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Hmm, still waiting for Naelah's action. I'm hesitant to proceed w/o it because between Slidell's ray of frost, her produce flame and the wolf's attack, there is a good chance you can take down both goblins next to Corran and Malcolm before they act this round - which could be significant. Ehlissa's action is likely unaffected since she is attacking back to the east. Corran's action is affected only in as much as if he gets a flank his shield attack hits. But elimination of the two goblins likely changes his action from full-attack to move and attack depending on where the goblins coming from the east end up, which in turn depends on whether Naelah and Veren can eliminate one or both goblins.

I'm tempted to just resolve Naelah's action in the most straighforward manner by having her and Veren attack the two goblins. This is probably optimal, given Malcolm's condition.

Opinions?


Male Human Ranger 1
JSL wrote:

Hmm, still waiting for Naelah's action. I'm hesitant to proceed w/o it because between Slidell's ray of frost, her produce flame and the wolf's attack, there is a good chance you can take down both goblins next to Corran and Malcolm before they act this round - which could be significant. Ehlissa's action is likely unaffected since she is attacking back to the east. Corran's action is affected only in as much as if he gets a flank his shield attack hits. But elimination of the two goblins likely changes his action from full-attack to move and attack depending on where the goblins coming from the east end up, which in turn depends on whether Naelah and Veren can eliminate one or both goblins.

I'm tempted to just resolve Naelah's action in the most straighforward manner by having her and Veren attack the two goblins. This is probably optimal, given Malcolm's condition.

Opinions?

I'm ok with that option. If neither target is in front of me for my intended actions, I'd change it to a move + longsword attack vs the goblins that Elhissa is fighting.


JSL wrote:

Hmm, still waiting for Naelah's action. I'm hesitant to proceed w/o it because between Slidell's ray of frost, her produce flame and the wolf's attack, there is a good chance you can take down both goblins next to Corran and Malcolm before they act this round - which could be significant. Ehlissa's action is likely unaffected since she is attacking back to the east. Corran's action is affected only in as much as if he gets a flank his shield attack hits. But elimination of the two goblins likely changes his action from full-attack to move and attack depending on where the goblins coming from the east end up, which in turn depends on whether Naelah and Veren can eliminate one or both goblins.

I'm tempted to just resolve Naelah's action in the most straighforward manner by having her and Veren attack the two goblins. This is probably optimal, given Malcolm's condition.

Opinions?

I was geting ready to ask if anyone had heard from Naelah?

I know that if MY low HP @$$ had been hit, I would vote for straightforward! :)
I don't wanna speak for Malcolm though.
But if the heavy-hitters can clear and give him some breathing room, he can get bandaged, or whatever will help in the middle of a fight. Maybe next round Naelah can give a lil' cure while the armored's close with the next group?

Just thinking out loud. Sorry. ;P


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

I'm an 'armoured' who isn't wearing any armour right now... haha.. so I'm going with the best defence being a good offence. Ehlissa took down one last round, and I think it should be another one this round. If Corran helps her out, we should have the 3 new ones who snuck in eliminated. If worst comes to worst, Ehlissa will have to make a tactical withdrawal and fight defensively.

We'll only really need to bandage Malcolm if he goes into negative points.. cheerful thought there... ;)

Cheliax

Okay, I posted Vesh's actions for R-3 before I saw this discussion. I'm not going to be as busy as I thought this afternoon, so I'll probably be able to keep track of the posts. But, I think I'll let my current post stand now that I know what Corran is thinking. The only way Vesh's actions might change are if the dang goblin under the table cuts off my foot/feet! Or, if the stupid thing goes after my dagger, too!

If that happens (and I don't think my feeble attack is going to drop that goblin--if it hits at all), then perhaps Naelah's poochy could help me out with by attacking and flanking from M-6? (Hint, hint!)

Cheliax

So, I'm wondering if PsionicFox is still with us and okay. Naelah, are you out there? All the Aussies in the house yell woo-woo!


