What year does Savage Tide take place?


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As the title asks. Also, what year (or just how long before present) was Farshore founded? What year did Lavinia's mother first travel to the Isle of Dread?


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Here is my Sasserine timeline up to the start of TiNH based upon various info in the modules and the modules starting year of 596 CY as I believe James Jacobs confirmed.

573 -23 years: Lavinia born
575 -21 years (?): Vanthus born
586 -10 years: Sea Princes overthrown; Dawn Council formed
591 -5 years: Lavinia sent to academy; Vanthus sent to plantation
592 -4 years: Lavinia's parents and the 250 original colonists left to found Farshore. The Vanderborens managed to return to Sasserine to attempt (and fail several times) to get a new set of colonists down there.
593 -3 years: Wealsun 6th to Sunsebb 1st (about 6 months); Larissa's adventures on the Isle of Dread as stated in her diary.
595 -1 year: Lavinia and Vanthus return to manor
595 -1 year: Vanthus taking up with seedy characters
596 -4 months: Vanthus involved with Brissa Santos
596 -3 months: Vanthus steals mother's signet ring
596 -1 month: Vanderborens killed; Lavinia inherits
596 -3 weeks: Vanthus hits Lavinia; disappears
596 -3 weeks: Vanthus kills Penkus
596 -3 weeks: Vanthus starts stealing from the vault
596 -1 week: harbormaster impounds The Blue Nixie; places Soller Vark in charge
596 -3 days: Lavinia pays Vark; denied access to ship
596 -1 day: Lavinia invites the PCs to dinner
596 0 day Start TiNH.

I had the starting date be Flocktime 16th.


Thanks a lot!

Would it be off to say that Larissa's first voyage to the Isle of Dread was 27 years before the campaign begins? So 569.

I'm sort of assuming an 18 year old Larissa, which means she was around 20 when marrying and 22 when giving birth to Lavinia. 45 when she was murdered, 41 when she returned to the Isle of Dread to help found Farshore.


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Kain Darkwind wrote:
Would it be off to say that Larissa's first voyage to the Isle of Dread was 27 years before the campaign begins? So 569.

Well, your campaign may vary, but as far as I could tell, the journal relates Larissa's first and last time to the island. Verrik was the one who had interest in setting up the colony on Temute.

According to Dungeon #114's writings on the Isle of Dread, the first non-Olman person recorded to discover the island was Rory Barbossa from the Great Kingdom in 565 cy (-31 years). Rory was funded by the Seekers, to which Larissa and Verrik also belonged. So Verrik himself may have never been to Temute Island before the colony trip, and they may have gotten all of the information on the island from the Seekers.

Though it still wouldn't be out of place that they surveryed the islands sometime before that to find a suitable colony space.

Hope that helps.

Bob


Cool. Thanks for the handy chronology!


Robert Hradek wrote:
Kain Darkwind wrote:
Would it be off to say that Larissa's first voyage to the Isle of Dread was 27 years before the campaign begins? So 569.

Well, your campaign may vary, but as far as I could tell, the journal relates Larissa's first and last time to the island. Verrik was the one who had interest in setting up the colony on Temute.

According to Dungeon #114's writings on the Isle of Dread, the first non-Olman person recorded to discover the island was Rory Barbossa from the Great Kingdom in 565 cy (-31 years). Rory was funded by the Seekers, to which Larissa and Verrik also belonged. So Verrik himself may have never been to Temute Island before the colony trip, and they may have gotten all of the information on the island from the Seekers.

Though it still wouldn't be out of place that they surveryed the islands sometime before that to find a suitable colony space.

Hope that helps.

Bob

Ah, I disagree that Larissa's only trip was the founding of Farshore, based on the following passage from Dungeon 143, page 61.

"...those who attempted to use Barbarosa's journals to find the Isle of Dread found the undertaking exceedingly difficult, and many ships were lost in the attempt. Until, that is, Captain "Mad" Madsen Atirr, one of Barbarosa's original crewmen, braved the southern waters again in his infamous ship, the Morningstar. In the process, he created the first accurate seacharts to the Isle of Dread.
Accompanying Atirr was an adventurous young woman named Larissa Iomundi, who became one of only a few to own a copy of this highly prized map."

She visited the island before meeting Verik Vanderboren. She did, not Verik. Verik's first trip was the one that founded Farshore.


Good catch. However, the quoted text implies there were many years between Barbarossa's visit and Larissa's with Madsen Atirr. And if Larissa was 18 in 569, she would be 45 in 596, at the time of her death. If Lavinia is about 20 at the beginning of the AP, we can say she was born circa 576. In that case, Larissa could have made the trip with Capt. Atirr as late as 574 or so.


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Yes, very good catch, Kain.

It's funny that one of the hooks for the adventure in Dungeon #114 was to join Captain "Mad" Madsen Atirr on his return voyage to the isle.

Though Peruhain, Lavinia was a few months away from turning 23 when her parents died, because 23 is the age when they were going to introduce her to the Seekers, as that is the age of initiation for them.

Oh, and also add:
596 -3 months: Brissa is commissioned by Rowyn for a painting. Rowyn meets Vanthus through Brissa and begins an affair.


So that means the latest possible date for Larissa Vanderboren's first visit to the IOD with Madsen Atirr is about 572, and 569 (the date Kain suggested) is also quite plausible. That suggests that "many years" between Barbarossa's visit and Atirr's is a bit of hyperbole. Of course, one could easily alter the chronology to push Barbarossa's visit much earlier, say circa CY 550, without causing any major problems--just a minor inconsistency with the Dungeon 114 write-up. Or we could change the Seekers' age of initiation to 18 or 20 and make Lavinia a little younger.

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