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OK, something I haven't really wrapped my head around in Pathfinder - if I get a permanent boost to Intelligence, do I get retroactive skill points for my new Intelligence? I'm thinking no.

If I get a boost to Intelligence from a magic item, do I get skill points for the effective Intelligence score? Would I lose the extra points if the item were removed? Would I regain those points if I got it back?

Trying to decide how many skill points I should have, obviously, and this character is my first in a long time where I would consider an INT-boosting item...


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Ragadolf wrote:

Heh, I am enjoying the 'creation' and side chat as much as I am enjoying the game! :)

BTW, MArdi Gras weekend here, which you'd THINK would mean I'd have time on my hands, but as the family is all out of school too, means usually,... No. I don't ;P

So in short, might not get to post much until Ash Wednesday. But I'll try to keep up.

Right on.

My wife's uncle finally did pass away, so I'll be sparse the next few days and gone for Tues and Wed from Paizo; got stuff to take care of.

Trying to wrap my head around today's developments. Man I worked 8 1/2 hours today, so bear with me....


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Angry Jawa wrote:
I believe I am ready. Character history is not as detailed as I would like, but it's all I can manage right now. :)

Looks good; like the messed up memory schtick, cos it gives the ability to let me make stuff up later and say "oh.....your amnesia wore off a little bit."


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AinvarG wrote:

OK, something I haven't really wrapped my head around in Pathfinder - if I get a permanent boost to Intelligence, do I get retroactive skill points for my new Intelligence? I'm thinking no.

If I get a boost to Intelligence from a magic item, do I get skill points for the effective Intelligence score? Would I lose the extra points if the item were removed? Would I regain those points if I got it back?

Trying to decide how many skill points I should have, obviously, and this character is my first in a long time where I would consider an INT-boosting item...

I'll see what I can figure out; I'm not sure either. I get jacked by the devil in the details quite a bit.


dungeonmaster heathy wrote:


Looks good; like the messed up memory schtick, cos it gives the ability to let me make stuff up later and say "oh.....your amnesia wore off a little bit."

I try to leave a little room for the DM to work in. Condolences to your family, man. Praying for you all.


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Thanks, man. Her uncle was pretty sick, and he was very elderly, so it was kinda expected by this point.


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I'll post up an intro for Doc in a few minutes in the game thread.....


dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
Thanks, man. Her uncle was pretty sick, and he was very elderly, so it was kinda expected by this point.

Been there, and done that. Better for the one who passes at some point.


dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
I'll post up an intro for Doc in a few minutes in the game thread.....

Would you be so kind as to throw me a link, please.


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oh yeah....I forget that there's four pages of pbp's.

Heathy's Isle of Dread pbp

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
AinvarG wrote:

OK, something I haven't really wrapped my head around in Pathfinder - if I get a permanent boost to Intelligence, do I get retroactive skill points for my new Intelligence? I'm thinking no.

If I get a boost to Intelligence from a magic item, do I get skill points for the effective Intelligence score? Would I lose the extra points if the item were removed? Would I regain those points if I got it back?

Trying to decide how many skill points I should have, obviously, and this character is my first in a long time where I would consider an INT-boosting item...

No retroactive skill points. INT-boosting items come with built-in skills of your choice. You get 1 skill per +2 INT bonus, and 1 skill rank per character level (these improve as you gain levels). Thus, as you are level 14, the device gives you 14 ranks in 1-3 skills, depending on the INT bonus. Naturally these are lost if you lose the item.

Altai has a +6 INT thingy - it gives him 14 ranks in Bluff, Diplomacy and Intimidate.


My condolences, Heathy. Sometimes knowing it's coming does little to make it easier when it finally happens. Other times, it's a relief, sad as that is to say.

Excellent - thanks, Vattnise! That does simplify things, doesn't it?

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Ah sorry to hear that heathy.

I'm away to the coast for a couple of days. Back by wednesday at the latest.


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Right on, Will! And, thanks.

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Male Mothman Expert 5

Sorry to hear the news Heath. My thoughts are with you and your family.


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Thanks, mothy.


For hit points, is it a single roll? Single roll, minimum half a hit die? Dual roll, take the best? Re-roll 1's? Some combination of the above?

Here's what I have so far: Emrael Bladewalker


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Yeah; you roll the dice, and if it's under half you get half.


dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
Yeah; you roll the dice, and if it's under half you get half.

Well, then, here goes nothing:

14d8 ⇒ (2, 3, 1, 5, 8, 8, 2, 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 2) = 62

Ouch. Let's see, I have (5, 8, 8, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) = 51 that are keepers and six dice that total 11 that get swapped out for 24 hp and a total of 75 before CON and favored class bonus, which brings it up to 103.

Now I don't feel so bad about my insane AC.


Her background is percolating in my mind, but I have not had time to write it down and get the crunch right (or I hope it's right - maybe someone can check my work).


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Emrael:

Spoiler:
Briefly, you've been sent by the Elven Lady of the Isle 1,000 Pines to the nearby Island of Wa, to a forest in the south, to investigate the area. Her oracles have informed her that something is amiss there; something that bodes not well for the area in general. And since you're 14th level, which is a pretty epic badass, she's entrusted you with this gig.

Wa was historically owned by your people; humans came later and trashed up the place. Many elves went back to the First World; the Elves of 1,000 Pines, though.....they stayed behind, to ward that Sacred Isle.

That's my idea anyway......

Tell me whenever you're ready, and I'll start working you in to the mix.