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

Yeah, I'd vote for Naelah going forward with the elimination fo the remaining goblins.
My posting time is going to drop rather drastically until the 15th of November. My father, who was stuck in a very unpleasant management position, got a DWAI in August and just got this little anklet thing that keeps track of his movements so he doesn't deviate from a set schedule. Unfortunately the box that goes with this doohcky has to be plugged into the phone. Since we are on dial-up we don't have internet access for a whole f%$#ing month. Fortunately a friend who lives a couple of miles down the road will let us use his internet. I should be able to post on Fridays (mostly in the evening), sometimes Thursdays, and maybe a few othr days for a little while. I'm really enjoying the campaign so far and would like to continue but if you don't want to have such an unreliable player for a month I will completley understand if you want to replace me. I'd prefer to keep my slot but I'd understand. And yes, I'm pretty pissed at him.


Female Human (Shoanti) Druid 3, Sorcerer 1 6,000 XP

SORRY!

It's been crazy at work lately, what with long meetings, people quitting, and thus me being given more work to do. I promise that I'll be able to post in a few hours though.

And yes, I'll probably rumble those two goblins, like you thought.

Again, sorry!


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Will no-one think of poor N12 and his pie? It's as story as old as time itself... what profit a goblin if he lose his pie? Oh the humanity!


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

I wanna keel-haul him! Once I get my boat repaired that is.

Cheliax

JSL wrote:
The remaining goblin N12 ignores the furious battle and jumps on top of the table to pick through scraps of hastily abandoned food. Finding what looks like a custard pie, it settles down to enjoy an evening repast.

I skipped right over that! Even after Ehlissa pointed it out, I had to go back and look. These goblins are hilarious!


Arctaris wrote:

Yeah, I'd vote for Naelah going forward with the elimination fo the remaining goblins.

My posting time is going to drop rather drastically until the 15th of November. My father, who was stuck in a very unpleasant management position, got a DWAI in August and just got this little anklet thing that keeps track of his movements so he doesn't deviate from a set schedule. Unfortunately the box that goes with this doohcky has to be plugged into the phone. Since we are on dial-up we don't have internet access for a whole f@&*ing month. Fortunately a friend who lives a couple of miles down the road will let us use his internet. I should be able to post on Fridays (mostly in the evening), sometimes Thursdays, and maybe a few othr days for a little while. I'm really enjoying the campaign so far and would like to continue but if you don't want to have such an unreliable player for a month I will completely understand if you want to replace me. I'd prefer to keep my slot but I'd understand. And yes, I'm pretty pissed at him.

Ummm,... Bummer?

Seriously, sorry dude. I hate it when stoopid things happen. (Even more so when they are MY fault!)

MY vote is to let you keep your slot. You seem like a nice enough guy, If you give @JSL, or any of us, permission to "robot-ize" you inbetween your postings, I don't see any reason to punish you for something that wasn't your fault.

And I mean, seriously, with all of modern technology at their disposal, they have to commandeer your phone?!? Haven't these morons heard of DSL technology?!? You can use it, AND your phone at the same time! Why can't they use that to monitor the lil' ankle-bracelets?

I'm just sayin',.... ;)

Good luck with everything, I'll look forward to your (infrequent) postings!

PS- I HAVE to say this, because I assume it, but you can never tell with type-only messages,... The above was my attempt to be funny, but sincere, and was not intended to insult you or make light of your father's situation. Good luck, talk to you when you can!


Naelah wrote:

SORRY!

It's been crazy at work lately, what with long meetings, people quitting, and thus me being given more work to do. I promise that I'll be able to post in a few hours though.

And yes, I'll probably rumble those two goblins, like you thought.

Again, sorry!

Sokay,

(Believe me, I understand how work can be!)
I'm just glad to find that your still in our general space-time continuum, what with talking to us from the future and all!

Go get'em Naelah! (and Veren!)


