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What are the typical clothing fashions of the various races/ethnicities of Varisia? For example what would the typical Varisian, Shoanti, Chelaxian, etc, be wearing? in what way do the people of Sandpoint differ from this norm?
Thank you for any help.
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What are the typical clothing fashions of the various races/ethnicities of Varisia? For example what would the typical Varisian, Shoanti, Chelaxian, etc, be wearing? in what way do the people of Sandpoint differ from this norm?
I took a fairly general approach with this, but found the following helpful:
Take a look at Gypsy clothing and styles. I use this as a basis for Varisians.
I use Native American Indian garb, notably hollywood styles with less feathers.
And I use hollywood influences regarding Renaissance garb for Chelaxians.
Me 2 cents!
-DM Jeff
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What are the typical clothing fashions of the various races/ethnicities of Varisia? For example what would the typical Varisian, Shoanti, Chelaxian, etc, be wearing? in what way do the people of Sandpoint differ from this norm?I took a fairly general approach with this, but found the following helpful:
Take a look at Gypsy clothing and styles. I use this as a basis for Varisians.
I use Native American Indian garb, notably hollywood styles with less feathers.
And I use hollywood influences regarding Renaissance garb for Chelaxians.
Me 2 cents!
-DM Jeff
Those are perfect examples.
Pathfinder #7 has a big article about Varisians, and their clothing styles is talked about therein. Pathfinder #10 will do the same for the Shoanti.
As for Chelaxians, they're either "Generic D&D style" or "Lots of red and black and devil motifs."
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It sometimes seems odd that Chelaxians are so "normal" seeming, given that they culture is rather LE, Devil-Worshiping, and in general...well, 'Nazis minus the holocaust' spring to mind, but then, dont they always when we think about LE cultures.
I suppose that the Chels of Varisia are a sort of isolated population that was separated from the "revolution" in the actual empire that made everyone go all weird. From the Scarnettis ,we see that "traditional Chelish values" seem rather prudish and straight-laced, but hardly feindish.
Thank you for the ideas!
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It sometimes seems odd that Chelaxians are so "normal" seeming, given that they culture is rather LE, Devil-Worshiping, and in general...well, 'Nazis minus the holocaust' spring to mind, but then, dont they always when we think about LE cultures.
I suppose that the Chels of Varisia are a sort of isolated population that was separated from the "revolution" in the actual empire that made everyone go all weird. From the Scarnettis ,we see that "traditional Chelish values" seem rather prudish and straight-laced, but hardly feindish.
It's worth noting that the Chelish folk of Varisia are colonists from Cheliax from 300 years ago, and that Cheliax fell under the sway of the devil worshipers only about 100 years ago. The majority of Cheliax's people aren't evil; their government is. The Chelish peoples of Varisia (most of whom are actually native-born Varisains now) are not from the devil-worshiping society, but from a relatively "standard D&D" type society.
"Traditional Chelish values" are indeed straight-laced and a bit prudish, but not particularly evil.
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It sometimes seems odd that Chelaxians are so "normal" seeming, given that they culture is rather LE, Devil-Worshiping, and in general...well, 'Nazis minus the holocaust' spring to mind, but then, dont they always when we think about LE cultures.
I suppose that the Chels of Varisia are a sort of isolated population that was separated from the "revolution" in the actual empire that made everyone go all weird. From the Scarnettis ,we see that "traditional Chelish values" seem rather prudish and straight-laced, but hardly feindish.
Yeah, Korvosa is more like Kaiser Wilhelm's government than Adolf Hitler's government. Very militaristic. Very regimented. Not evil.
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I'd kind of gotten the gist ( I think it was mentioned in a Pathfinder Journal) that Korvosa has been kind of trying to ape the Empire, to please it and attract it's attention, with Gothic, Feind-haunted architecture and so on. does distance make the Empire look better, like so many things? (ancient knowledge, for example. after all, dont we see saffron-clad, bald youths trekking down from the mountains to learn the Way of Mrs. Cosmopolite?) or am I mistaken?
Obviously, all of this, and much much more, will be revealed in CotCT, and the Guide to Korvosa, I'm sure.
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I'd kind of gotten the gist ( I think it was mentioned in a Pathfinder Journal) that Korvosa has been kind of trying to ape the Empire, to please it and attract it's attention, with Gothic, Feind-haunted architecture and so on. does distance make the Empire look better, like so many things? (ancient knowledge, for example. after all, dont we see saffron-clad, bald youths trekking down from the mountains to learn the Way of Mrs. Cosmopolite?) or am I mistaken?
Obviously, all of this, and much much more, will be revealed in CotCT, and the Guide to Korvosa, I'm sure.
That's pretty much correct. Which is why there's an order of Hellknights nearby Korvosa, and why there's a cathedral of Asmodeus in town.
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Yeah, Korvosa is more like Kaiser Wilhelm's government than Adolf Hitler's government. Very militaristic. Very regimented. Not evil.
Sadly, those Prussians have a very regimental tradition. Do you mean Wilhelm I, with HRH QI as a hard-charging Otto von Bismark, as opposed to more supportive moderates like von Bulow under Wilhelm II, right? Oddly enough, Theobald von Bethmann Holwegg was survived by a Countess Zeech.
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Sadly, those Prussians have a very regimental tradition. Do you mean Wilhelm I, with HRH QI as a hard-charging Otto von Bismark, as opposed to more supportive moderates like von Bulow under Wilhelm II, right? Oddly enough, Theobald von Bethmann Holwegg was survived by a Countess Zeech.
Yeah, Korvosa is more like Kaiser Wilhelm's government than Adolf Hitler's government. Very militaristic. Very regimented. Not evil.
Being one of the 5 people on this board who understood that, I'm guessing more like the grandfather Wilhelm with Bismarck, after they unified Germany and whooped Danish, Austrian and French butt. Considering that it's in a state of decline though, it might be nearing the end of that (or even a Post-WW1 state, wasn't Andor originally under Chelish control and now independent?)
Anyway, turn of the 20th century politics are far more interesting than turn of the 21st.
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Sadly, those Prussians have a very regimental tradition. Do you mean Wilhelm I, with HRH QI as a hard-charging Otto von Bismark, as opposed to more supportive moderates like von Bulow under Wilhelm II, right? Oddly enough, Theobald von Bethmann Holwegg was survived by a Countess Zeech.
Yeah, Korvosa is more like Kaiser Wilhelm's government than Adolf Hitler's government. Very militaristic. Very regimented. Not evil.
Oh, you know... what? ;D
'Nazis minus the holocaust' spring to mind, but then, dont they always when we think about LE cultures.
Nah, we weren't all evil back then. Only a small percentage was, actually. For the rest, it was part fear and part hatemongering.
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Yeah, I see what you mean. but, the cultural values of said culture would certainly be considered evil, andquite a few people bought into them, didnt they. but yeah, You wouldnt call them evil
meh, it's hard to draw real-world parallells like this, because you're trying to fit D&D morality into a world that simply does not work that way.
Most people are neutral, yes, but when there's a LE fiend-worshiping government running things with any ammount of competence, they're going to be trying like hell to make themselves look good. that means all sorts of subtle and not-so-subtle cultural influences to make people beleive in whatever values that the government stands for.