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As promised here is our discussion thread. I'll post some general reference stuff here as I have the opportunity today.

Characters
Corran - human (C) ranger
Ehlissa Briez - human (C) Knight
Malcolm - human (?) rogue
Naelah - human (S) druid
Slidell - human (C) wizard
Vesh - human (V) spellthief

C - Chelaxian
S - Shoanti
V - Varisian

House Rules
"Rolled" hit points: maximum at first level; your die roll or 1/2 the maximum die roll at each level thereafter.

Cure spells: if cast outside of combat and casting time is increased to one minute, the spell is automatically maximized.

Item creation: considering substitute for XP cost

Goblins: they are small fey and their abilities differ a little from what is in the SRD. Once we get started, I'll post a "knowledge tree" and you can see how much your characters know.

I've completed the intro for all except Naelah and I think Rags is about 90-95% done w/ Slidell. Everything else looks good so far, but I'll give it one more look today at lunch time.


Male Human Ranger 1

hmm... I didn't realize we were an all human party. I don't think that has happened in ages in my normal gaming group.

*And I have to buy some basic mundane equipment (ie. rations, etc) and a backup weapon (probably warhammer or mace) to my list. I'll get that done this morning


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

I don't think I've ever been in or seen an all human party... kind of cool though!

Cheliax

Lots of Chelaxians (sp?), too. From the bit that is written about Varisians in the player's guide, I'm kind of viewing them (and thus, Vesh) as a melded Italian/Gypsy kind of culture.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic
santinj@ wrote:
Lots of Chelaxians (sp?), too. From the bit that is written about Varisians in the player's guide, I'm kind of viewing them (and thus, Vesh) as a melded Italian/Gypsy kind of culture.

And the Chelaxian immigrants into Varisia are more of a melting pot than the ones back home if I read rightly.

Cheliax

FabesMinis wrote:
I don't think I've ever been in or seen an all human party... kind of cool though!

Yeah, it kind of adds a certain element of wonder when there are no demi-humans in the group. It also gives the party to play out the differences between the human racial subgroups. This should be fun.


FabesMinis wrote:
I don't think I've ever been in or seen an all human party... kind of cool though!

Wow, Me either. My groups usually end up being ALL different races (anything but human), or mostly elvish.

Cool, guess we'll be making liberal use of torches, lanterns & light spells, huh?!? At least the "bad guys" will KNOW their doom is approaching!
:)

Cheliax

Corran wrote:
Dragon 326 had several different Ranger Combat Styles in the Class Acts.

Hey Talion09, I've got a question about this Dragon Mag. I've always wanted to see different combat style options for Rangers, so I'm interested in picking up this back issue. When you say it has "several" different options, about how many would you say it has? I'm not interested in much else in this issue, so if it only has, like, two or three I'll pass. Thanks.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
santinj@ wrote:
Corran wrote:
Dragon 326 had several different Ranger Combat Styles in the Class Acts.
Hey Talion09, I've got a question about this Dragon Mag. I've always wanted to see different combat style options for Rangers, so I'm interested in picking up this back issue. When you say it has "several" different options, about how many would you say it has? I'm not interested in much else in this issue, so if it only has, like, two or three I'll pass. Thanks.

Off the top of my head... I think it was 5. It was just a 1 page Class Acts article. Each style has an intro paragraph, and then a list of the 3 feats you would get at 2nd/6th/whenever you get the last ranger combat style feat.

- Power Attack Style (that was my pick)
- Mounted Combat Style
- Unarmed/Grappling Style (I remember the intro was essentially about rangers who were like the Crocodile Hunter, lol)
- Throwing Weapons style
- And I think one more I can't remember off the top of my head.

*I've got the magazine at home right now actually, so I can check later on today.


I've gone over the characters a bit, mostly looking at skills, feats, and ABs. Everything looks pretty good w/ following possible exceptions:

Both Corran and Malcolm are "shaky", but should the penalty be -2 or -3; and should it apply to Malcolm's thrown dagger as well? I don't have UA, so I cannot check this one.

Ehlissa seems to have about 14 skill ranks, if I'm counting correctly. Shouldn't she have 20 ranks (2 class + 2 Int + 1 race)x4?

