Ready as I’ll ever be, thanks for the extra days.
Available Sources: SRD, Unearthed Arcana, Dragon 319.
Will consider the XPH, or other sources for alternative class features.
Soulknives start with Hidden Talent, not Wild Talent.
I have some serious revisions for classes / races that I’m not going to add at this time, so for now, just run with what is in the 3.5 Dark Sun in Dragon (though in places the city backgrounds are different), with the exception of bards (we’ll cover that if someone wants to play one, ‘cause fricking Asthasian bards DO NOT CAST). I also have an alignment modification for half-giants that we can talk about later.
Cosmetically, Sorcerers will be Defilers and Wizards, Preservers, though for this campaign it really only relates to NPC relations, both can rack up defiler points as you like and neither are penalized for normal casting.
Templars are available for play as spontaneous divine casters with one domain, and a different skill list.
We’ll be using single group initiative for combat, so feats that modify initiative may be of interest to you.
Each player has 3 action points to spend.
5th level equivalent PC’s.
Don’t bother picking out gear, everyone is butt naked. As far as animal companions, familiars, and weapon specific feats go, let me know what it is you want and I’ll see they become available before long.
If you don’t have the new materials, that’s perfectly acceptable, I can supply the stats and some flavor for character creation.
All characters will need at least a little background please (I can help with the specifics as you need). PC’s can come from anywhere, though the majority of the adventure will take place in Raam.
One post per day per player requirement. Can post more if you like, but at least once a day would be great, weekends tend to be a little more relaxed.
32 Point Buy on stats.
As for time zones, don't worry about it. I am Eastern here, but I work nights, so I tend to be awake from 10 p.m. to 3 p.m.
Rolls: Invisible Castle preferred, but not required (I'm fairly inclined to trust all concerned).
If you want an alternative to 32 point buy, I'm also willing to let you do the old school 5d4, but you get what you get!
If you are encountering the discussion post first, go to the signup!
Something to keep in mind about Athas and Lawful Good for aspiring Paladins: When the air masks drop on an airline, you put the mask on yourself, then your kids (because if you pass out, well, you’re all screwed now, eh?).
Elemental Clerics ok?
It's all good, baby.
Can we get feats from Complete Champion? I want to take one of the domain feats presented there.
Yes, but I'm obliged to believe the elemental powers would only grant the air/water/fire/earth devotions, or the inverse, that clerics would only devote themselves to these spheres of influence.
Don't have the XPH, but I have the SRD, is that ok?
Perfect!
Am I still in?
You are now. Get thee hence to the signup! ;)
Forgot to add: As long as you can be responsible, evil alignments are allowable for this run.
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Forgot to add: As long as you can be responsible, evil alignments are allowable for this run.
Oooh, this seems like a good opportunity to try out an idea that I've been wanting to try for a while. Or not.
Weird, eh? I'm still not sure whether or not to go for it, though.
Abyway, are we starting at first, or third level?
Here I thought I was odd.
Abyway, are we starting at first, or third level?
Anything that adds up to 5 after level adjustments.
Mul Psychic Warrior, anyone? :D
Rockin'. Don't be afraid to double up on classes either. The Tyr Valley is full of hot death where the weak are enslaved, then eaten.
What are the stats for Muls anyway
+2 Str, +4 Con, Medium, 30 ft. base, half normal rest for natural healing, 3 psp's + offensive prescience (CHA), LA +1
Muls are hybrid dwarf / humans bred for gladiatorial combat or a life of hard labor. Generally, the human mothers do not survive.
what races are allowed?
Allowable races: Anything in the SRD (although the stats are beefed for Dark Sun), Half-Giant, Aarakocra, Mul, Pterran, and Thri-kreen. Anyone dead set on playing something special might sweet talk me into allowing a "new race" tower mutation.
is there a substantial difference?
There is a fairly wide deviation, but if you have a general idea what you might like to play or from where, I can help fill in the blanks easily enough.
