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Osirion

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Gruumash . wrote:
You don't think Peyton Manning is a premier draw for the NFL? I think all you need to look at is all the advertising he does.

Oh, he is a draw. But I was coming from the angle of them "taking him out". When you've been in the NFL as long as he has, and taken the hits he has, every tackle you take is a big risk. But even if he were to stop playing tomorrow, he'd still be a big draw for the NFL, just not as big as when being a player.

Gotta say, I look forward to seeing him play in Denver. Should be interesting to see how that team improves with such an awesome player.

Osirion

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Robert Hawkshaw wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Does anyone actually like the Pats? Other than Gruumash, I mean. And maybe Brady's family. And that weird guy a few cubicles down from me.
I like the Pats. But I'm also a Canucks fan so...

Gaah! You like....Canadians?

Taldor

The Vancouver Canucks, don't you get hockey down in New Orleans? I'm sure there's an expansion team somewhere around there... Ahh, you guys had a farm team The New Orleans Brass for a while!

Osirion

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Robert Hawkshaw wrote:
The Vancouver Canucks, don't you get hockey down in New Orleans? I'm sure there's an expansion team somewhere around there... Ahh, you guys had a farm team The New Orleans Brass for a while!

Yeah, I know it was hockey. I was just messing with you. And yes, they did have some kind of hockey team down there. It was very popular for awhile. Not sure what ever happened to it.


Don't count me out. I'm still going to get my Super Bowl ring.

Serious as Dick Cheney's heart attacks.

-ett
Rev 3:16

Cheliax

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Aberzombie wrote:
Gruumash . wrote:
You don't think Peyton Manning is a premier draw for the NFL? I think all you need to look at is all the advertising he does.

Oh, he is a draw. But I was coming from the angle of them "taking him out". When you've been in the NFL as long as he has, and taken the hits he has, every tackle you take is a big risk. But even if he were to stop playing tomorrow, he'd still be a big draw for the NFL, just not as big as when being a player.

Gotta say, I look forward to seeing him play in Denver. Should be interesting to see how that team improves with such an awesome player.

I am not looking forward to the possibilty of playing that team but I won't mind watching him play and more than likely if healthy he will do alot ot help that team move to the next level.

I am looking forward to crushing the Colts this year again. As I doubt Andrew Luck will make a huge difference this year.

I am also looking forward to watching the Patriots play and they look like they have gotten better on offense and we'll see what they do in the draft and another year of the at defense gelling and watching Brandon Spikes giving them a nasty edge.

Ah football season can't come soon enough.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I personally think that the Manning brothers are two of the better QBs ever to play the game, right up there with Montana, Favre, Marino, Elway, Brees, and (yes) Brady, among others.

I'm patient about the football season starting. While I think the Saints will do well enough, my big concern is college ball.

I'm still pissed at LSU for blowing the National Championship against Bama. Not sure if I even want to watch their games, and I'm usually loving me some college ball all around. Still, I look forward to the SEC most likely continuing its dominance. So there's at least something to look forward to.


Aberzombie wrote:
I'm still pissed at LSU for blowing the National Championship against Bama. Not sure if I even want to watch their games, and I'm usually loving me some college ball all around. Still, I look forward to the SEC most likely continuing its dominance. So there's at least something to look forward to.

Not a fan of SEC football (grew up in Virginia so I favor the Hokies), but I was praying LSU would stomp the stuffings out of the Roll Tide and you're right, they just blew it. A couple of years ago, when the Hokies blew the Orange Bowl, I stopping sporting their shirts and jersey for a year. Felt stupid, but I did it just because.

Been a Colts fan for 40+ years, so naturally I was bummed that Peyton couldn't finish his career in Indy. Was hoping he would land with Arizona or San Fran. Not a huge Denver fan, but will still support him. I'm definitely a fan of the Manning family, and yes, Aber, as a boy I was fan of that ol' Saints QB Archie Manning.
Was tickled pink to see Eli get his second Super Bowl win over the Patsies. I was dreading ESPN coverage for the Spring and how much ball-licking Brady was gonna get for being the "greatest QB ever" - the nausea in Chris Collingsworthless' voice as the Patsies failed on that last drive, made my football season!
Ducks as Gruumash hurls a bar stool!


Are you all talking about what you colonials laughably call 'football'? As opposed to what the rest of the world calls football.

Newcastle United forever!


Elinor Knutsdottir wrote:


Are you all talking about what you colonials laughably call 'football'? As opposed to what the rest of the world calls football.

Newcastle United forever!

I understand your laughter. Given you're a soccer fan, it's either that or cry.

Osirion

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hedgeknight wrote:
Not a fan of SEC football (grew up in Virginia so I favor the Hokies), but I was praying LSU would stomp the stuffings out of the Roll Tide and you're right, they just blew it. A couple of years ago, when the Hokies blew the Orange Bowl, I stopping sporting their shirts and jersey for a year. Felt stupid, but I did it just because.

I've been loving me some SEC football for years, especially with how dominant they've been. Truthfully, I just love college football as a whole. I've often thought it's far more competitive and entertaining that the pros. If only they'd go to a playoff system.....