FabesMinis wrote:
Will no-one think of poor N12 and his pie? It's as story as old as time itself... what profit a goblin if he lose his pie? Oh the humanity!

Heehe, WHY do I suddenly have the urge to NUKE the lil' bugger, then walk over and say,...'MY pie!"

FabesMinis wrote:
Let N12 eat his pie in peace! Besides, I want to interrogate the little git...

Seriously, in the interest of trying to keep MY excessive chatter out of our "game" post,...

Sli has a spell memorized that would make capturing the lil bugger pretty easy, but I honestly don't know if he would think of it. (If he is hearing any other screaming/attacks going on, he would probably try to save his FEW remaining spells for later use) But if someone were to mention it?,.....

'Food' for thought? (Oooo, and the puns are off!)


Arctaris wrote:
...but if you don't want to have such an unreliable player for a month I will completley understand if you want to replace me. I'd prefer to keep my slot but I'd understand. And yes, I'm pretty pissed at him.

I don't have a problem with it. However, today is the first time Malcolm has encountered the rest of the party and he needs to introduce himself. I would really rather you handled that even if the middle of combat seems like an inappropriate time. We can simply assume the conversation occurs after the combat is resolved.

Alternately, if you think it would be easier, Malcolm could chase a goblin off the map, effectively exiting this encounter and stumble upon the party later in the adventure.

I can deal with it either way, but I'm in the more for the role-playing than the roll-playing, so I'd really like you to introduce your character/converse with others. If necessary, I can move you around during combat, but I'd need you to have some input on what your style will be. I don't really see Malcolm as being the cooperative team-player type who is willing to set screens and flanks for his allies. I see him as more the type who will move so his allies flank for him, even if that puts someone else in danger and will fight to *his* best advantage, not the group's best advantage.

Cheliax

So...what else can we talk about? Hmm. Anybody see The Office last night?


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

OKay - here's what I'm going to do, for a) character purposes and b) comedy value. Ehlissa will take off her cloak (steady boys) and try to bundle the goblin into it(with Corran's help?) - this way we can have a laugh, Ehlissa doesn't have to attack a defenceless foe and we can maybe get some answers from him? Of course, feel free to ignore the above, so Ehlissa can go ape at you afterwards for being 'dishonourable' ;)

@Rags - there's a space available in my Oriental Adventures game.

Cheliax

FabesMinis wrote:
Ehlissa will take off her cloak (steady boys)

Should we queue the burlesque music now? Va-voom!

FabesMinis wrote:


and try to bundle the goblin into it

This is getting better all the time! I can see Vesh's 4th round action now: Vesh spots a bag of popcorn on the table at L-6, he grabs it and a front-row seat as the woman and her companion hold her cloak between them like a net. His gash momentarily forgotten, Vesh kicks back and watches the show about to start. *Hilarity ensues.*

Rags ~ How, exactly, does Slidell forget that he can Daze the c#$% out of the pie-eater? I'm assuming he just prepared the spell just this morning, no? Daze away, man! Daze away!

FabesMinis wrote:
@Rags - there's a space available in my Oriental Adventures game.

Read: @Everyone Else - you are all chopped liver.

Just kidding ;)


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic
santinj@ wrote:

Read: @Everyone Else - you are all chopped liver.

Just kidding ;)

He asked first, so nahhhhh. ;)

Cheliax

I've been looking for a life on Craigslist, but there are only used ones.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

I looked for a life, but couldn't find it.

Cheliax

You know it's sad when Rags isn't even posting responses to our silliness.


I found a life, tried it.
It did NOT live up to the advertised hype!!!

I WANT MY MONEY BACK!
(Stoopid no-return policies!)

:P

Santinj@ wrote:
Rags ~ How, exactly, does Slidell forget that he can Daze the c#$% out of the pie-eater? I'm assuming he just prepared the spell just this morning, no? Daze away, man! Daze away!

