks on our soil after 9-11.

2) He was willing to accept the consequences of his choices.

3) He is honest, loyal and humble.

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Bush seems like a nice guy; sort of like a down-on-his-luck lawyer that you'd meet in a bar, already slightly tipsy, and always in a moderate good mood. You tell him your problems, and he says something to the effect of 'That's nice.' Nothing gets done, but you feel better as you get more and more drunk. You and George tell each other jokes, having a great time until closing time. When you get home, your wife yells at you, and you have to sleep on the couch again. And when you wake up, there's a new president.


Number's 1, 2, and 3...the moron was always good for a laugh...


*sigh* some folks just can't resist a kick at the man as he walks out the door. He's not my favorite president, but the asinine vitriol some folks have spewed towards him is amazing. David, I guess your experiment is basically a failure, just goes to prove that there are lots of small-minded folks out there who are unwilling to unbend from their ideological stance to say one nice thing about Bush, let alone three.

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lastknightleft wrote:
2) he was willing to disagree with the party line (his attempts to pass imigration reform).

ok this point i must abide

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1. He was relatively civil during the transition to the Obama administration, despite his massive number of last-minute executive orders.
2. He was instrumental in cementing the careers of many comedians, including Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
3. I'll get back to you on this one...

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1. I agree wholeheartedly with his invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11.
2. He attempted to find compromise on the issue of illegal immigration.
3. He was incredibly effective in getting his policies enacted.


He did absolutely ALL within his power to destroy freedom of information, freedom of speech and freedom of communications, thereby doing EXACTLY what the terrorists wanted. His HIV-policies in Africa and other countries, with the "global gag rule" has probably done more than anything anyone has ever been able to do to SPREAD the disease effectively. He singlehandedly destroyed the entire economy of the West.

I am sorry. The only thing he COULD have done WORSE would be starting a global nukular war, which we can all be grateful he didn't. Three good things about him?

1) He's not president anymore.
2) and 3): See 1).

To all you americans out there: Don't repeat performance Bush, ok?

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Wow, I guess Patrick is right, some people can't get past their bought of Bush Derangement Syndrome long enough to try and say a few nice things about the man, or at least locate the approriate thread. I think it's funny that the people who disagree with Obama have been able to either say nice things about him, or keep their thoughts to themselves over on the Obama version of this thread. Any sociologists out there want to tell us what that means?

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Corian of Lurkshire wrote:

He did absolutely ALL within his power to destroy freedom of information, freedom of speech and freedom of communications, thereby doing EXACTLY what the terrorists wanted. His HIV-policies in Africa and other countries, with the "global gag rule" has probably done more than anything anyone has ever been able to do to SPREAD the disease effectively. He singlehandedly destroyed the entire economy of the West.

I am sorry. The only thing he COULD have done WORSE would be starting a global nukular war, which we can all be grateful he didn't. Three good things about him?

1) He's not president anymore.
2) he didn't start a global nukular war
3) he did absolutely everything within his power to do what he wanted to do
To all you americans out there: Don't repeat performance Bush, ok?

You know considering that you didn't have to comment and did so only to needlessly bash the guyI'll just fix that for you by your own statement

and for the record I've disagreed with bush since pretty much 9/11


1) he did what he thought was right, instead of what was popular

2) he didn't give up just because things were difficult or unexpected

3) he maintained a sense of dignity and humor despite relentless personal attacks against himself & his family

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Corian of Lurkshire wrote:

He did absolutely ALL within his power to destroy freedom of information, freedom of speech and freedom of communications, thereby doing EXACTLY what the terrorists wanted. His HIV-policies in Africa and other countries, with the "global gag rule" has probably done more than anything anyone has ever been able to do to SPREAD the disease effectively. He singlehandedly destroyed the entire economy of the West.

I am sorry. The only thing he COULD have done WORSE would be starting a global nukular war, which we can all be grateful he didn't. Three good things about him?

1) He's not president anymore.
2) and 3): See 1).

To all you americans out there: Don't repeat performance Bush, ok?

When you're president and you do a better job, feel free to insult him as extremely (and idiotically)as you just did.

Ohh, also, learn some history. and political science. and economics. and constitutional law. and manners. and wit. I have heard plenty of people insult him way more cleverly than you. If you are going to act like an idiot, at least be a clever idiot.

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David Fryer wrote:
Wow, I guess Patrick is right, some people can't get past their bought of Bush Derangement Syndrome long enough to try and say a few nice things about the man, or at least locate the approriate thread. I think it's funny that the people who disagree with Obama have been able to either say nice things about him, or keep their thoughts to themselves over on the Obama version of this thread. Any sociologists out there want to tell us what that means?