I'll more than likely end up watching any LSU games that come on, simply because many of them ARE broadcast. Even when they're making me frustrated, I usually enjoy watching.

hedgeknight wrote:
Was tickled pink to see Eli get his second Super Bowl win over the Patsies.

I've often thought that Eli gets too many knocks for not being Peyton. While Peyton's throwing is more accurate, I think Eli might be slightly better at analyzing the field while it's in play. Either way, though, I also enjoyed seeing him get his second ring. And that was a very good super bowl. Those close ones usually are, in my opinion.


Close Superbowls are always a fun game to watch. The blow-out Superbowls become Adbowls.

Granted, a good Adbowl is also a lot of fun, doing something else until the next run of ads come on the air. Some times you see an ad that is never repeated, often times the ads aired during the Adbowls are the only time that ad will be shown at full length until perhaps about late November or early December.

Qadira

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7778005/gregg-williams-tol d-new-orleans-saints-hurt-san-francisco-49ers-speech

Thoughts:

1. I wonder if criminal charges can be brought up.

2. The Saints are meanies.

3. I can't believe anyone would ever support the Saints again. Unless perhaps there was some real penance going on. Everyone in the organization fired. Appeals dropped. Full-page ad from owner apologizing and committing to do the right thing, etc.

Winning shouldn't be prioritized over integrity.

Edit: Maybe not everyone in the organization should be fired...I'm sure the team accountant is probably innocent. But fire anyone who heard anything like this and who didn't speak up in some way, to include coaches and players.


Football is a rough sport, the people that play it are tough, they hit hard and expect to be hit hard. I don't have a problem with what Gregg Williamns said in that audio and I am willing to bet that a similar speech is given by all defensive coordinators.

If Brett favre and Kurt Warner did not have a problem with what happened why should anyone else?

The object of the game is to win, if you can win by laying a teams opposing players out, especially their best players, so much the better. Even without bounties defensive players will hit hard I doubt the money is that much more of an incentive, what is 10,000 to a guy who makes 500,000 or more?

Defensive players in the NFL used to clothesline people and hit people long after the whistle, anyone ever seen the clip of Jim McMahon get picked up and bodyslammed in a Bears-Packers game back in 86 or 87? I look it as assumption of the risk, they know the risks and they accept them or else they would not play.

If you don't want to risk concussions and broken bones go into another line of work that is less dangerous.

Qadira

Dennis Harry wrote:
The object of the game is to win,

For me personally, that's only my third priority for any sport or game (to include D&D). #1 is represent my organization and/or myself with class. #2 is to try to maximize the fun for both my team and the other team. Saints fail on 1 and 2. (Not that my priorities should be theirs.)


snobi wrote:
Dennis Harry wrote:
The object of the game is to win,

For me personally, that's only my third priority for any sport or game (to include D&D). #1 is represent my organization and/or myself with class. #2 is to try to maximize the fun for both my team and the other team. Saints fail on 1 and 2. (Not that my priorities should be theirs.)

Its too bad that more people don't think like you (in society in general!) but in pro sports (and probably at the college and high school levels) winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.

I don't see any other way to play football, its about hard hits, if it wasn't it it would be a different game. It might as well be flag football if you remove hitting. Even when a player does not mean to intentionally hurt someone when you are running at top speed into someone else at top speed injuries will occur.

Qadira

Dennis Harry wrote:
Its too bad that more people don't think like you (in society in general!) but in pro sports (and probably at the college and high school levels) winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.

I was at a JV softball game the other day and we were short a player, so the other team donated a player to play right field for us. The other team's pitcher was playing lights out (we were playing against a home-schooled team, which is always tough). The only two hits we got against her were from the donated player! lol. So she broke up her no-hitter and then added one more for good measure, going 2 for 2.

That's probably one of the better examples of winning not being everything...when you are actually trying to defeat your own team. :)

This would be another.

Edit: Could you imagine the Red Sox donating a player to the Yankees?

Osirion

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snobi wrote:
2. The Saints are meanies.

Along with practically every other NFL team, if this is how you judge being a "meanie".

snobi wrote:
3. I can't believe anyone would ever support the Saints again. Unless perhaps there was some real penance going on. Everyone in the organization fired. Appeals dropped. Full-page ad from owner apologizing and committing to do the right thing, etc.

I can, and will support the team again. I've supported the team most of my life, and won't stop now just because a few players/coaches were foolish enough to offer and/or accept money for injuries. Otherwise, it's just rough/aggressive play, which is usually encouraged as a path to victory.

snobi wrote:
Winning shouldn't be prioritized over integrity.

This is professional football. The entire goal is to win. That's the business model that continues to make them money.

snobi wrote:
But fire anyone who heard anything like this and who didn't speak up in some way, to include coaches and players.

And would you say that every team which participated in something similar should suffer the same fate? Because that would be a lot of people out of jobs.


Great video.

Qadira

Aberzombie wrote:
This is professional football. The entire goal is to win. That's the business model that continues to make them money.