He wouldn't 'forget' that has Daze mem'd,... (well, ok, it COULD happen!) But he's either the BEST planner in the continent, or the worst fly-by-seat-of-your-pants person you'll ever meet. It all depends if he KNOWS what he is going up against, and/or if his easily distracted self notices what else is going on around him.

Right now, his first instinct would be to try and imitate Vesh's dagger-throwing technique, and try to hit the same goblin with his own dagger. Just to see if he could do it. (Despite the fact that he has a crossbow on his hip!)
Otherwise, Like I 'joked' earlier, he would probably blast the pie-eater, and tell him "Bad Goblin! MY pie!"
:)

Santinj@ wrote:
You know it's sad when Rags isn't even posting responses to our silliness.

Sheesh, give a guy a CHANCE willya!

(See "LIFE" post above!) :P


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3
Ragadolf wrote:

Ummm,... Bummer?

Seriously, sorry dude. I hate it when stoopid things happen. (Even more so when they are MY fault!)

MY vote is to let you keep your slot. You seem like a nice enough guy, If you give @JSL, or any of us, permission to "robot-ize" you inbetween your postings, I don't see any reason to punish you for something that wasn't your fault.

And I mean, seriously, with all of modern technology at their disposal, they have to commandeer your phone?!? Haven't these morons heard of DSL technology?!? You can use it, AND your phone at the same time! Why can't they use that to monitor the lil' ankle-bracelets?

I'm just sayin',.... ;)

Good luck with everything, I'll look forward to your (infrequent) postings!

PS- I HAVE to say this, because I assume it, but you can never tell with type-only messages,... The above was my attempt to be funny, but sincere, and was not intended to insult you or make light of your father's situation. Good luck, talk to...

Thanks. I did see your response as humor (which I appreciate). One of the things in my life is that we live on an old ranch. In a valley. 40 miles away from the nearest town that can be called civilization. Therefore DSL would most likely be prohibatively expensive. I can't wait until I can move out.

JSL

Spoiler:
I believe that there is a brief time built into the adventure right after this battle for us to rest. During that time I can briefly introduce myself. If you want I can write up an intro for myself tonight.

I'm fine with being robotized. I'll write up how I respond to stuff and some tactics tonight and post them later. I'll have internet access until about 9 PM tonight.


Regarding Arctaris' situation and present events in the campaign.

After you deal with the last two goblins, there will be a brief respite in the action until more goblins come - don't they always. While it won't amount to more than a couple of minutes in game time, it will be long enough for Malcolm and the rest of the group to chat, make intros, etc. Since Arctaris has computer access now, I think he's going to post his end of things tonight. Even if the battle carries on a little longer, we will proceed with the understanding that all the "Hi, my name is Bob..." happens after the fight.

Alternately, if someone could just post a solid hit on a goblin or two, this could be over very quickly. It is Malcolm's turn in the init order, though he'd have a tough time getting to either goblin. If Naelah does not post by tonight, I think I'll assume she and Veren go for the goblin to the west. If anyone wants to try to capture the other goblin or daze him, go ahead and post to such effect.

Grapple will require a touch attack. He is unarmed, so no AoO for the grapple attempt. If you can pin him, he is considered captured. If more than one character participates in the attempt, take a +2 bonus for the best grappler and make one check. If one person maintains the pin for one round, another can attempt use rope to tie him up with a +5 bonus (DC = his escape artist check result). Keep in mind he is small, but a good escaper. You might be better off to just stun him.

Alternately, you can sap him with the flat of a sword or shield taking the usual penalty for making a non-lethal attack with a lethal weapon.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

OK, I guess we should try to stun him.

Cheliax

JSL wrote:


Alternately, if someone could just post a solid hit on a goblin or two, this could be over very quickly.

What do we look like, Fighters? Barbarians?


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

2 hits, two take-downs. Knight for the win. I thank you.

