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Erik,
Just finished Planet Stories: Dark World. Great. Stuff. Thanks for that one. Can't believe I missed it in my previous life, and now I'm glad I haven't.
PS Wow. That was some wacky use of tense. We should invent whole new verb cases in English to accommodate past lives and time travel. Or maybe just in Esperanto.
I think Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart is still in print, but not its sequels The Story of the Stone and Eight Skilled Gentlemen. Double awesome with extra sprinkles.The works of Thomas Burnett Swann.
The Cthulhiana of Brian Lumley -- Titus Crow, and the Dreamlands series starring David Hero and Eldin the Wanderer. Both would, incidentally, work terrifically well in a Golarion framework, especially if it's true that Golarion shares Earth's Dreamlands.
Hughart is just about to be : - http://www.subterraneanpress.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Prod uct_Code=hughart&Category_Code=PRE&Product_Count=16
What did Burnett Swan write that is Planet Storiesesque?
Don't think Titus Crow really is.
The first Titus Crow book, The Burrowers Beneath, really isn't. I could argue for or against The Transition of Titus Crow.
But The Clock of Dreams, Spawn of the Winds, and In The Moons of Borea are totally planetary-romance books.
The first Titus Crow book, The Burrowers Beneath, really isn't. I could argue for or against The Transition of Titus Crow.
But The Clock of Dreams, Spawn of the Winds, and In The Moons of Borea are totally planetary-romance books.
Lumley is also neither obscure, overlooked, from the past, or not available either, so doesn't fit from that point of view, either, I think. Plus I'd imagine it is likely someone else happily has rights to his stuff.
I think Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart is still in print, but not its sequels The Story of the Stone and Eight Skilled Gentlemen. Double awesome with extra sprinkles.The works of Thomas Burnett Swann.
The Cthulhiana of Brian Lumley -- Titus Crow, and the Dreamlands series starring David Hero and Eldin the Wanderer. Both would, incidentally, work terrifically well in a Golarion framework, especially if it's true that Golarion shares Earth's Dreamlands.
Hughart is just about to be : - http://www.subterraneanpress.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Prod uct_Code=hughart&Category_Code=PRE&Product_Count=16
What did Burnett Swan write that is Planet Storiesesque?
Don't think Titus Crow really is.
no,nothing remotely planetstoriesish about thomas...it's good though...does anyone know the order in which rider haggard's 'she' series should be read?
True, true...
How about the Radio Man books by Ralph Farley?
...does anyone know the order in which rider haggard's 'she' series should be read?
The She, or Ayesha, series:
---She (1887)
---Ayesha: The Return of She (1905)
---She and Allan (1921)
---Wisdom's Daughter: The Life and Love Story of She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed (1923)
P.S. You may want to read some of his Allan Quatermain series (which are awesome) before reading ‘She and Allan’.
...does anyone know the order in which rider haggard's 'she' series should be read?
The She, or Ayesha, series:
---She (1887)
---Ayesha: The Return of She (1905)
---She and Allan (1921)
---Wisdom's Daughter: The Life and Love Story of She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed (1923)
P.S. You may want to read some of his Allan Quatermain series (which are awesome) before reading ‘She and Allan’.
thanks a lot for that!...i have them from a few different publishers and it's just unclear from the covers/intro's...if the others are half as good as 'she' (and ALL the other haggard i've read),it's something to really look forward to...i love the guy,especially 'eric brighteyes' and 'morning star'...i s'pose you could argue about it but it seems to me haggard was the guy who started it all!
True, true...
How about the Radio Man books by Ralph Farley?
hell yes!!...don't worry,it's been suggested and it's on the way (apparently)
The first Titus Crow book, The Burrowers Beneath, really isn't. I could argue for or against The Transition of Titus Crow.
But The Clock of Dreams, Spawn of the Winds, and In The Moons of Borea are totally planetary-romance books.
Ok, actually haven't read the last three there. Significantly different, then?
Ok, actually haven't read the last three there. Significantly different, then?
Pretty much. Clock is De Marigny's chance to shine, as Kthanid informs him that Titus and Tiania are trapped in the Dreamlands.