So if God descended from the clouds (sorry, I know some people hate these crazy what-ifs) and on national TV offered the Saints owner an undefeated season (to include playoffs) in exchange for the sacrifice of a few babies, and the owner accepted and murdered 5 babies live on national TV, do you think that would help or hurt profits? Or is it only okay to lack integrity if nobody notices?

snobi wrote:
And would you say that every team which participated in something similar should suffer the same fate? Because that would be a lot of people out of jobs.

Yep.


runs naked through the thread

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
snobi wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
This is professional football. The entire goal is to win. That's the business model that continues to make them money.

So if God descended from the clouds (sorry, I know some people hate these crazy what-ifs) and on national TV offered the Saints owner an undefeated season (to include playoffs) in exchange for the sacrifice of a few babies, and the owner accepted and murdered 5 babies live on national TV, do you think that would help or hurt profits? Or is it only okay to lack integrity if nobody notices?

Of course not. That's an idiotic analogy. I prefer to live in the real world. Integrity doesn't always put food on the table. People in business make sacrifices all the time to get ahead and/or succeed. Sometimes that might be giving up a bit of what other people may see as integrity. If they don't want to do that, then they shouldn't be there. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's the way it is.


Aberzombie wrote:
If only they'd go to a playoff system.....

At the end of last season, the word was it was already being discussed. Oh...please...God!

Towel-whips a naked Spartroll as he dashes by!

Football is a business at the end of the day, and winning is everything in the eyes of most owners (I'd venture to say all of them!). However, compromising integrity to do so is $#!++y and shouldn't go unpunished...and in this case, at least, it won't. Heaven forbid if the Colts did something similar, I'd be embarrassed and angry, but once the discipline had be doled out, I'd get behind the new coach/GM/whoever and cheer them on.

Osirion

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hedgeknight wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
If only they'd go to a playoff system.....

At the end of last season, the word was it was already being discussed. Oh...please...God!

Both the SEC and ACC have presents viable playoff systems, and both were rejected. Sad.

hedgeknight wrote:


Football is a business at the end of the day, and winning is everything in the eyes of most owners (I'd venture to say all of them!). However, compromising integrity to do so is $#!++y and shouldn't go unpunished...and in this case, at least, it won't. Heaven forbid if the Colts did something similar, I'd be embarrassed and angry, but once the discipline had be doled out, I'd get behind the new coach/GM/whoever and cheer them on.

To true.

Qadira

Aberzombie wrote:
That's an idiotic analogy.
Dude who released the recording wrote:
If it weren't for the fact I feel deeply that parents of children playing football MUST pay attention to the influence of men who will sacrifice their kids for W's, I would not have written this.

Didn't see that quote until this morning. Wasn't that far off! ;)

Osirion

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I can't help but think the "sacrifice" the reporter talking about is a far cry from....

Snobi wrote:
God descended from the clouds and on national TV offered an undefeated season (to include playoffs) in exchange for the sacrifice of a few babies, and the owner accepted and murdered 5 babies live on national TV....

Since, as far as I know, most coaches don't keep sacrificial altar's in the locker rooms.

But then again, as previously stated, I prefer to live in the real world.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

Are you sure about that? I would have thought you would have mentioned the rumor about Bill and his altar ;)

Qadira

Murder (which the Saints espouse) is murder, whether at an altar or on the field.


I thought Saints were martyrs....


Meat is murder too ... Tasty, tasty murder.


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Now we just need a link to Tony Bourdain biting into something and exclaiming...

"Mmmm. Tastes like it died screaming."

Osirion

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Gruumash . wrote:
Are you sure about that? I would have thought you would have mentioned the rumor about Bill and his altar ;)

What? My boss? Well, I have always wondered how he got into his current position......


Throw the book at em Dano. Those horrid Saints are Murderers, string them up or fry them.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Mmmmmmm.....stir fry.

Damnit! Now I'm hungry again.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

Coopers BBQ yummmmmmm. New Orleans BBQ shrimp and some Blackened Vodoo to wash it down.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I actually picked up a six pack of Blackened Voodoo a week ago. Good stuff.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

Good story too having made a come back after Katrina. I remember drinking it when I was younger in me college days. They actually have it at Not Your Average Joe's of all places.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I removed some posts that contained personal attacks and the replies to them.


No one should be all that surprised if they have heard high school coaches speak. When I tried out for the junior varsity team years ago the coach was trying to fire the players up by loudly asking them "What makes the green grass grow?"

The answer was "Blood! Blood makes the green grass grow!"

The mentality starts early, people.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

R. Lee Ermy probably never thought he'd inspire so many motivational speeches with his performance in Full Metal Jacket.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Well, apparently LSU has decided on their starting QB - Zach Mettenberger. He's a 6'5", 222 lb junior. After last season's disappointments at the position, I think almost anything would be an improvement.


Dayyum.


Wow, rest in peace Junior Seau? It's from TMZ, so I'm not sure how much it should be trusted.

Osirion

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Jam412 wrote:
Wow, rest in peace Junior Seau? It's from TMZ, so I'm not sure how much it should be trusted.

Yeah, I noticed the headline elsewhere. Poor dude. R.I.P.

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