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Well I'm going bye now


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Taldor

I just wanted to say how dissapointed I am with Pathfinder that I am going to cancel all products since if this isn't made exactly to fulfill my tastes then no product you ever make can be of any use to me. Now I'm going to list the various reasons you should care that I am no longer going to be using this system.

1) it doesn't change enough to warrant being called a new edition, seriously why am I shelling out 50 bucks to buy something that still has vancian magic, itterative attacks and skill points

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things, barbarian rage points, rogue magic, skill ranks, now I have to do all this conversion work if I want to play any of my modules, I'm not even going to try and playtest this because I can see how hard it's going to be.

3) High level play takes too long, in my 3rd level 4e game combat takes us about 30 minutes to an hour, so I know that when my party hits 26th level combat will be the exact same.

4) You haven't done anything to fix the fighter, I can't even play it because I see that it still will suck at higher levels despite all the extra feats and bonuses. I can tell just by looking that this fixes nothing because I am so intuitive when looking at gaming systems that I can automatically detect how anything will play out, why you haven't hired me to replace Jason yet is beyond me.

5) You haven't balanced the classes at all, go ahead and go to the 4th ed forums, all the char ops people agree that every class is perfectly balanced and that every power is properly leveled and there are no obvious power choices. Until you manage to make 3rd as balanced as 4th I don't see any reason to play or buy any product from you because like I said if I don't like your RPG then your game mastery products, your planet stories line, your 3rd party gaming sales, none of it will suit me.

I just wanted to let you know all this because since I'm leaving I figured it was very important to take up thread space so that everyone can argue over my opinions, which I totally will not come back to look at because a post like this deserves discussion and I don't really just want to see what people think of my opinion. And it is totally reasonable to post that you don't care about what people think of your opinion because if it were true why would you bother to post in the first place, because that's not a hypocritical position at all.


;-)

Seriously, I wouldn't mind seeing a moratorium on threads that say:

"I'm leaving...FOREVER!! Don't try to change my mind, folks, I'm a-goin' and NEVER COMING BACK!!"

Cheliax

Made me laugh. With the almost unbearable heat that's around here since a couple of weeks, it's quite a result. :D

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Seriously, what's going on with the "I'm taking my ball and going home" threads here lately?

Whatever happened to leaving with a little dignity? Maybe even a "hey this product isn't for me" or "thanks, but no thanks."

Are you so egocentric that you think 99.9% or people here will notice or even care that you've left in a huff? (And I mean "you" as in "all these I'm leaving" posts.)

Call the Whaaaaaambulance already.

-Skeld

EDIT: I didn't get it at first, but good one. I was thinking just this morning about posting something like this.

Paizo Employee Developer

F$#~ this! I'm outta here.

Spoiler:
Ooh, don't make it obvious, but check...are they looking at me? Did they notice?

Taldor

I like how the first gripe is that there is not enough change, which is then followed up immediately by the complaint that there is too much change.

I've never understood why people need to declare their leaving from Internet forums.

The Internet is too weird a place sometimes...

So... does that mean there are no knights left, now?

EDIT: Oh, I see what you did there.


If everyone are heroes, there would never be anyone on the side of the road to clap.

Good time for my welcome back thread I suppose.


bye *waves*


Daigle wrote:

f*&# this! I'm outta here.

** spoiler omitted **

Oh yeah? Well, I'm not just quitting the forum, I'm also boxing up all my Paizo and WotC books and mailing it back to the companies. Then I'm going to print out every reply everyone has ever made to me, write "I did not read this" on it, and mail it back to the person who posted it.

Then I'm going to start a new account under a different name.

Taldor

I'm not the OP, I'm the OPs roomate, I just wanted to say that I totally agree with my roomate who isn't me and all you guys who are disagreeing with my non-me roomate are just foolish.

BTW this is not the OP this is the OPs roomate, which is completely true and you have plenty of ways of checking on this so there is absolutely no reason to doubt the validity of this claim, I just don't want to take the time to make a screename when I can totally just use this account since he isn't going to use it anymore. If i had a sig I'd declare that I was the roomate, but since paizo can't seem to take the time to give us sigs, which we totally have rights to have and should take umbridge that this company is wasting all this time not supporting 4e when they could be giving us sigs.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Is it bad that I can't tell if this is satire or not?