Cheliax

FabesMinis wrote:
2 hits, two take-downs. Knight for the win. I thank you.

True! You have been quite the goblin crunching machine, but you'd better get you @$$ over to the pie-eater. I think Malcolm is trying to Grapple it!

EDIT--Nice roll.


Working, should be able to post by midnight (CST).
Thx


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

I'm not going to be able to post quite as often as I thought and I haven't been able to write an introduction I've been happy with (sorry I didn't let you know sooner, we left the friend's house where we're using the internet earlier than expected) so I think it'd be easier if I go chase some goblins off screen and return later. Sorry for any inconvienence it might present.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(
Arctaris wrote:
I'm not going to be able to post quite as often as I thought and I haven't been able to write an introduction I've been happy with (sorry I didn't let you know sooner, we left the friend's house where we're using the internet earlier than expected) so I think it'd be easier if I go chase some goblins off screen and return later. Sorry for any inconvienence it might present.

If it works better, you could always take command of the goblin that Ehlissa and Corran captured, while we go off in search of more goblins to smack?


Male Impoverished Student 2/Amateur Chef 3

That would work too. Whichever the rest of you prefer is fine by me.

Cheliax

Seems like a sensible plan to me.


santinj@ wrote:
Seems like a sensible plan to me.

I'm thinking Naelah might stay behind too unless PsionicFox's workload has lightened up. I really don't have the energy to NPC people. Of course she and Malcolm can rejoin the party as soon as they are able.

But that does leave a little issue: Ehlissa needs to be healed before the next battle. With no armor, she is toast. I guess if she is too proud, then so be it, that is good role-playing. But I'm not inclined to make things any easier just b/c of that. I'll leave it to you guys to work out.

I'm enjoying the interaction and probably won't start up until you've all had a chance to correspond.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Well, this is a conundrum and a half. Ehlissa isn't lawful stupid (she does have Int 14 after all), but she is proud. If Corran or Naelah or Vesh suggested firmly that she be healed (as one of the frontline fighters) she would listen and take their advice.

That's one way I can see to roleplay out a metagaming aspect. Work for you guys?

Corran - you and I need to stick together to set up flanking and cover AOOs perhaps? Although Ehlissa can't use flanking bonuses (knight special rule) she can grant them to others normally - so Vesh could sneak attack etc.

Alternatively if someone has a ranged weapon with ammo that Ehlissa can borrow she can stay back and shoot from cover.

Cheliax

Thanks for the head-up, JSL. Here's the deal, Naelah is our healer and a powerful spell caster. I think we're all toast without her. Same goes with Malcolm. He's another flanker/sneak attacker that we'll need. If PsionicFox and/or Arctaris can't post, then one of us should NPC them for the next phase of the battle until they are able to return.

How far from the Rusty Dragon are we? My bow and arrows are back there.

Lastly, JSL, Vesh has some questions on the game forum for you about NPCs.


The Rusty Dragon is on the other side of town.

IIRC, Naelah can convert her Shillagh into cure light. I am even willing to assume it occurs before combat (auto maximized to heal 9 points). After that, I think she's out of offensive spell capability.

I am okay with someone else running Naelah. She has enough hp to survive a hit or two and is a less effective attacker (so less likely to draw return fire). I think it's also safe to assume Naelah would be as helpful as she could.

Arctaris/Malcolm is a little different. He is at 2 hp and has the AC penalty until he hits something due to a flaw. If Naelah heals Ehlissa (probably best), then Malcolm is one hit from being down and *has* to be aggressive or not contribute.

If Arctaris OKs it, then it's fine for one of you to run him. I'm also wary that he really hasn't met the group yet and I'm not sure it's safe to assume he would be as helpful as he could.


Male Human Unfortunately, I appear to be an Expert, not anything cool :-(

I'd just like to apologize for Corran being the stoic silent type lately. I've been a little busy with work (even on the weekend) but I should be able to post far more often now.


JSL wrote:

The Rusty Dragon is on the other side of town.