I'm planning to keep it simple. Elven sorcerer.
as SRD, except:
- +4 dex, -2 con
- 40 ft. base
- 3 psp's + conceal thoughts (CHA)
- mwp longbow/shortbow/falchion/rapier/scimitar
- favored: rogue
- bonus feat: Endurance
- lose + vs. enchantments/gain +2 vs. illusions
- +2 listen/search/spot
- LA +1
Athasian elves are slick. If they had a philosophy they cared to debate, it would be, "Live in the now." They don't think about consequences, because consequences don't happen until later, and later may as well not exist. Elves tend to lead short, incredibly exciting lives, and few people are stupid enough to try to double cross an old elf.
Elves under the Dark Sun value one thing and one thing only: the tribe. Any other living creature, even other elves, are fair game when it comes to proving one's value to the tribe.
Slow to trust, the typical elf might test companions in subtle ways, eventually leading up to a dangerous or even life threatening proof of worth situation. Once trust is earned, an elf is a friend for life. Betrayed, that same elf can be an unpredictable and implacable foe.
Also, your sorcerer will gain Sleight of Hand as a class skill.
Also, Swim is a cross-class skill for everyone.
Wish I had spoilered the Mul stat area as well; I don't want to get too fast and loose with copyright, after all.
I'm thinking of doing a thri-kreen ranger.
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Stats here and confirmed for 32 pt.buy.
Name: Holdrus
The plan is for a 4th level Mul(+1LA) Warrior (generic class from unearthed arcana in the SRD)
Light armor (even though my proficiencies list medium also)
For weapon I was thinking either twf with daggers, kukris, or dogslicers(from Pathfinder,if allowed. They are short swords that do slashing instead of piercing)
str 14 (16 with adjustments)
dex 16
con 14 (18 with adjustments)
int 14
wisa 10
cha 10
with these feats right away:
improved initiative, point blank shot, sneak attack(2d6), 2 weapon fighting, and Uncanny dodge.
6th level I would take Evasion and Quick Draw
8th Weapon focus: dagger or kukris or some other small weapon.
9th Improved Crit: for the weapon.
10th would be either 2 weapon defense or farshot.
Not sure if any of this would change.
What are we doing for Hit Points?
How about fishin?
I’m not sure you’d want to keep anything that came in regulation size. It might try to keep you.
I'm thinking of doing a thri-kreen ranger.
Sounds terrifying! Then again, Kreen-anything tends to sound terrifying…
Warrior (generic class from unearthed arcana in the SRD)
I think I just had anal seepage of bliss. Generic classes are my favorite part of UA.
What are we doing for Hit Points?
Max first level, then you can either roll or take the average for your levels if you don’t wish to court chance.
I was thinking either twf with daggers, kukris, or dogslicers(from Pathfinder,if allowed.
Have you considered Cahulaks?
What does conceal thoughts do and how does it work?
Psionics are prevalent throughout the tablelands. Everyone (and many animals and plants) has at least some latent psionic ability.
Even the poisoned wells are guarded, and that daisy you picked? It's already sunk roots into your arm and begun feeding off you, even as it steers you back towards your buddies at camp.
They're in that issue of Dragon and are sort of nunchuku on acid.
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What does conceal thoughts do and how does it work?Conceal Thoughts
Mwahahaha. I have my concept...
FYI, I'm largely knowledgeable about the 'fluff' of Dark Sun but much of the crunch is lost on me (since the only time I have ever played Dark Sun was 2e many years ago). Should I consult Athas.org for the effects of defiling for Arcane casters? I imagine I'll be doing a lot of it (secretly, of course).
Oooh.. actually, would you be opposed to me doing a Beguiler (from the PHB2) instead of a sorcerer? The concept I have in mind would probably work better that way.
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Couple Questions:
What are PSP's and Offensive Prescience? Not very familiar with Psionics.
Average HP per level for a d10 is 5.5. Do I take 5 one level and 6 the next, alternating through levels?
I want to be able to make weapons out of wood and stone(obsidian), what Craft skill do I take?
Are there any languages available that differ from the PHB list and what language(s) do Muls start out knowing(common and/or dwarven I would assume)?