Taldor

Ross Byers wrote:
Is it bad that I can't tell if this is satire or not?

Yes it is

PS this is the completely serious roomate, not the OP

Trey wrote:
Daigle wrote:

f*&# this! I'm outta here.

** spoiler omitted **

Oh yeah? Well, I'm not just quitting the forum, I'm also boxing up all my Paizo and WotC books and mailing it back to the companies. Then I'm going to print out every reply everyone has ever made to me, write "I did not read this" on it, and mail it back to the person who posted it.

Then I'm going to start a new account under a different name.

My roomate has allready done all of the above, except for the last one cause he is totally not checking up to see what people think of his posts


Pretty funny lastkinghtleft ;)


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
lastknightleft wrote:

I just wanted to say how dissapointed I am with Pathfinder that I am going to cancel all products since if this isn't made exactly to fulfill my tastes then no product you ever make can be of any use to me. Now I'm going to list the various reasons you should care that I am no longer going to be using this system.

1) it doesn't change enough to warrant being called a new edition, seriously why am I shelling out 50 bucks to buy something that still has vancian magic, itterative attacks and skill points

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things, barbarian rage points, rogue magic, skill ranks, now I have to do all this conversion work if I want to play any of my modules, I'm not even going to try and playtest this because I can see how hard it's going to be.

3) High level play takes too long, in my 3rd level 4e game combat takes us about 30 minutes to an hour, so I know that when my party hits 26th level combat will be the exact same.

4) You haven't done anything to fix the fighter, I can't even play it because I see that it still will suck at higher levels despite all the extra feats and bonuses. I can tell just by looking that this fixes nothing because I am so intuitive when looking at gaming systems that I can automatically detect how anything will play out, why you haven't hired me to replace Jason yet is beyond me.

5) You haven't balanced the classes at all, go ahead and go to the 4th ed forums, all the char ops people agree that every class is perfectly balanced and that every power is properly leveled and there are no obvious power choices. Until you manage to make 3rd as balanced as 4th I don't see any reason to play or buy any product from you because like I said if I don't like your RPG then your game mastery products, your planet stories line, your 3rd party gaming sales, none of it will suit me.

I just wanted to let you know all this because since I'm leaving I figured it was very important to take up thread space so that everyone can argue over my opinions,...

Turns head at the sound of Sarcasm & Satire claxons going off...

Reads post...

<Clapping of hands>

Now here's hoping the temper tantrum crowd will read it, but even if they do, I doubt they'll get it.


lastknightleft wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Is it bad that I can't tell if this is satire or not?

Yes it is

PS this is the completely serious roomate, not the OP

Trey wrote:
Daigle wrote:

f*&# this! I'm outta here.

** spoiler omitted **

Oh yeah? Well, I'm not just quitting the forum, I'm also boxing up all my Paizo and WotC books and mailing it back to the companies. Then I'm going to print out every reply everyone has ever made to me, write "I did not read this" on it, and mail it back to the person who posted it.

Then I'm going to start a new account under a different name.

My roomate has allready done all of the above, except for the last one cause he is totally not checking up to see what people think of his posts

Wow, as a totally impartial outside observer with absolutely no connection to the posters, I have to say that lastknightleft and Trey probably have more integrity than anyone else around. We all could learn some serious lessons from them! Too bad they are completely not reading these boards anymore so that they can see how impressed we all are, right everyone?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

To the OP.

I think you are nothing but a penguin. There is no roommate. Just you smacking the keyboard with your beak, sitting on an egg, waiting for her to call you. You never were a knight. You just know fourteen ways to kill people with beak, flipper, and webbed foot. I see through your craven attempts to pass yourself off as a human Paizonite. You are not fooling me. I know an antarctic seabird when I see one.

Taldor

Corey Spondint wrote:
Wow, as a totally impartial outside observer with absolutely no connection to the posters, I have to say that lastknightleft and Trey probably have more integrity than anyone else around. We all could learn some serious lessons from them! Too bad they are completely not reading these boards anymore so that they can see how impressed we all are, right everyone?