IIRC, Naelah can convert her Shillagh into cure light. I am even willing to assume it occurs before combat (auto maximized to heal 9 points). After that, I think she's out of offensive spell capability.

I haven't actually LOOKED at Neahlah's character, but I thought that Druids could spontaneously exchange a mem'd spell for a SUMMON spell? And that clerics could exchange for cures?

Or do I just need to hush now, and let the nice warrior-lady who can act as the caster-shield get healed up?!?

;)

Cheliax

Ragadolf wrote:


I haven't actually LOOKED at Neahlah's character, but I thought that Druids could spontaneously exchange a mem'd spell for a SUMMON spell? And that clerics could exchange for cures?

I think Naelah's got a special class feature from one of the 'Completes' or something that allows her to swap for healing spells.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Yeah Rags... quiet... act like nothing happened ;)

Naelah has the Spontaneous Healer feat which allows her to swap out spells like a cleric.

@JSL - I don't suppose I could take you up on that offer to assume Naelah has healed Ehlissa before the gobbos show up.... pretty please haha

Cheliax

FabesMinis wrote:


@JSL - I don't suppose I could take you up on that offer to assume Naelah has healed Ehlissa before the gobbos show up.... pretty please haha

That would free up her first round action, but she couldn't do much anyway as she's out of first level spells and has no ranged weapons.

As a tactical idea, perhaps we could ask Malcolm to (somehow) get some ranged weapons for the group at Savah's armory just down the street. We're kind of SOL in that regard. Good role-playing and good roll playing just don't mix: I'm cursing that I left my bow at Ameiko's!!!


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

From now on, Ehlissa wears armour in towns!

Cheliax

JSL: Please remember to clarify whether or not Naelah was able to heal Ehlissa during our down time or not. It affects her first round action. Thanks.


santinj@ wrote:
JSL: Please remember to clarify whether or not Naelah was able to heal Ehlissa during our down time or not. It affects her first round action. Thanks.

Sorry for the delay. Crazy day at work.

I'll put it in the game thread.

Cheliax

JSL wrote:


Sorry for the delay. Crazy day at work.

No need to apologize. Real life takes precedent.

Cheliax

All of a sudden 'Toughness' is looking like a god feat. Sheesh!


santinj@ wrote:
All of a sudden 'Toughness' is looking like a god feat. Sheesh!

They're perfectly harmless if you don't let them flank you. And since I have played alot of DDM, I know how to set flanks.

I've run a few simlulations with these guys and normal Warrior 1 goblins with the Weapon Focus feat. The warrior goblins are a little more consistent and, much like a PC, will hit a little less than 1/2 the time for 3-4 damage. The sneak attack goblins have lower damage generally. But when they get the sneak, they do more damage. In a way, the PCs have more control - by limiting the sneak attack opportunities, you cut their average damage from 5-6 down to 1-2.

Fortunately for you guys, most of the big bad guys do not have sneak attack damage. Of course, you probably won't like what they do have.

Once everyone levels up the goblins will be much less of an instant kill threat.

One thing to consider, if you don't mind me saying, is that when only one or two of you beats the goblins in initiative, delay or ready actions so they have to go first. Especially from range - they are really worthless at range and will try to close. They are also stupid and I've been making honest effort to have at least one goblin do something sub-optimal each round.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Ahh... but the problem is... I'm pretty stupid at games in real life; unlike your goblins, I don't have to pretend to be sub-optimal :). I am absolutely terrible at tactics and strategy; I tend to go for the action that's the easiest and coolest at the time. Hence my continual fighting challenges and charging into battle to defend the helpless.

Now you point out sneak attack etc, I can see that Ehlissa is in trouble but it wouldn't be right for her to hang back when a friend is in danger. It's just jolly well not on! ;)

These are honestly the most dangerous goblins I've ever fought... er... one of my characters has ever fought... yes, not me. I never fight goblins.

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