Spawn is the closest to straight-up P.R.; it concerns the fate of a Wilmarth Foundation team mentioned briefly in Burrowers, snatched away by Ithaqua and brought to his real stomping grounds, the arctic world of Borea, where they are caught up in a war between pro- and anti-Ithaqua human tribes, the latter led by his renegade half-human daughter.
Moons brings de Marigny and Titus to Borea, on a mission that I can't recall properly as it's been years since I had a copy of that or the last book, Elysia: the Coming of Cthulhu, in which the stars come right once and for all, and the casts of all three of Lumley's Cthulhu series must unite to face the released Mythos pantheon head on.
A couple more, both of which are only partial fits, but that I think are worthy...
-Dave Duncan's "Seventh Sword" trilogy is sort of a combination of planetary romance and conventional high fantasy... both subverted to heck and back. Fairly recent (80s) but out of print to the best of my knowledge, and leaving anything by Duncan out of print has got to be some sort of crime. (His eight-book series A Man of his Word/A Handful of Men, while not fitting Planet Stories' imprimatur at all, is likewise out of print and really should get back in somehow.)
-Much closer to the mark, the Gandalara Cycle. The final work of Randall Garrett, completed posthumously (or post brain injuriously, I can't recall which) by his wife Vicki Ann Heydron; also 80s, but it's Randall Garrett, people! Aged and dying ex-Marine Ricardo Carillo is struck (he assumes) by a meteor, only to awaken in a young, strong, not quite human body inhabiting the desert world of Gandalara. All good so far... but his new body used to belong to someone else, who had certain issues that he's inherited... like family problems and massive gambling debts... and what looks like a simple quest to recover a stolen jewel (that said body's former owner may or may not have helped to steal) turns out to have far greater consequences than he could have imagined.
Ok, actually haven't read the last three there. Significantly different, then?Pretty much. Clock is De Marigny's chance to shine, as Kthanid informs him that Titus and Tiania are trapped in the Dreamlands.
Spawn is the closest to straight-up P.R.; it concerns the fate of a Wilmarth Foundation team mentioned briefly in Burrowers, snatched away by Ithaqua and brought to his real stomping grounds, the arctic world of Borea, where they are caught up in a war between pro- and anti-Ithaqua human tribes, the latter led by his renegade half-human daughter.
Moons brings de Marigny and Titus to Borea, on a mission that I can't recall properly as it's been years since I had a copy of that or the last book, Elysia: the Coming of Cthulhu, in which the stars come right once and for all, and the casts of all three of Lumley's Cthulhu series must unite to face the released Mythos pantheon head on.
Thanks! Hopefully I'll find 'em sometime.
I’ve got a few book ideas for you:
I posted some book ideas a couple weeks back (on page seven, I think) and I’ve never got an answer.
At first I thought it was because of Christmas being just around the corner and you all were busy getting ready for the holidays, but then I noticed that posts were still being put up and answered elsewhere on your site.Perhaps my post slipped by under the radar somehow, if so, I’d just like to draw your attention to it.
I don’t want to be a bother, but I would like to hear what you think of my suggestions.
Merry Christmas,
---Theris
I’ve got a few book ideas for you:
“Space Hawk” by Anthony Gilmore
I’ve recently read “Space Vulture” (a modern tribute to pulp sci-fi) by Gary K. Wolf (creator of Roger Rabbit) and Archbishop John J. Myers. In the introduction to it they speak fondly of “Space Hawk”, it was “Space Hawk” that started them on sci-fi and inspired them to write.
I haven’t read “Space Hawk”, so I can’t recommend it personally, but I think it’s worth looking into. I’ve searched for it on Amazon but the only copies available are old, used, and expensive. As far as I can tell, it hasn’t been in print for at least fifty years.
If you were to publish it, I’m sure you could easily get Gary K. Wolf or John J. Myers (or both) to write an introduction.“The Goddess of Atvatabar” by William R. Bradshaw
“Goddess of Atvatabar” is an early hollow-earth adventure, preceding ERB’s Pellucidar series by several years at least.
