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Any plans for a Pathfinder compilation?


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I've been reading a lotta good things about the first pathfinder arc of adventure books, just curious if there are any plans to make some sort of hardbound mega compilation or anything. I'd be keen on buying something like that, though I'm sorta thinking the market might be small for it eh?


At this time and in the foreseeable future, the answer from up above is NO!. Sorry to dissapoint you on that.

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Sharoth wrote:
At this time and in the foreseeable future, the answer from up above is NO!. Sorry to dissapoint you on that.

It's cool, just means I have more incentive to peek at the new arc when it starts!

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Aaron Gomez wrote:
I've been reading a lotta good things about the first pathfinder arc of adventure books, just curious if there are any plans to make some sort of hardbound mega compilation or anything. I'd be keen on buying something like that, though I'm sorta thinking the market might be small for it eh?

No plans; Rise of the Runelords and all of the adventure path arcs in Pathfinder's series are not going to be compiled into a mega hardcover edition any time soon.


Aaron Gomez wrote:
I'd be keen on buying something like that, though I'm sorta thinking the market might be small for it eh?

Actually, their reasoning has been that many would prefer their adventure paths in one book rather than 6, so many would wait for the hardcovers. That would mean that not enough people would buy the monthly softcovers, the thing would tank, and there would not be a hardcover in the first place.

Nice little time travel paradox there, without a time machine, but with a tanked line. I'd rather not have those (both tanked pathfinders and time travel paradoxes. Man, I hate those paradoxes. And time travel. Not because you become your own father or something - a well-balanced family can deal with that - but because you never know what tense to use. It is in your future, but happened in the past. So do I use future past? Past future? Or when last week, I made a trip into the future, one week from now. Did I do anything there? Will I be doing anything there? Will I have been doing? Will I have been having done anyhting? It breaks the mind!)

Liberty's Edge

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Of course the compilations could one day come, you know in a year or three after an AP finished. Say Paizo decided to put Rise of the Ruinlords out of print. They could replace the six books with a compilation, easier to restock and reorder. But I wouldn't hold my breath for that.


So the stuff invested in may have some value as a limited print run.... hmmm.


Buy the pdfs and print them/have them printed and bound together. Voila your compilation. If you want it cheap, print b&w and use a folder. I will probably do this to keep my books nice and pristine during play (so that I can also take notes during play).

Grand Lodge

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I would think part of the value and desire for bound AP's from Dungeon was to make a book full of only the adventure path and related material. You get rid of the ads, unrelated articles and adventures, and have a book wholly dedicated to the storyline you intend to go with including support articles that were in Dragon. So you condense 24 magazines to 1 book.

It seems like Pathfinder as is already does all these things for you. The only advantage you'd get by making a hardbound edition is durability. Six volumes instead of one also has the advantage of keeping your table reference smaller and should result in less page flipping during play.

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ithuriel wrote:

I would think part of the value and desire for bound AP's from Dungeon was to make a book full of only the adventure path and related material. You get rid of the ads, unrelated articles and adventures, and have a book wholly dedicated to the storyline you intend to go with including support articles that were in Dragon. So you condense 24 magazines to 1 book.

It seems like Pathfinder as is already does all these things for you. The only advantage you'd get by making a hardbound edition is durability. Six volumes instead of one also has the advantage of keeping your table reference smaller and should result in less page flipping during play.

Correct. Also; recompiling the APs from the magazines gets them onto sturdier paper. Magazine paper is flimsy, and magazines themselves don't last nearly as long as a book. With Pathfinder, we don't have to use the flimsy paper.

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Hence why it'd make more sense for them to wait a year or longer to do compilations (if they were ever to do them.) Give us time to really beat up our collections and be interested in replacing the whole thing.

Where as if Burnt Offerings gets beat up, we're more likely to just wait until it's literally falling apart to rebuy it... if we even think we'll need it again.

I could see Rise of the Runelord getting a reprint as part of a 5 year anniversary or something, but I doubt that'll happen since the editions are changing.


SirUrza wrote:
the editions are changing.

Unless I've missed something, the editions aren't necessarily changing for Pathfinder.

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KaeYoss wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
the editions are changing.
Unless I've missed something, the editions aren't necessarily changing for Pathfinder.

I think it's inevitable. If Paizo doesn't switch over this year, they will in a year when 3.5 has starved itself into abandonment. I really doubt the GSL limits what Paizo wants to do, I believe it'll limit people like Monte Cook and Green Ronin from creating alternative PHBs and systems based off 4E.


I am accepting wagers on whether Urza is a Prophet or a False Prophet.

(just kidding)


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SirUrza wrote:
I really doubt the GSL limits what Paizo wants to do, I believe it'll limit people like Monte Cook and Green Ronin from creating alternative PHBs and systems based off 4E.

If there's a limit then I predict that it'll be in content. They couldn't have released The Skinsaw Murders or Hook Mountain Massacre under the d20 System Trade License, for example.

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Watcher wrote:
I am accepting wagers on whether Urza is a Prophet or a False Prophet. (just kidding)

No please, take wages. :)

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Everyone knows that Urza is a Blind Prophet.


