Hi All,
Last week I finally got around to running The Champion's Belt and was having trouble visualising the various subterranian layers beneath the arena, so...
I created a multi-layered map showing how each of the layers relate to one another. Hope it's of as much help to others here on the boards as it is to me.
Free City Arena Under Structure Map
It's a lot bigger than the average browser window can show so just zoom in for more detaily goodness.
Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year to all on the boards from deepest darkest Derbyshire,
Miph (not Melf)
Just thought I'd add a key to the map...
Level 1 - Red : Service Level
Level 2 - Yellow : Shrine of Kyuss
Level 3 - Blue : Arena Caverns
The larger circular coridor has gone a muddy purple because it conicides on both the Service Level & Arena Caverns. The spiral staircases are even worse because they appear on all three levels.
Miph
Simply put - that is absolutely fantastic. The overlay (including the city) is just amazing, and tremendously helpful.
Great, great map.
Very nicely done.
Wow. Add me to the chorus of amazement. I'll definitely be referring to that map when the time comes. (My group will be heading into Sodden Hold in our next session. Hopefully we'll be nicely into the Champions' Games by February.)
Very nice.
It's hard to find maps that actually end up working out properly, and this is one of those rare finds. Notice that the two staircases on the north end actually line up with Raknian's estate, and the two river-inlets meet up with the river on the overland map. Kudos are due to the cartographer, who actually took the effort to make sure that everything matched up right.
Don't bother trying this with the map of the citadel in 'Kings of the Rift', by the way. That is quite possibly the worst map in the entire campaign; the pseudo-3D look doesn't help you figure out where things are in relation to each other, and they make it difficult to determine just how large certain areas are. Some floors are elevated, but have spots that are on the same level as non-elevated rooms. Not to mention the stairs; they don't all line up.
On a related note, I'm almost finished detailing an improved three-dimensional rendition of the Alhaster Spire; a little guesswork on heights gave me a total elevation of just a hair over 750 feet. I'll post something (probably on a new thread) once it's finished.
Thanks All,
Much praise should go to Robert Lazzaretti for the original maps, they do line up beautifully. It just took a bit of re-scaling from the originals and after extending the underground stream & sewers to the west everything just came together.
I am a little concerned though that the original Lazzaretti maps indicate that the sewers empty in to the "Stream." In The City of Greyhawk this can only be "The Millstream" which runs North to South right through the middle of the city. Canon indicates that The Millstream is only "about 1-2 feet deep at most." The sewers and stream on the Arena Caverns map are said to be 30 feet under the Service Level which is in turn over 10 feet below the ground level of the Arena. This would place the bed of The Millstream about 40 feet lower than the Arena floor, thats quite a drop in elevation for the short distance (50 or so feet) it is from the Arena.
Canon also states that "Citizens sometimes drink the water in New City, and almost everyone in Slum Quarter has drunk from it." This doesn't sound much like a stream into which sewers empty.
Denis Tetreault's Map of The Undercity of Greyhawk shows the sewers continuing on under The Millstream to a large sump under the Hall of the Dean of Grey College (Area C1a.)
Also, the manhole at street level, to the north of the Arena Caverns, appears to lead to a location in the Garden Quarter of the city on the other side of the The Nobles' Wall. The Nobles' Wall is not shown on the original Lazzaretti map so I've taken the liberty of uploading a new map with the Nobles' Wall added (along with a few labels for surface structures.)
Free City Arena Under Structure Map
Miph
Can't help on the depth discrepencies in the stream, but as for the contamination, it is likely that priests of various temples have their low level clerics casting purify food & water on a regular basis on all the cities various water supplies. You have to figure that there isn't great waste disposal... no seperate sewage system for a city this size could lead to some bad hygiene related deaths.
Sean Mahoney
Very nice.
It's hard to find maps that actually end up working out properly, and this is one of those rare finds. Notice that the two staircases on the north end actually line up with Raknian's estate, and the two river-inlets meet up with the river on the overland map. Kudos are due to the cartographer, who actually took the effort to make sure that everything matched up right.
Don't bother trying this with the map of the citadel in 'Kings of the Rift', by the way. That is quite possibly the worst map in the entire campaign; the pseudo-3D look doesn't help you figure out where things are in relation to each other, and they make it difficult to determine just how large certain areas are. Some floors are elevated, but have spots that are on the same level as non-elevated rooms. Not to mention the stairs; they don't all line up.
Personally I thought it was a very interesting map. 3D maps take some getting used to but I don't agree that its somehow a bad way of displaying a map. In fact its one of my favorites in the whole Age of Worms. Considering that the area being mapped is multi-level with many openings outward I think this was a pretty good choice for displaying the citadel. That said I do see what you mean that there are some problems with things either not lining up or it not being clear that a passage slopes upward etc.
I'd say the cartographer maybe bit off more then he could chew on this one.
Wow.
Even better, I have taken to mapping using whiteboard marker on clear vinyl. Doesn't *quite* come off cleanly, but ok with a damp cloth.
As I have more than one sheet of the vinyl, it's easy to do layers at the table.
Awesomeness. I wish I had this map the first time I had run Age of Worms; this completely clarifies any confusion with how the maps link together (which took me a few times on my inital run-through of the path). Simply fantastic! (more oohs and ahhs..) Now, if I could just get somebody with free time to do the same thing to the Citadel of Weeping Dragons in KotR...-probably the most confusing map in the path.
Oh my god why is the link broken :<