Thanks
FH
Here's Zaros the Mul Psychic Warrior - dang missed we have a Mul alredy... maybe I'll go halfling haha
Str 8 +4+2[racial] = 14
Dex 8 +6pts = 14
Con 8 +6 +4[racial] = 18
Int 8+4 =12
Wis 8+8pts+1[level 4] = 16
Cha 8+4 =12
HD 4d8+16 =
Fort +8
Ref +6
Will +4
Feats: Lightning Reflexes Level 1 , Psionic Fist bonus(1), Up
the Walls bonus(2), Skill Focus (Survival) Level 4
BAB +3
Melee +5
Ranged +5
32-28-24-20-16-12-8-4-2
power points 14 [3 racial+ 6 ability bonus +5 class]
Level 1
Inertial armour
Stomp
Claws of the beast
Offensive presience
Level 2
Body Adjustment
Skills
Climb 4 +2 =6
Jump 4 +2 =6
Concentration 4 +4 =8
Autohypnosis 4 +3 =7
Craft (weaponsmith) 3 +3 =6
Survival 1 +3 +3 =7
By the way, this is my avatar for Holdrus Rippor, Mul Pit Warrior.
Maenad man oh yeah... maybe I should be a wilder.... ah the agony of choice.
My thoughts. Mwbeeler, I order you to pick one.
- Carpet Man, NE male human rogue (-> assassin)
- Riin Vai*, CG female human bard (-> continue as bard)
- Anark Amaranth, CN male elf barbarian (-> tempest)
- Axel Ravi, CN male human sorcerer (-> alienist)*note: no relation to Steve.
If it's anything like the 2nd edition Dark Sun, you could always roll them all up (er...point buy them all up) and keep them around for an occasion where previous characters have been murdered for water/eaten by gith/imprisoned by templars/horrificly maimed by giants.
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Don’t bother picking out gear, everyone is butt naked.
PC’s can come from anywhere, though the majority of the adventure will take place in Raam.
Butt naked? That's kinda scary.
I'd like to get some confirmation regarding Raam. Will you be running it as written in the Dungeon update? Zuko is supposed to be a native of Raam with an axe to grind vs. the other native race (if you can call them that) of Raam.
Should I consult Athas.org for the effects of defiling for Arcane casters?
Basically you’ll get the ability to use metamagic feats for free (even if you don’t know them), recover expended slots, or skip xp / material costs in exchange for assuming defiling points, which come with drawbacks, and can either be removed by simply internalizing the taint, or reflecting introspectively in a verdant area for extended periods.
Oooh.. actually, would you be opposed to me doing a Beguiler (from the PHB2) instead of a sorcerer
Initially, I thought about leaning away from introducing more mechanics for magic vs. psionic ways of doing things, but having a cadre of beguilers might suit Rajaat’s style, so I’m not completely opposed to the idea.
Anyone know what these are and their stats?
They are sort of two grappling hooks at either end of a long rope.
What are PSP's and Offensive Prescience?
Sorry, just abbreviating psionic power points.
From the SRD, 1st level Psychic Warrior powers: Prescience, OffensiveA: Gain +2 insight bonus on your damage rolls.Do I take 5 one level and 6 the next, alternating through levels?
In general, if you wind up with a fraction, round down, even if the fraction is one-half or larger.
I want to be able to make weapons out of wood and stone(obsidian), what Craft skill do I take?
While the different materials would represent very different skill sets in the real world, superficially, the craft (weaponsmith) skills in Dark Sun assume you are used to working with bone / stone / wood / obsidian in every day life.
Muls start out knowing(common and/or dwarven I would assume)?
It’s somewhat uncommon for Muls to know anything except common, although the racial and elemental languages are all present and available. Rare or ancient languages (draconic, blue age Halfling, etc… are almost unheard of in everyday life and cost additional skill points).
- dang missed we have a Mul alredy
Like I said, don’t be afraid to double up. There may be conflicting agendas afoot.
My thoughts. Mwbeeler, I order you to pick one.