Malcolm seems to have 46 skill ranks. Shouldn't he have 44 (8 class + 2 Int + 1 race)x4?

Slidell seems to have 20 skill ranks. Shouldn't he have 24 (2 class + 3 Int + 1 race)x4?

Also, if you speak anything other than common, please note it.

A good choice for Slidell might be Thassilonian - although since no one has spoken that in ages, I think it makes sense that people can interpret the runes, but not pronounce them properly or understand the spoken language.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
JSL wrote:

I've gone over the characters a bit, mostly looking at skills, feats, and ABs. Everything looks pretty good w/ following possible exceptions:

Both Corran and Malcolm are "shaky", but should the penalty be -2 or -3; and should it apply to Malcolm's thrown dagger as well? I don't have UA, so I cannot check this one.

Ehlissa seems to have about 14 skill ranks, if I'm counting correctly. Shouldn't she have 20 ranks (2 class + 2 Int + 1 race)x4?

Malcolm seems to have 46 skill ranks. Shouldn't he have 44 (8 class + 2 Int + 1 race)x4?

Slidell seems to have 20 skill ranks. Shouldn't he have 24 (2 class + 3 Int + 1 race)x4?

Also, if you speak anything other than common, please note it.

A good choice for Slidell might be Thassilonian - although since no one has spoken that in ages, I think it makes sense that people can interpret the runes, but not pronounce them properly or understand the spoken language.

Shaky is -2 to all ranged attacks... so it should apply to thrown weapons as well I believe.

Cheliax

JSL wrote:


Also, if you speak anything other than common, please note it.

Added languages to Vesh. JSL, would it be okay for Vesh to speak Shoanti? Because Vesh is not Shoanti, my rational is that while his clan wandered the Velashu Uplands they might have picked it up in order to trade with any Shoanti tribes they encountered. If it's not okay, can you suggest another language that would be appropriate?


santinj@ wrote:
JSL wrote:


Also, if you speak anything other than common, please note it.
Added languages to Vesh. JSL, would it be okay for Vesh to speak Shoanti? Because Vesh is not Shoanti, my rational is that while his clan wandered the Velashu Uplands they might have picked it up in order to trade with any Shoanti tribes they encountered. If it's not okay, can you suggest another language that would be appropriate?

That seems reasonable. The languages are probably closely related anyway. I suspect the Shoanti do not have a written language, however.


Male Human Wizard 2/Sor 1
JSL wrote:

I've gone over the characters a bit, mostly looking at skills, feats, and ABs. Everything looks pretty good w/ following possible exceptions:

Slidell seems to have 20 skill ranks. Shouldn't he have 24 (2 class + 3 Int + 1 race)x4?

A good choice for Slidell might be Thassilonian - although since no one has spoken that in ages, I think it makes sense that people can interpret the runes, but not pronounce them properly or understand the spoken language.

I actually have Thassilonian listed, but I put it in the "top" section where the site gives you a place to put things, I will copy all the relevant languages, etc., into the main body of my info area.

Question, I also listed "Fey" but I don't know if that would be a language, I can see where if a person knew Elvish, they might catch a few words of other fey speech, like goblin or fairies, but probably wouldn't catch the whole thing.
In short, if "Fey" gives me at least a general understanding of ALL fey speak, I'll probably take it, otherwise I'll stick with Elvish for the obvious Mystical research reasons.

Your right about the skill points, I grabbed what I thought was right, but forgot about the racial points. I'll add 4 more to his list shortly. Thanks for checking.

Working, but will add up gear cost totals and stats for Familiar asap.

Does anyone know WHICH book had the "Standard Adventurer's Pack" in it?!? I remember seeing it while researching this character, but now that I'm ready for it, I can't find it!

Also, does anyone have a link to an "Elvish" language site? I'm not a hard-core get-it-right nut, but I hate going to the trouble to make up phrases in another language if there's someone else that's already done it for me!

Thanks,


santinj@ wrote:
Lots of Chelaxians (sp?), too. From the bit that is written about Varisians in the player's guide, I'm kind of viewing them (and thus, Vesh) as a melded Italian/Gypsy kind of culture.

