Will Gamemastery Modules ever tackle high level adventures?


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After all, the Pathfinder APs only take characters to Lvls 15-16. Is it possible that in the future we will see 17,18, or 19 level appropriate adventures for PCs?

Food for thought: the reason I ask is because when I bought the Rise of the Runelords Item cards I noticed some...heavy hitting cards (most notably, *someone's* glaive). And I thought, why would I give this item card to the Pcs if they're never going to use it? I want to continue on with the players, let them stretch their legs a little after the Path. I personally hope high level mods are in the works.

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We don't have any high-level adventures coming up in the immediately future. In general, it's extremely difficult to produce a quality high-level adventure in the 32-page module format, mainly to do the length of high level encounters.

Also, there is a smaller demand for high-level adventures as compared to low- or mid-level ones.

I'm not going to say we'll never do high level adventures (especially with a new edition potentially on the horizon) but we don't have one on the radar yet.

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Jeremy Walker wrote:

We don't have any high-level adventures coming up in the immediately future. In general, it's extremely difficult to produce a quality high-level adventure in the 32-page module format, mainly to do the length of high level encounters.

Also, there is a smaller demand for high-level adventures as compared to low- or mid-level ones.

I'm not going to say we'll never do high level adventures (especially with a new edition potentially on the horizon) but we don't have one on the radar yet.

Hello Jeremy,

you mention something that is bothering me: The 32 page format makes the modules pretty much calculatable in price (-> subscription), but restricts them pretty much in matters of adventure size: You can change the size of the "second part" of the module (critters, back ground information etc.). But apart from that you don't have any possiblity to enlarge the adventure without forming multi part adventures (e.g. D0 + D1) which makes them close to "mini adventure paths".

Are there any plans to publish larger modules in future or is this only possible in the Pathfinder format? I'd really look forward to larger modules which aren't part of a 6 part adventure part.

Maybe Paizo restricts itself too much by these 32 page module vs. 6 * 50 page adventure path formats?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Günther

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik


Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

All I can say is "Bring it on and cost be damned!"


Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

I'd really like to see those. In Golarion. Cool.

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Sharoth wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

All I can say is "Bring it on and cost be damned!"

I second that!

Liberty's Edge

Sweeeeeeeeet.


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Sharoth wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

All I can say is "Bring it on and cost be damned!"

Another Gamemastery subscriber says "Bring it on!" Although, I was at the time I found this discussion looking at the cost of becoming a Pathfinder Chronicles subscriber.

Sovereign Court

Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

Hello Erik,

thanks for your fast reply! :-)

I am really looking forward to both adventures. I always enjoyed Wolfgang's and Robert's adventures, and really loved the two patronage projects of Wolfgang's which I read so far.

About surprising people: Nice coincidence, the very same topic came up in this thread.

EDITED:
Why not treat the large size modules like GameMastery Module TC1: Into the Haunted Forest (OGL) ? I quote from the TC1 product description: "This product is not included in GameMastery Modules subscriptions, but subscribers who purchase this module will receive a free PDF when the module ships."

I could live with that. Unfortunately free pdfs are anyway the only advantage (apart from automatic shipment) in comparision to PF subscription.

Of course there is still the classical option: Re-name it to GameMastery Magazine and publish two adventures per issue. ;-)
Sounds silly, but there are advantages to this option: Each issue could consist of one large and one small or two medium sized adventures, and the size and price would be better calculatable by both you and your fellow customers.

Cheers,
Günther


Guennarr wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

EDITED:

Why not treat the large size modules like GameMastery Module TC1: Into the Haunted Forest (OGL) ? I quote from the TC1 product description: "This product is not included in GameMastery Modules subscriptions, but subscribers who purchase this module will receive a free PDF when the module ships."

I think this would be a wise idea. I'll be all over these huge adventures like white on rice, but the price jump might be a bit much for gamers on a budget and locked into the subscription prices.

EDITED:
Given the noted fact that it's a minority of gamers that go for the "high-level" adventures anyway, this would be a good way to test the waters; seeing how these mega-adventures, presumably high level, do for you. Again, I'm all over these :)

Liberty's Edge

Sharoth wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

All I can say is "Bring it on and cost be damned!"

I agree :D


I like the idea of some bigger books coming down the pipe as well. I don't know how I'll feel about a 100 page supertome of pure module. Maybe I'll buy it just as reference material. Still don't do modules at all. Pathfinder kills that pain a bit with loads of game setting info. Not sure how I'll feel about something that doesn't. Mostly it'll depend on how indispensible it is. Something with low setting content I'd probably be inclined to skip on unless persuaded otherwise.

Then again, I'll have more than enough coming my way in the form of Campaign Setting books, Bestiaries, Gazeteers, Regional Handbooks to sate my appetite for a while. There'll be plenty out there for me to buy.

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I'm all in favour of having that volume as part of the GM series, but would buy it either way.

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Erik Mona wrote:

We have 128-page adventures brewing by both Wolfgang Baur and Robert J. Kuntz, but I don't yet have a great idea of when they will be coming out or whether or not they will be part of the GameMastery subscription. They probably will be, but since they'll be more expensive I worry a little bit about surprising people.

--Erik

*drools*

Super adventures set in Golarion? Me want!


I'm also in favor of having the 128 page adventure as part of the subscription. If the cost bum for that month is given notice (say 2+ months), I figure people with subscriptions should be able to plan accordingly (subscriptions aren't exactly inexpensive after all).

Liberty's Edge

Well, um, since Paizo is now the only gaming company getting my dollars, you now have the whole pie, so to speak. 128 page adventures *will* be a surprise, a pleasant one. You tell me how much and I'm there. Scary, huh?

-DM Jeff


One thing I'm always sorely looking for is high level adventures. My group enjoys all levels of play, and while there is an absolute wealth of low level adventures out there I find it extremely hard to track down high level stuff.

Please produce high level game mastery adventures. You'll absolutely secure my gaming dollars if you do.

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