David, just out of curiosity, did you pick up the phrase "B.D.S." from that blog link I gave you a while back?

I love that phrase, describes the phenomenom perfectly ;)

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1. He genuinely seemed to give a darn. During the Anthrax attacks, my brother in law was the mystery man in the hospital that contracted anthrax. (because of privacy and security concerns, his name was kept secret. And also I think because they didn't want the perpetrators involved to know how he contracted it, for fear it might give them a better idea of its actual effectiveness as a biological warfare technique.) Bush called my sister and gave his sympathies and spoke to her for nearly a half hour. He didn't have to, it wasn't televised, it wasn't a cheap publicity stunt. It was just the right thing to do, with no hope of it becoming public. I respected that and it humanized the guy (for me) even when I was furious with the way he ran things and the choices he made.

2. Dude has great reflexes. I hope to be able to dodge and weave as much as he could when I'm his age.

3. He was funny in a snarky, sarcastic way. C'mon, turdblossom as a nickname for your closest adviser and friend? Funny!

That being said, I am immensely relieved to see him go and proud that President Obama is now firmly in power. I am once again hopeful for the future of my country.


Thanks for making your fellow liberals, such as myself, look like total @ss-hats. He didn't excercise anywhere near the authority he could have to destroy civil liberties. Nevermind that he didn't do anything to expand them. He got more done on the African AIDS front than Clinton, a president I liked. Single handedly destroyed the economy? Are you high? Members of his party had a lot to do with expansion and exploitation of the deregulations started by Clinton, but come on! There's a whole boat-load of people responsible for that, from both sides of the aisle. Nice Bushise spelling of nuclear, though.

1)Proved the existence of Improved Dodge (Footwear).
2)Whethered scaything, and often unbalanced attacks, from the media very well.
3)Continued the tradition of hot-moms for the first lady. ;)


James Martin wrote:

1. He genuinely seemed to give a darn. During the Anthrax attacks, my brother in law was the mystery man in the hospital that contracted anthrax. (because of privacy and security concerns, his name was kept secret. And also I think because they didn't want the perpetrators involved to know how he contracted it, for fear it might give them a better idea of its actual effectiveness as a biological warfare technique.) Bush called my sister and gave his sympathies and spoke to her for nearly a half hour. He didn't have to, it wasn't televised, it wasn't a cheap publicity stunt. It was just the right thing to do, with no hope of it becoming public. I respected that and it humanized the guy (for me) even when I was furious with the way he ran things and the choices he made.

2. Dude has great reflexes. I hope to be able to dodge and weave as much as he could when I'm his age.

3. He was funny in a snarky, sarcastic way. C'mon, turdblossom as a nickname for your closest adviser and friend? Funny!

That being said, I am immensely relieved to see him go and proud that President Obama is now firmly in power. I am once again hopeful for the future of my country.

I didn't know anything specific about the first point but that doesn't surprise me either, he seemed like that kind of guy.

And I agree on two other points, and think he handled the Afganistan was rather well (except Guantanamo).


Garydee wrote:
1) He kept this country safe for eight years.

Just gonna say, technically he didn't. A ton of Americans died in the Iraq war.

But if you're arguing that way, you could also say that Lincoln sucked (in my opinion, he was no Ghandi, but that's just my radical opinion. I also think that the Revolutionary War was barbaric and unnecessary).
;)

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George W. Bush:

1) ... looked out for those things he thought needed his attention and favor. I may disagree with his priorities, but he did fight for them.

2a) ... kept himself sober, and
2b) ... kept his pants zipped.

3)... learned lessons about what he didn't like in the Clinton White House, and tried to avoid what he saw as Clinton's errors.
For example, he eliminated the distraction of a Special Prosecutor, and he kept himself on a short leash with presidential pardons.

One of the major effects of this administration was the consistent and focused effort to strength the Executive branch of the Federal government at the cost of the Judicial and, especially, Legislative branches. We will all be old men and women before we understand if this is a good thing or not.

Another major effect is that it kept Al Gore from becoming president. We don't know what kind of influence Gore will have in the years to come --I'd put him on the short list for SCOTUS Justice once another woman and person of color are seated-- but it's fairly clear that Gore, with the effects of 9/11 and a hostile Republican Senate and House, wouldn't have been able to accomplish much in the Oval Office.

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Garydee wrote:

1) He kept this country safe for eight years.

2) His battle on the AIDS epidemic in Africa has been exemplary.

3) He stuck to his guns and did not worry about his popularity. Yes, many countries do not like us but that can be a good thing as well. Much of the anti-Bush rhetoric came from countries heavily involved in the oil-for-food scandal, which Bush disrupted.

1) With respect, I disagree. 9/11 happened on his watch, and he's responsible for doing so little to prevent it.