The way I read it, the Varisians are the Gypsy-ish culture, (I didn't catch the Italian possibility, good thinking) But are probably descended from what was once a "mighty" civilization. While the Chelaxians are most likely to be the current "big-city" dwellers. And judging by the references to the Chelax demon-summoning mages & civilization, very likely to think of the Varisians (or at least the Shoanti) as county bumpkins, or worse.

Interesting possibilities. Of course the way I see Slidell he will be pretty much accepting of anyone and find their culture "Fascinating". Except for the ones who are trying to kill him, of course.

:P


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Depends what you mean by "Elvish" - if you mean "as spoken in D&D" to my knowledge there isn't one.

You can try looking up Quenya or Sildarin for the two main Elvish languages spoken by Tolkien's elves; a lot of work went into those. Or you can look up "conlang" - there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of made-up languages out there, often constructed by philologists and linguists. My advice - find one you like the sound of and use it.

@JSL - thanks for the skill points heads up - I really must have been tired writing it up. So many errors! Should be sorted now.

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer 10/ Writer 7/University Student 5.
Slidell Stormraven wrote:


Also, does anyone have a link to an "Elvish" language site? I'm not a hard-core get-it-right nut, but I hate going to the trouble to make up phrases in another language if there's someone else that's already done it for me!

Thanks,

link

Try this, it's awesome!

Cheliax

Ragadolf wrote:

The way I read it, the Varisians are the Gypsy-ish culture, (I didn't catch the Italian possibility, good thinking)

That reveals my bias. Anytime I read "olive skin" I immediately insert Italian. Probably because I'm half Italian myself! Gypsy-ish is probably ea much more accurate description for Varisians...as long as they have a good recipe for Gnocci in their culture, I'm good!

Ragadolf wrote:

But are probably descended from what was once a "mighty" civilization. While the Chelaxians are most likely to be the current "big-city" dwellers. And judging by the references to the Chelax demon-summoning mages & civilization, very likely to think of the Varisians (or at least the Shoanti) as county bumpkins, or worse.

That's pretty much what I was thinking as well. The whole 'high' vs. 'low' culture thing.


Slidell Stormraven wrote:


Question, I also listed "Fey" but I don't know if that would be a language, I can see where if a person knew Elvish, they might catch a few words of other fey speech, like goblin or fairies, but probably wouldn't catch the whole thing.

Fey normally speak Sylvan, which is also commonly known by elves. The two languages could be related and maybe are in 4E where elves have been described as "fey".

Goblins have their own language, a corrupted dialect of Sylvan. While the two languages may share some structure, they are as interchangable as Welsh and English (i.e., not very).

If we say common is like English (having words from many different origins), Thassilonian might be Latin and the languages of the Varisians and Shoanti might be like Spanish and Portuguese - distantly derived from Thassilonian and similar to each other, but still different. Chelish is probably altogether different: Germanic, for example.

However, for written words, the Thassilonian alphabet would by like Cyrillic characters and the Common/Chelish alphabet like Latin characters.

EDIT: pretty sure the Shoanti don't have an alphabet and undecided about the Varisians. Their tatoos are probably based on the Thassilonian runes, but they may no longer use the original meaning or pronunciation.

So a speaker of Varisian might be able to understand some spoken Thassilonian - if anyone alive spoke it. But a reader of Varisian could never interpret Thassilonian writing. Varisians and Shoanti can communicate broad concepts with each other, though nuances might be lost.

Cheliax

JSL wrote:
...and Portuguese...

My other half! Ola!


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Cool, I like the linguistic parallels a lot. Varisia does have a rather Mediterrean feel to it now in my mind - 'Germanic' peoples did make inroads into the north of what is now Italy and the Iberian peninsula. I'm so excited to start this!


santinj@ wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

The way I read it, the Varisians are the Gypsy-ish culture, (I didn't catch the Italian possibility, good thinking)

That reveals my bias. Anytime I read "olive skin" I immediately insert Italian. Probably because I'm half Italian myself! Gypsy-ish is probably ea much more accurate description for Varisians...as long as they have a good recipe for Gnocci in their culture, I'm good!