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AinvarG wrote:
Her background is percolating in my mind, but I have not had time to write it down and get the crunch right (or I hope it's right - maybe someone can check my work).

Just threw something together in the spoiler; if it's dippy you can do something else.


Condolences Heathy.
I keep thinking of myself as young (probably just because I hang around the 20-somethings at the university) But it seems like I've reached the point where life has stopped giving me friends, and started taking them away.

Of course, life is also now giving me grandkids, so I'm not mad at God or anything. :)

/Ramble. Condolences Heathy, My thoughts are with you and your family. :)


dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
AinvarG wrote:
Her background is percolating in my mind, but I have not had time to write it down and get the crunch right (or I hope it's right - maybe someone can check my work).
Just threw something together in the spoiler; if it's dippy you can do something else.

This is great. The background that I have in mind is older, more history, so this gives me a place to set my hook.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
AinvarG wrote:


Now I don't feel so bad about my insane AC.

Yeah, you're hard to hit...

BTW, what's the deal with your sword? Your crit range is 15-20, but you don't have Improved Critical


Oops.

For a character so built around her sword, you would think I would have remembered to include the sword on the character sheet. *ahem*

It is a +1 keen holy cold iron katana, so the keen property on the sword is the reason it has the larger crit range.

I'm also missing my arcana and spells.

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5
Vattnisse wrote:
AinvarG wrote:


Now I don't feel so bad about my insane AC.

Yeah, you're hard to hit...

BTW, what's the deal with your sword? Your crit range is 15-20, but you don't have Improved Critical

And I thought Beldan's AC was crazy high.


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Vattnisse wrote:
AinvarG wrote:


Now I don't feel so bad about my insane AC.

Yeah, you're hard to hit...

BTW, what's the deal with your sword? Your crit range is 15-20, but you don't have Improved Critical

And I thought Beldan's AC was crazy high.

I probably overdid it on the AC items. I was concerned about the fact that she is not proficient with any armor, so I was layering defenses and I had a pretty healthy budget... I got carried away.

But I don't think it's actually too out of place, at the same time.


Wow, I just looked at Beldan. You're right - it's crazy high. ;-)


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Yeah, next I need to find some sort of way to upgrade my armour so that I can apply the full dex bonus to AC ...

Or swap the chainshirt for Bracers of AC +8 or better.


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game thread;

I gotta crash. It's kinda an impromptu meet n greet in the game thread. Dok is there; anybody else who's done making a character can cruise up and start talking if they want.
There's a tanuki there, with a wand of comprehend languages; feel free to join in or not and parley with the group......

I'll be gone from Paizo until at least Wednesday night, maybe Thursday, so check you fellows later.


Beldan Vale wrote:

Yeah, next I need to find some sort of way to upgrade my armour so that I can apply the full dex bonus to AC ...

Or swap the chainshirt for Bracers of AC +8 or better.

Funny thing is, I'm seriously considering a downgrade of the Bracers to +5 to save myself 11K to spend elsewhere.


OK, some rearranging of gear and a fair amount of coin left unassigned for basic gear and spell components that I don't have time to research at the moment.

I think she's about as ready as I can hope for. Hopping into the thread if I can figure out where the heck y'all are.


Welcome! Come on in, the story's great! :)

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A couple of questions about Planar binding.

A) I can bind something with up to 12 HD. Some of the more interesting creatures (garuda, lammasu, some archons) have 8-11 HD. Is it OK to summon a creature with some class levels to boost them to 12 HD, or is this terribly cheesy? Some examples are obviously preposterous (i.e. celestial black pudding barbarian 2). However, as an example, a lammasu has 9 HD and casts spells as a level 7 Oracle. Can I summon a lammasu Oracle 3, which would have 12 HD and CL 10?

B) Do bound creatures benefit from my Augment Summoning feat?


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A)yes, it's cool and

B)I don't know yet; I'll look at it.


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B) It says "summon" spells, so I don't think so.


Bummer. I cannot get the dot to stick in the game thread. Tried my normal tricks, nothing doing. I dotted this thread fine - kick me if I seem to be asleep in the game thread. Bummer.


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That's weird.


My dots have been vanishing faster than candy in front of my 8-year old.
;P


Mine have been largely stable. If one disappears, I can usually post something with my primary avatar/profile/whatever and save it. Even if I delete it right away or change the profile to the 'right' one for that thread, the dot usually stays. Not so much here.

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dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
B) It says "summon" spells, so I don't think so.

I agree. Though the ally is obviously summoned from somewhere, it isn't called up with an actual Summon monster spell.

I'm torn on what to summon, though. A garuda Sorcerer 1 is pretty badass - a surprisingly tough Sor 8 who can fly and is a lethal ranged combatant. A lammasu Oracle 3 is a less capable combatant, but is an excellent healer and all-round support character. Other alternatives are a movanic deva or a shield archon Pal 3. Choices, choices...

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Male Human Expert 5

Having said that... An archon paladin in this group? Probably not.


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heh heh heh.....
you could make him neutral good.....

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Male Mothman Expert 5

What alignment are garudas?

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Chaotic Good.

They are native outsiders, though - would that mean I can't summon one?


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Naah; I don't care.


BTW, I'm getting hammered at work. Again. I'll try to keep up with all my threads as best I can, but I will be pretty sparse the next couple of days until I get this next musical up and running.

Thanks, see you all soon!


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Right on!

Seems to be a lot of that going around lately.....

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Apologies for my slow posting - we have no home internet right now, and posting from work is a bit tricky. Hopefully the situation will resolve itself soon.

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