SirUrza wrote:
No please, take wages. :)

Thank you sir! There's nothing better than wagers than wages! ;)

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Blind prophet... I prefer to think of myself as a cynical muse. :)


Kruelaid wrote:
So the stuff invested in may have some value as a limited print run.... hmmm.

Does this explain whats happening with Chapter two? (Skinsaw murders)

It seems that were unable to purchase it directly from paizo stock and I seen it somewhere on the internet for sale at £70 (roughly $140?)
How come its out of print? Just because it was so popular or is there another reason?

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Dualwolf wrote:
Does this explain whats happening with Chapter two? (Skinsaw murders)It seems that were unable to purchase it directly from paizo stock and I seen it somewhere on the internet for sale at £70 (roughly $140?)How come its out of print? Just because it was so popular or is there another reason?

It was under printed and more popular then they expect.

While they never confirmed it, my theory is they based their print run off the initial sales of PF1. The sample time for those sales numbers were too short because PF1 was probably still selling well when PF2 came out, it was still very new and people were still just discovering it. When PF2 finally did come out, there were a lot more people wanting it then they thought because their sales numbers didn't reflex to demand for PF by the time PF2 hit the shelves.

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Actually, I believe we had to set the print run for Pathfinder 2 and 3 before 1 was even out.

We're looking into the feasibility of reprinting, but even if we do, it'll take a couple of months.

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Vic Wertz wrote:

Actually, I believe we had to set the print run for Pathfinder 2 and 3 before 1 was even out.

We're looking into the feasibility of reprinting, but even if we do, it'll take a couple of months.

Hearing people wishing for a print copy of issue 2. I decided to check Amazon and pick up a couple of extras. This one is going to be a hot seller on Ebay in six months or so...

Just checked Ebay. One for sale new for $13.95 (buy it now). Sounds like a bargain.


SirUrza wrote:


I think it's inevitable. If Paizo doesn't switch over this year, they will in a year when 3.5 has starved itself into abandonment. I really doubt the GSL limits what Paizo wants to do, I believe it'll limit people like Monte Cook and Green Ronin from creating alternative PHBs and systems based off 4E.

I don't have their numbers, but it's possible that the majority of their current customers doesn't want to change to 4e. And I think Paizo isn't the sort of company who abandons proven customers to get potential new ones.

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KaeYoss wrote:
I don't have their numbers, but it's possible that the majority of their current customers doesn't want to change to 4e. And I think Paizo isn't the sort of company who abandons proven customers to get potential new ones.

We'll have to wait and see what they do. I don't think we'll see D20 products supporting a 3.5 model come Summer 2009.

I also don't think a 3.75 is a realistic long term solution.


I do. There's always have been people who preferred to stick to an old edition instead of a new one.

This time, it's quite likely that there will be more than ever before, because of several reasons:


  • The new edition seems to have a different feel to it. There already have been reports from people who got to test it and who said that it isn't the game they know. I think a lot of fans will see it the same way. Plus, this time they're throwing out 30 years of D&D history. The previous editions were new rules, but the same general world(s). This time, that's not the case
  • For the first time, a new edition doesn't mean that there cannot be any more stuff for the old one. So the threat of "being left all alone in the cold night" isn't as big as it used to be.

And I think that Paizo could totally pull it off. They enjoy a very good reputation. And from all we hear, Pathfinder's doing a lot better than they had hoped, even though it belongs to a "dying edition".

Sure, some of those who buy it do so just to pass the time until 4e comes around, but I think that there's more who want to stick to 3e, or go where Paizo leads, because they care about the story, not the ruleset. Both groups would stick to Pathfinder if they never switched to 4e.

By the way: What's the latest numbers from that Poll about people's plans? Last time I checked in, most said that they'd follow paizo, and I think that those who said that they'd stick to 3e were more than those who said they'd go to 4e no matter what.

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The reason I say 3.75 isn't a realistic long term solution is because there are many people out there that just won't buy it. People will still play 3.5 or go to 4.0. There are still a lot of people playing AD&D for christ sake.

3.75 needs more then just paizo products to use it. It doesn't matter how many people buy it, if people that buy it don't use it because the people they play with aren't interested, the supporting product won't sell either.

Right now, ANYONE can buy pathfinder stuff. Everyone has the 3.5 books, so players don't care that they're playing a pathfinder adventures, because only 1 person, the DM, needs the pathfinder books.

That model doesn't exist for 3.75. All the players would need to have the new ruleset and I don't think anyone is going to be able to sell it to them if everyone selling in stores is going to 4.0... and I certainly don't want to risk Pathfinder by making it the flagship campaign setting for such a ruleset.


SirUrza wrote:
The reason I say 3.75 isn't a realistic long term solution is because there are many people out there that just won't buy it. People will still play 3.5 or go to 4.0. There are still a lot of people playing AD&D for christ sake.

Well, it doesn't have to be a 3.75. They could as well go and release a set of 3.5 "core books", calling them d20 Fantasy.

And if they go ahead and make a new third edition (3.75 if you will), they can go ahead and make it fully compatible with 3.5 stuff, with only fine-tuning and tweaks that fit seamlessly with other material out there. Add variant rules and advice for stuff like "games with magic items" and it should be fine.

Either would be fine by me. As long as they don't go 4e, I'll be happy.

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