Ragadolf wrote:

But are probably descended from what was once a "mighty" civilization. While the Chelaxians are most likely to be the current "big-city" dwellers. And judging by the references to the Chelax demon-summoning mages & civilization, very likely to think of the Varisians (or at least the Shoanti) as county bumpkins, or worse.

That's pretty much what I was thinking as well. The whole 'high' vs. 'low' culture thing.

Yeah, I should have gone there myself, I married a New Orleans native girl, whose grandparents are both full-blood Italians. (Grandad always said he remembered getting off the boat. As a child they had to flee to America to escape Mussolini.)

Cheliax

FabesMinis wrote:
...I'm so excited to start this!

Me too! This should be a lot of fun!

Cheliax

PsionicFox wrote:


link

Try this, it's awesome!

This is pretty cool, or rather "sor air vaeria tyr."


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

I'll fix the skill points.

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer 10/ Writer 7/University Student 5.
santinj@ wrote:
PsionicFox wrote:


link

Try this, it's awesome!

This is pretty cool, or rather "sor air vaeria tyr."

Lol. Clever bastard, aren't you? Or maybe: Taelaes sharas, eisael's o?

Cheliax

PsionicFox wrote:


Lol. Clever bastard, aren't you? Or maybe: Taelaes sharas, eisael's o?

Ha! Don't get me started. You know you tried the f-word too!


Slidell is 99.9% done!!!
I've updated the skills, and added the familiar stats.
The only thing that "needs" to be done is the encumbrance.
(Did I mention that I hate math?!?)
I think the only thing I'm not sure of is the name. (Slidell is actually the name of a town in Oklahoma.) But it was all I could think of that went with Stormraven. But I'm OK with "Sly" as a nickname,... heh.

I am ready & rarin' to go,...this is gonna be fun! (Gonna be weird without the usual elf/dwarf/hobbit/etc banter tho,...But I'm sure we can come up with something,...)

:)


Finished the rest of the intro/background stuff last night and am ready to start except that Naelah's background is still missing. PsionicFox, do you have an ETA on that?

As far as I'm concerned, we can start without full statistics, but I'd like at least the background. Otherwise, you can run with the into paragraph I have and tweak the background in later. Please let me know what you want to do.


JSL wrote:

Finished the rest of the intro/background stuff last night and am ready to start except that Naelah's background is still missing. PsionicFox, do you have an ETA on that?

As far as I'm concerned, we can start without full statistics, but I'd like at least the background. Otherwise, you can run with the into paragraph I have and tweak the background in later. Please let me know what you want to do.

Sorry, Didn't know if you were only wanting a response from Naelah, or if you were waiting for all of us to chime in.

If the latter, I'm good to go.

:)

Cheliax

Ragadolf wrote:


Sorry, Didn't know if you were only wanting a response from Naelah, or if you were waiting for all of us to chime in.
If the latter, I'm good to go.

:)

Ditto that. Ready to go over here!

Cheliax

I know I asked this before on the old forum, but now that we have new players, I'll ask it again for ease of reference. Could you list what time zone you are in? I ask, because I'm curious as to how it'll affect our posting schedule. Perhaps if people gave some indication of how often they are able to post as well? I'll fill in the ones I remember:

JSL (DM) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post daytime weekdays & Saturdays, not Sundays

santinj@ (Vesh) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post often during daytime & occasionally evenings on weekdays, rarely on weekends

FabesMinis (Ehlissa) = UK Summer Time (GMT+1); no indicated posting schedule that I remember

I can't remember if Rags, Psionicfox, or Talion09 responded to this on the other forum.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
santinj@ wrote:

I know I asked this before on the old forum, but now that we have new players, I'll ask it again for ease of reference. Could you list what time zone you are in? I ask, because I'm curious as to how it'll affect our posting schedule. Perhaps if people gave some indication of how often they are able to post as well? I'll fill in the ones I remember:

JSL (DM) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post daytime weekdays & Saturdays, not Sundays

santinj@ (Vesh) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post often during daytime & occasionally evenings on weekdays, rarely on weekends

FabesMinis (Ehlissa) = UK Summer Time (GMT+1); no indicated posting schedule that I remember

I can't remember if Rags, Psionicfox, or Talion09 responded to this on the other forum.