2) Agreed.

3) I sort-of agree. He chose which guns to stick to, and he chose the constituencies with which he wanted to maintain his popularity. John Roberts as Chief Justice? Alberto Gonzolez as Attorney General? Those appointments were aimed more to curry favor than to appoint the best people to the offices.

But I agree with you about the oil-for-food scandal. Good catch, there; it gets overlooked a lot.


Sure enough, the flak started coming in. Can't say I am too worried. People have complained about how people "show irrational hatred of Bush". You flak guys just demonstrated a severe tendency of irrational support of Bush. Perhaps it's because you don't like to think about how your votes 2000 and 2004 affected the world? And no, I have no obligation to be a better president before I can criticize the man. That's one of the things about being a president: EVERYONE can, and will, have an opinion about you. And his global gag rule, a.k.a. No abortions, no condoms, only abstinence if you want money, that's monstrous, and it's been singularly effective in spreading HIV severely in Africa. Read up on the numbers before you say stuff like "His HIV work in Africa was exemplary". Those numbers are pretty depressing.

Seriously, I was VERY worried that he would want the Rapture and all that to start, and pressing the button would probably have caused something very eschatological. So, apart from the Not being president anymore, I truly AM grateful I won't have to live the rest of my life in a postapocalyptic wasteland. Thank you, Bush, for not pressing the button!

Keep the flames coming, I have all the flame-repellant I need. =)

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Corian of Lurkshire wrote:

I truly AM grateful I won't have to live the rest of my life in a postapocalyptic wasteland. Thank you, Bush, for not pressing the button!

Really I think that'd be cool, I want to fight in the thunderdome!


I don't have anything positive to say about his personality or good-old-boy manners because I have heard from some pretty well-placed people that it's more an act than reality - which means he's a better politician than a lot of people give him credit for.
But there are a few things that I can say that I respect him for:

1) Invading Afghanistan - an appropriate response to a regime openly harboring Al Qaeda and flaunting it

2) Consistently upholding Islam's respectibility even while he was blasting terrorists who claim to attack in the name of Islam

3) Maintaining good humor even when having a shoe thrown at him. Not everyone can maintain their cool when being attacked, even (mostly) symbolically by having a shoe thrown at him.

4) Finally recognizing that initial reversals of his predecessors policies weren't working and slowly realigning foreign policy to emphasize more continuity with previous administrations (I assume this came with Dick Cheney being partly sidelined)... though I'm still vexed that it took 5-6 years to make that realization.


David Fryer wrote:
Wow, I guess Patrick is right, some people can't get past their bought of Bush Derangement Syndrome long enough to try and say a few nice things about the man, or at least locate the approriate thread. I think it's funny that the people who disagree with Obama have been able to either say nice things about him, or keep their thoughts to themselves over on the Obama version of this thread. Any sociologists out there want to tell us what that means?

I don't think it means a thing. There was plenty of Clinton Derangement Syndrome on the eve of, during, and after his presidency that it's no phenomenon confined to the left side of the aisle.

Both, to me, seemed more reactions - retribution for previous transgressions, than anything else. Republicans lambasted Clinton because he was the first really vulnerable Democrat president (on a personal/corruption level) and they wanted to get back for the drubbing Nixon took. Democrats, inflamed over the beating Clinton took, took it out on Bush II.

I also think the rise of talk radio, right-wing in advance of and during Clinton's presidency, left-wing during Bush II's, that set a lot of the pace. It's a lot easier to whip up the rhetorical attacks if you've got professionals who make it their job to do so broadcasting every day.

If Obama escapes the same treatment, mark it down to likely vitriolic exhaustion of both parties. But considering what guys like Hannity are already saying, I'm not betting it will happen.


Garydee wrote:
...he was no Ghandi...

Hehehe. Good one, Gary.

And while I'm here, why do people bring up Lincoln when they're justifying Bush's violence? I don't see any relationship. Just a lot of dead Iraqis.


1) Definitely dodging the shoe. Reflexes of a 14th level monk. He should of deflected it back at the attacker.
2) When Dick Cheney informed Bush that a guy was "a world class a**hole" at an event, and Bush agreed with him. Funny moment.
3) His daughter Barbara Bush. Nice genes. I bet Laura was something too back in the day.

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All these politics threads lately make me sad. They're just not good for the community, even the ones like this that try to be positive, they're just flame wars waiting to happen. I'd be grateful if we could lay off them for a while and get back to some D&D...

But, in the spirit of positivity...

1. He had a vision for making the U.S. safer and the world a better place, and fought hard for that vision.

2. He did not chase public opinion, he sought to lead it.

3. He transformed his life through the strength of his beliefs and his will and overcame addictions that would have defeated a lesser man.