I like the gamut, though I’m not sure if an alienist would snap into place or not (then again, do they anywhere). Just fyi, bards here are more like assassins, and use poison (but not spells).
an occasion where previous characters have been murdered for water/eaten by gith/imprisoned by templars/horrificly maimed by giants.
I’m shocked that you could consider I’d ever treat my beautiful party in such a way. Why, they’re like children (moist, delicious children).
I'd like to get some confirmation regarding Raam. Will you be running it as written in the Dungeon update? Zuko is supposed to be a native of Raam with an axe to grind vs. the other native race (if you can call them that) of Raam.
More or less (more on that as things progress). It will work a little smoother if he’s been away for Raam just a bit, though I could easily set you up with contacts inside the city from one of the factions.
I'm gonna roll HD, I don't wanna have to take below average for my whole career. Holdrus ends up with 37 total. Oh well, I am starting a couple below average anyway but a good roll should balance that out.
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I'm slacking, but check it: I'm thinking a Maenad rogue/sorceror. Maybe just rogue if those d4's don't rudely jack me up.
Gott the bling bling thing on my skin,
And my mouth gets me outta the trouble I get in.
I should be ready to roll...some time this weekend.
Oh, and for that Dragon magazine-less, I look like a human with black hair and sparkly stuff on my skin.
Got most of his profile done. Check it out and let me know what you guys think. Just need to come up with some S.O.P.s in case I ain't around and someone needs to take my turn in combat, and come up with a decent background.
Thinking of something like this: Mum died during childbirth, Dad (a dwarf) raised him, training him to wrassle and fight from very young age, taught him some languages and skills that he had, then sold him to an arena team owner in Raam to pay off some debts. Holdrus has gained some fame within the arena circuit, as he hasn't been killed yet, in mostly team battles using sneaky attacks with obsidian blades while flanking an opponent. He earned his freedom in a small uprising of his gladiatorial team that left the Team owner and handlers dead. Trying now to figure out how to make his way in the world.
UNLESS!!! The DM is starting us naked and planning to have us be part of the arena circuit to start with, in which case the "earned his freedom" part hasn't happened.....yet.
I just saw this thread. HAven't checked the 'old' thread in a week. My bad!
Is there still room for me? I think I can get ready by this weekend.
Look slike a pretty eclectic group, I like!
Thank you!
EDIT- Um,...where is 'the signup?'
I can I start with a pair of masterwork cold iron scimitars?
Where’s that silent strike guy when I need him?
I should be ready to roll...some time this weekend.
Plenty o’ time. People will be reading countries for a while yet. ;)
in case I ain't around and someone needs to take my turn in combat, and come up with a decent background.
I have no problems NPC’ing a character for a bit in game, but I deduct half xp for combat encounters, just fyi (though typically I lame out and allow ¾ to get by).
moving this line over here to the discussion thread where it belongs!
Thank you!
I actually have a request, I'm a bit brain dead form work at the moment, (That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!)
I'm seeing all of the other characters, and I'm looking for SUGGESTIONS for race/character/Dark Sun combos. As I am not a power-gamer, nor really get to play enough to know what races/classes (for multi class) really click well together.
I'm just looking for some DS flavor options to check out so I can build something out of the 'ordinary' (and fun!)
(Example- the 'Thri-Kreen Ranger" caught my eye. That's different. Stuff like that.)
Thanks all!
moving this line over here to the discussion thread where it belongs!
Thank you!
I actually have a request, I'm a bit brain dead form work at the moment, (That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!)
I'm seeing all of the other characters, and I'm looking for SUGGESTIONS for race/character/Dark Sun combos. As I am not a power-gamer, nor really get to play enough to know what races/classes (for multi class) really click well together.I'm just looking for some DS flavor options to check out so I can build something out of the 'ordinary' (and fun!)
(Example- the 'Thri-Kreen Ranger" caught my eye. That's different. Stuff like that.)
Thanks all!
Pretty much all character options are going to be out of the ordinary on Athas - 7ft tall elves, mantis men, cannibal halflings, monomaniacal dwarves, half-dwarf bald guys, and mutant humans.