I'm Pacific time as well. I can post in the morning, and then after 11pm or so. (I've got an odd schedule at work right now) In between, I can post at work, but it might be sporadic depending on what exactly I'm doing.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
santinj@ wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:


Sorry, Didn't know if you were only wanting a response from Naelah, or if you were waiting for all of us to chime in.
If the latter, I'm good to go.

:)

Ditto that. Ready to go over here!

Me too

Cheliax

Talion09 wrote:


I'm Pacific time as well. I can post in the morning, and then after 11pm or so. (I've got an odd schedule at work right now) In between, I can post at work, but it might be sporadic depending on what exactly I'm doing.

Funny that at least three of us are on Pacific time! What're the odds?


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

At the moment I can post pretty much any time; after 15th Oct I'll be limited to posting after 6pm (my time) on weekdays, and any time at weekends.


I'm US Central Time,
I have access at work, sometimes I'm busy, and sometimes it seems like all I have to do is read the PbP posts! You know, a "normal" job.

I'm usually on until 12 midnite Central as well, so if it's a busy or late day I can probably catch up most nights.

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer 10/ Writer 7/University Student 5.

I'm on AEST (Australian Eastern Standard), or GMT +10. That's right, I'm talking to you, FROM THE FUTURE!

I have the background and the like done, but its on my laptop. I'll post it when I get to work.

Cheliax

To recap:

JSL (DM) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post daytime weekdays & Saturdays, not Sundays

santinj@ (Vesh) = Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7); can post often during daytime & occasionally evenings on weekdays, rarely on weekends

FabesMinis (Ehlissa) = UK Summer Time (GMT+1); now can post anytime' after Oct 15th can post after 6pm local time or anytime on weekends

Talion09 (Corran) = PDT (GMT-7); can post in AM, then after 11PM, or depending on work during the day

Ragadolf (Slidell) = Central Daylight Time (GMT-5); flexible posting time depending on work, can post most evenings too if necessary

PsionicFox (Naelah) = Australian Eastern Standard (GMT+10); will post from the future...awesome!

I'm excited to play with folks from around the globe. World-wide D&D!


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
PsionicFox wrote:

I'm on AEST (Australian Eastern Standard), or GMT +10. That's right, I'm talking to you, FROM THE FUTURE!

I have the background and the like done, but its on my laptop. I'll post it when I get to work.

I'm sometimes on AEST... depending on how many conference calls I have to make with our Australian office & customers. The compromise that is my normal shift is noon-1030pm PST, which is 5 AM to 330PM AEST. (At least until we both go through daylight savings, which will throw it out of whack even more)

Cheliax

PsionicFox wrote:

I'm on AEST (Australian Eastern Standard), or GMT +10. That's right, I'm talking to you, FROM THE FUTURE!

Good morning! Tomorrow.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Greetings from the centre of time!


Female Human (Shoanti) Druid 3, Sorcerer 1 6,000 XP

Yay for time travel!

Description and BG is up, just weapons armor and gear to go...


Excellent. I'll start the game thread tonight after my kids go to bed (around 8PM PDT).

Cheliax

JSL wrote:
Excellent. I'll start the game thread tonight after my kids go to bed (around 8PM PDT).

Prediction: I will get no work done tomorrow!

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer 10/ Writer 7/University Student 5.

I can prove that, I'll just go ask future-you...

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer 10/ Writer 7/University Student 5.

Yep, no working from you tomorrow!

(well, its tomorrow for you, and today for me...)


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

Mountain Standard Time for me. I can usaully post in the morning for a short while and then again in the evening. I'm online a fair bit on the weekends too.


I am also online a bit on the weekends too,...
(In other words, we seem to be a fairly average PbP group!)

Oh, and Time Travel ROCKS!
(I'm just glad it's not the DM. It would stink if the DM knew your rolls were going to be sucky before you did!)

Psifox, can you ask my future self if I have a good day at work tomorrow?!?

;)


And we're off: link

I've never done this before, so hopefully the intros are intro-y enough. I think its safe to say most of you can see one of the other PCs so, if you can figure out who it is, you don't have to wait for me. I'll check in when I get to work tomorrow and see where things are at.

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