Okay, a bonus one.

4. He was funny (and I don't mean "he was funny to laugh at" I mean he had a good sense of humor and seemed like the kind of guy that would be fun to be around).

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houstonderek wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Wow, I guess Patrick is right, some people can't get past their bought of Bush Derangement Syndrome long enough to try and say a few nice things about the man, or at least locate the approriate thread. I think it's funny that the people who disagree with Obama have been able to either say nice things about him, or keep their thoughts to themselves over on the Obama version of this thread. Any sociologists out there want to tell us what that means?

David, just out of curiosity, did you pick up the phrase "B.D.S." from that blog link I gave you a while back?

I love that phrase, describes the phenomenom perfectly ;)

I've actually heard it a few different places, including the blog link you sent me. Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck have been using it a lot lately.


Kruelaid wrote:
Garydee wrote:
...he was no Ghandi...

Hehehe. Good one, Gary.

And while I'm here, why do people bring up Lincoln when they're justifying Bush's violence? I don't see any relationship. Just a lot of dead Iraqis.

Actually that was Kobold Cleaver who said that. :)

Scarab Sages

1. He stuck to his guns on the War on Terror.
2. He was funny and personable.
3. All the great work he did for Africa and the AIDS epidemic.

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1) The reports of conspiracies to keep President Bush in power after Jan 20, 2009 went unfounded.

2) He was able to keep away from the bottle. I'm not an alcoholic, but know many of them and enough to know how hard it is to do.

3) If you can find it, listen to the recording of the phone call to Rush Limbaugh from both President Bushes and former Gov Bush. There's a sign of real warm caring people. (and for all you Rush Bashers, he's speachless, so you should be shocked)


First of all. His work against AIDS is highly touted. Clinton deregulating these crooks is what screwed up the economy. He most certainly did NOTt try to destroy free speech. 9/11 did not happen because Bush was in the Whitehouse NOONE imagined such a thing was possible. He took down Sadam, which needed to happen. He was a much better Presisent, husband, and man than Clinton. To all of you clowns who came here and were negative after being asked kindly NOT to. I will not post what I think of you. I dont want to get banned.

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secretturchinman wrote:
First of all. His work against AIDS is highly touted.

Actually, until Bob Geldoff went off on the press a few years back, most Americans had NO IDEA Bush was so active in combating AIDS and malaria in Africa. Geldoff took the press to the mat over that, saying that they were so blind with hatred for the guy, they couldn't even report to the American people how much more (by a large margin) he was doing for Africa than any president prior.

Sad, really.


secretturchinman wrote:
9/11 did not happen because Bush was in the Whitehouse NOONE imagined such a thing was possible.

Categorically not true. There was a bi-partisan commission (Rudman-Hart) that looked into the terrorist issue and specifically mentioned the possibility of hijacking planes to crash into targets months before the event occurred.

Make the case you want to make since much of anybody's feelings about Bush and his qualities as president are subjective, but try to avoid things provably not true.

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Sebastian wrote:
All these politics threads lately make me sad. They're just not good for the community, even the ones like this that try to be positive, they're just flame wars waiting to happen. I'd be grateful if we could lay off them for a while and get back to some D&D...

The Great One speaks the truth! All hail Sebastian! Fetch the dice, the playtest boards await!


1. He put many miles of beautiful ocean under environmental protection shortly before leaving.
2. AIDS in Africa assistance.
3. Initial stages of the war in Afghanistan were both well-handled and the correct course of action.
4. Hell, he was a really good sport during this transition.

Had to kind of reach a little, but I managed.


houstonderek wrote:
secretturchinman wrote:
First of all. His work against AIDS is highly touted.

Actually, until Bob Geldoff went off on the press a few years back, most Americans had NO IDEA Bush was so active in combating AIDS and malaria in Africa. Geldoff took the press to the mat over that, saying that they were so blind with hatred for the guy, they couldn't even report to the American people how much more (by a large margin) he was doing for Africa than any president prior.

Sad, really.

Geldoff isn't necessarily right. A quick Google finds articles in the Washington Post, on ABC, CBS, and CNN. But there are indications that, while treatment has been a positive, conservative-based restrictions on the AIDS education programs may be counter-productive. So, still a mixed bag on AIDS.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
I also think that the Revolutionary War was barbaric and unnecessary.

Why do you say that? (In my own opinion: unnecessary? no. Barbaric? YES.)


lastknightleft wrote:
Corian of Lurkshire wrote:

I truly AM grateful I won't have to live the rest of my life in a postapocalyptic wasteland. Thank you, Bush, for not pressing the button!

Really I think that'd be cool, I want to fight in the thunderdome!

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