Yeah it's a shame, any time I try to tell my roomate something from these boards he claps his hands over his ears and start sing/yelling la la la I'm not listening, my ego is not so large I have to constantly double check to see what posters are saying la la la. Maybe I'll trick him into getting your compliment though.


I agree. He is a penguin. We all saw the signs, didn't we?

Taldor

Taliesin Hoyle wrote:

To the OP.

I think you are nothing but a penguin. There is no roommate. Just you smacking the keyboard with your beak, sitting on an egg, waiting for her to call you. You never were a knight. You just know fourteen ways to kill people with beak, flipper, and webbed foot. I see through your craven attempts to pass yourself off as a human Paizonite. You are not fooling me. I know an antarctic seabird when I see one.

Hey, can't I know fourteen ways to kill someone with beak, flipper, and webbed foot, and sit on an egg without being a penguin?

This is still the roomate and not the OP


You and your roommate, get a room...
Oh wait... You've got one.
Rrriiight...
;)

Andoran RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16

I'm so sick of these posters saying that they don't like Pathfinder and they won't buy the books that I'm going to clone myself 100 times and have each clone post a lengthy thread on the boards declaring its undying devotion to Pathfinder RPG and all ancillary products. Each clone will buy their own copy of every Paizo product until the sun goes nova, and in addition, I will personally buy an extra copy of the Pathfinder RPG for each and every poster who has declared that they have quit the boards and hate PRPG. Furthermore, I will buy a like number of beta RPG books, and even alpha books, despite those being free. I will mail a check to paizo for $25 per alpha document I print to cover their alpha costs and to show these vocal PRPG quitters!

To ensure that I purchase the correct number of Pathfinder books (alpha, beta, and final), I implore all members of the board who plan on quitting but have not yet posted this information in a separate, dramatically titled thread to please stop lurking with your intentions and post such threads so I can get an accurate count.

President, Jon Brazer Enterprises

lastknightleft wrote:

1) it doesn't change enough

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things,

Anyone else see these as a contradiction?


DMcCoy1693 wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:

1) it doesn't change enough

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things,

Anyone else see these as a contradiction?

Not at all. There is absolutely nothing contradictory about the two statements. Also, everything I say means something else.

Taldor

DMcCoy1693 wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:

1) it doesn't change enough

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things,

Anyone else see these as a contradiction?

No not at all ?!? Where?

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THIS IS STILL THE ROOMATE!

Andoran

I find it hilarious when people say "It's not backward compatible. I have to make conversions to use my old stuff. I'm going to play 4th edition instead."

Paizo Employee Developer

[Insert Neat Username Here] wrote:
I find it hilarious when people say "It's not backward compatible. I have to make conversions to use my old stuff. I'm going to play 4th edition instead."

Agreed.

Taldor

yoda8myhead wrote:
[Insert Neat Username Here] wrote:
I find it hilarious when people say "It's not backward compatible. I have to make conversions to use my old stuff. I'm going to play 4th edition instead."
Agreed.

Agreed.

Oh yeah and I am not the OP I don't know if I've made that clear yet?

Andoran

This isn't heathansson, this is his pappy.

I want them to make one soyonara thread please, and everybody who's leaving for real can say auf wiedersehen there.

Andoran

I'm gonna delete that! Getcher own avatar, pappy!
(this IS heathansson)

Andoran

I ain't neither!

(Pappy!)


Freak


Haha.

I have two accounts.

Qadira

lastknightleft wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
[Insert Neat Username Here] wrote:
I find it hilarious when people say "It's not backward compatible. I have to make conversions to use my old stuff. I'm going to play 4th edition instead."
Agreed.

Agreed.

Oh yeah and I am not the OP I don't know if I've made that clear yet?

I don't think some people are getting it. They are too blinded by anger to actually read the spoofing that is going on....

Very funny though LastKnightleft.

Andoran

It ain't funny!
Who you callin a freak?
(pappy)

Andoran

Pappy! Whya go in ruint all my fun.

(edit: Pappy, a'talkin to his pappy).


