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4ges & 4mians?Wonders & Oni (1-ders & 1-i)
... I know, I know.
How about 2mbs & 2ns?
3nches & 3flings?
[Runs for cover]
Seriously - a year ago the Pathfinder name was "enh" - now I'd never give it up.
5tions and 5taurs? ok, so you have to use the french word "cinq" for five, and it's kinda forced and i don't know what sanctions would have to do with gaming, but i don't see any better suggestions for "5"!
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I knew I was going to get trampled for saying 'passive voice' by the Strunk & Wagnalls-crowd. Mea culpa.
If one finds a path, it suggests that it was already there and it was merely stumbled across.
Blazing a trail is pro-active.
Let the new round of rip-it-to-shreds begin.
To find is active voice.
To be found is passive voice.To blaze is active voice.
To be blazed is passive voice.
Pro-active has nothing to do with the voice of a verb.
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Pathfinder is in the passive voice, whereas Trailblazers is in the active voice.How is the word "Pathfinder" passive voice?
I think what Kyrinn means is that "finding a path" seems more passive than "blazing a trail." However they ultimately mean the same thing, so it's of relative little concern.
Of greater concern is that Wulf Ratbane has already published OGL 3.5 material under the name "Trailblazer RPG," which means that Paizo would basically be stepping on a legal landmine if they adopted the name.
I am 100% behind the name Pathfinder. I think it is properly evocative, distinctive, and easy to put on a t-shirt. I'd find it bland if the game was named "Fantasy Something" and I'd find it dumb if it was "Alliteration & Alligators".
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Well, there you go. A bit of RPG trivia that escaped me. Kudos. So are we back to Pathfinder, or do the gurus here have a better suggestion? :DPathfinder is in the passive voice, whereas Trailblazers is in the active voice.How is the word "Pathfinder" passive voice?I think what Kyrinn means is that "finding a path" seems more passive than "blazing a trail." However they ultimately mean the same thing, so it's of relative little concern.
Of greater concern is that Wulf Ratbane has already published OGL 3.5 material under the name "Trailblazer RPG," which means that Paizo would basically be stepping on a legal landmine if they adopted the name.
I am 100% behind the name Pathfinder. I think it is properly evocative, distinctive, and easy to put on a t-shirt. I'd find it bland if the game was named "Fantasy Something" and I'd find it dumb if it was "Alliteration & Alligators".
Well I highly doubt they're gonna change it regardless of what we say, so i think all the suggestions thus far have been in the nature of fun, where the majority of them aren't to be taken seriously. if you want to try your hand, we were doing it with numbers replacing syllables and I managed to do one for "5". see if you can do "6". It'd be awesome if we could get all the way to "10". maybe then Veector would deign it to have its own thread.
Call a spade a spade. 3.75E.
Three pages and still no one has suggested Papers and Paychecks? I would just like to voice my disappointment at that.
As an aside, why all the hate for the Pathfinder movie? I enjoy it for the brutality - yes, the same sort of brutality found in the epic barbarian movies that Erik Mona insists are an outdated relic of the '80s ;-) (a sentiment that I disagree with because I happen to enjoy those outdated barbarian movies from the '80s).
Call a spade a spade. 3.75E.
I remember when 3.5 was released, Monte Cook wrote a review where he said that some of the changes made were larger than what you would typically expect from a revision and fell more in line with the types of changes that you would expect to see with a new edition. Now, the Pathfinder RPG certainly builds upon the 3.5 rule set, but I feel that the same reasoning Monte applied (which I happen to agree with) suggests that this is not a partial edition change. If you consider the unbroken path that is 1E --> 2E--> 3E -- 3.5 --> Pathfinder, then Pathfinder is a new edition of the game. Because the changes are many and dramatic, I feel that it qualifies as a new edition; it just happens to be one that maintains backwards compatibility, much like there is between 2E and 1E.
I was disappointed not to see the inclusion of Ziggurats in the "Z" entry, but I don't think it will drive me to 4e :)
-Z
Well, "Ziggurats & Zombies" was my first choice for a Z name, but I was beaten to the punch.
Easy.
Dung30nz & Dr4g0nz :D
But seriously, I quite like the Pathfinder name. I think it suits the whole product line well.
Ladysmith Black Mambazo.
I have to confess, I don't care much for the name Pathfinder for the game system either. While I can see the conotations with the adventure serieses, it doesn't evoke any sort of mood about the game itself or even accurately describe what it's about.
If it were mine, though, I'd have called it something involving "Legacy" or somesuch.
I also believe it's too late for them to consider changing it so I'm not putting a whole lot of worry behind it.
Golarion.
I will name him George.
I will name him George.
Classic. Just classic.
Actually, it's a buck-and-quarter quarter staff, but I'm not tellin' him that...
Actually you guys aren't far off.
I saw a preview of the next Classic Monsters Revisited at GenCon and it's titled Innnnnteresting Monsters.
As much as I love the name Pathfinder, I just have to accept that it may take others some time. So, I just gotta ask, Art thou feeling it now?
Link.
And I would so buy INNNteresting Monsters.
Perhaps it has nothing to do with the English language? :D
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Perhaps it has nothing to do with the English language? :D
i want to havea bit of faith in other roleplayers intelligence :P
its that to much to hope for?
also for us non-native speakers... i do believe would not relate the term to indiands... if its just prejudice... jump over it :P
and i know you like the name :P just ranting
Perhaps it has nothing to do with the English language? :Di want to havea bit of faith in other roleplayers intelligence :P
its that to much to hope for?
also for us non-native speakers... i do believe would not relate the term to indiands... if its just prejudice... jump over it :P
and i know you like the name :P just ranting
Hey, I left myself nice and vague, but if *you* want to rant, why then, be my guest!
I like Pathfinder because in a way it paves the way for a new grounds & such, epically when it first came out. Now with the rules & all the campaign books out, it really works.
Haldir! Hello! How've you been? I haven't seen you since way before 4e came out![/offtopic]
I've been so immersed in reading the Beta that I only just came back to the real world ... how about:
the Chuck Norris of RPG's?
Paths & Phasms
It has the Path, the '&' , the matching monster and even the cool ring to it!!!!! :) Perfect!! :P
OSRIC, Castles & Crusades (Gary's last bit with Castle Zagyg), True20, and several others also strive to stay afloat in the Sea of Anachronism. They have some great ideas. Paizo is already selling 4E stuff on this very site, in any event. They will also cheerfully sell this new retro 3.5 system to PATHFINDER fans and those who can be freed from the PATH of 4E that we'll FIND on the major bookstore shelves for years to come.
Wait, never mind - I've GOT it; the new name should be:
This allows an infinite number of revisions without ever needing new editions! 3.1 -> 3.14 -> 3.141 -> 3.141592653589793238 etc. Joy of Pi
Had enough yet? I've downloaded it all and bought the Beta 2 Playtest hard copy already. See you in the design forum!