JoelF847,
Right now I am still on the fence about pathfinder, but if the fanaticism, and snarkyness gets on my nerves as much as it did with 4th edition, and I just decide to stay with 3.5, I promise to let you know. But question, do I have to post on a separate dramatically titled thread? Usually if I feel out of place at a forum, I just leave, but I really don’t want Paizo to lose any money because of me. If I just send you an PM instead, can you still buy all the pathfinder stuff. Anyway let me know.

Taldor

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Card Game, Cards, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

and people call me a dithering fool...

Andoran

Yes, it's customary for everybody who leaves to start their own thread.


That's cool.

Then the regulars keep it alive all week.

Andoran

You think you're funny, until dramatis personae becomes self aware and invests your bank account in porkbellies.

Taldor

Fake Healer wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
[Insert Neat Username Here] wrote:
I find it hilarious when people say "It's not backward compatible. I have to make conversions to use my old stuff. I'm going to play 4th edition instead."
Agreed.

Agreed.

Oh yeah and I am not the OP I don't know if I've made that clear yet?

I don't think some people are getting it. They are too blinded by anger to actually read the spoofing that is going on....

Very funny though LastKnightleft.

Get what? that was my roomates post and it is entirely serious, the only reason that there is still a subscriber tag above the name is that paizo is so glitchy they haven't caught up to all his cancellations. I'm sure it'll go away any minute now.

Qadira

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

I'm off too - I'm not going to bother with Pathfinder, it's too like 4e. I'm going to play 4e instead.

(Though arguably I should have started my own thread too. Sheesh, people are going to think I'm a loser now. Well, more of a loser.)


So, did I win? What are the coin thingies?

Qadira

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

You have to use your daily power "Put the Money in the Slot". Assuming it doesn't bust the suspension of disbelief. In which case, get a wizard to cast Detect Magic, because that is much more realistic.

Taldor

Hudak wrote:
So, did I win? What are the coin thingies?

Huh?


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
You have to use your daily power "Put the Money in the Slot". Assuming it doesn't bust the suspension of disbelief. In which case, get a wizard to cast Detect Magic, because that is much more realistic.

Does drinking the hagfish water give me any benefits in 4e?

Cheliax

lastknightleft wrote:
I just wanted to let you know all this because since I'm leaving I figured it was very important to take up thread space so that everyone can argue over my opinions,...

Ah, a troll joke. Thread's irrelevant. Carry on.


lastknightleft wrote:

I just wanted to say how dissapointed I am with Pathfinder that I am going to cancel all products since if this isn't made exactly to fulfill my tastes then no product you ever make can be of any use to me. Now I'm going to list the various reasons you should care that I am no longer going to be using this system.

1) it doesn't change enough to warrant being called a new edition, seriously why am I shelling out 50 bucks to buy something that still has vancian magic, itterative attacks and skill points

2) it's not backwards compatable, you've changed too many things, barbarian rage points, rogue magic, skill ranks, now I have to do all this conversion work if I want to play any of my modules, I'm not even going to try and playtest this because I can see how hard it's going to be.

3) High level play takes too long, in my 3rd level 4e game combat takes us about 30 minutes to an hour, so I know that when my party hits 26th level combat will be the exact same.

4) You haven't done anything to fix the fighter, I can't even play it because I see that it still will suck at higher levels despite all the extra feats and bonuses. I can tell just by looking that this fixes nothing because I am so intuitive when looking at gaming systems that I can automatically detect how anything will play out, why you haven't hired me to replace Jason yet is beyond me.

5) You haven't balanced the classes at all, go ahead and go to the 4th ed forums, all the char ops people agree that every class is perfectly balanced and that every power is properly leveled and there are no obvious power choices. Until you manage to make 3rd as balanced as 4th I don't see any reason to play or buy any product from you because like I said if I don't like your RPG then your game mastery products, your planet stories line, your 3rd party gaming sales, none of it will suit me.

I just wanted to let you know all this because since I'm leaving I figured it was very important to take up thread space so that everyone can argue over my opinions,...

Me thinks this chap works for WoTC....silly shill.


Funny stuff lkl...the serious one, not the crappy roommate. ;)


I'm so used to seeing these petty complaints from people who are SERIOUS about them, I was halfway through the first post before I got the joke. Well played.

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