Sadly, another book I haven’t read. But I’ve heard it’s good and I’d like to read it (though I’d rather read it in a new Planet Stories edition than in an old falling-apart antique). I believe it’s also out of print.“The Wizard of Venus” by Edgar Rice Burroughs
It’s a novelette, so you’d have to include other material---how about “Elmer”, the ERB story that was edited into being “The Resurrection of Jimber-Jaw”. (“Elmer” has not seen print since 2001, in a limited edition anthology)---to fill out the book. You could almost recreate the old “Tales of Three Planets” collection.
“Wizard of Venus” is the only story from any of ERB’s more famous series’ that is not being published by Leonaur.I’d love it if you published any of the above, particularly “Space Hawk”.
Hope to hear from you soon,
---Theris
well i for one would love to read 'The Goddess of Atvatabar'!...i've heard of it i think...'Space Hawk', who knows?...'The Wizard of Venus' wasn't anything to write home about...it was ok...just
A couple more, both of which are only partial fits, but that I think are worthy...
-Dave Duncan's "Seventh Sword" trilogy is sort of a combination of planetary romance and conventional high fantasy... both subverted to heck and back. Fairly recent (80s) but out of print to the best of my knowledge, and leaving anything by Duncan out of print has got to be some sort of crime. (His eight-book series A Man of his Word/A Handful of Men, while not fitting Planet Stories' imprimatur at all, is likewise out of print and really should get back in somehow.)
-Much closer to the mark, the Gandalara Cycle. The final work of Randall Garrett, completed posthumously (or post brain injuriously, I can't recall which) by his wife Vicki Ann Heydron; also 80s, but it's Randall Garrett, people! Aged and dying ex-Marine Ricardo Carillo is struck (he assumes) by a meteor, only to awaken in a young, strong, not quite human body inhabiting the desert world of Gandalara. All good so far... but his new body used to belong to someone else, who had certain issues that he's inherited... like family problems and massive gambling debts... and what looks like a simple quest to recover a stolen jewel (that said body's former owner may or may not have helped to steal) turns out to have far greater consequences than he could have imagined.
have you been inside a second hand bookshop lately?...or a st vinnies?...that Gandalara stuff is everywhere...cheap too...i've read about ten Randall Garrett books and stories and i think it's all crap...another one of these third rate writers using everyone else's ideas(but the critics love it)...like Gardiner Fox or Lin Carter or something...'Kyrik and The Lost Queen' by Fox gets about 4/10...nah,3...here's a list of Catherine Moore stories that i don't think have ever been re-published...'Miracle in Three Dimensions','Greater Glories',Greater than Gods','There Shall be Darkness'...and as Lawrence O'Donnell,'This is The House','Paradise Street','Promised Land',The Code' and 'Heir Apparent'...now that would be a real coup to get that stuff!...also 'Judgement Night'(novel)
Have i mentioned Peter Dagmar?...he was good.
Do you know what the status is of the Zothique stories by Clark Ashton Smith? There's a blog that just started creating an OD&D booklet set in that world but I'm having a devil of a time tracking down the fiction so I can better follow along.
The blog is http://eiglophian.blogspot.com.
If they are out of print, is this something Paizo could pursue?
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I’ve got a few book ideas for you:
“Space Hawk” by Anthony Gilmore
I’ve recently read “Space Vulture” (a modern tribute to pulp sci-fi) by Gary K. Wolf (creator of Roger Rabbit) and Archbishop John J. Myers. In the introduction to it they speak fondly of “Space Hawk”, it was “Space Hawk” that started them on sci-fi and inspired them to write.
I haven’t read “Space Hawk”, so I can’t recommend it personally, but I think it’s worth looking into. I’ve searched for it on Amazon but the only copies available are old, used, and expensive. As far as I can tell, it hasn’t been in print for at least fifty years.
If you were to publish it, I’m sure you could easily get Gary K. Wolf or John J. Myers (or both) to write an introduction.“The Goddess of Atvatabar” by William R. Bradshaw
“Goddess of Atvatabar” is an early hollow-earth adventure, preceding ERB’s Pellucidar series by several years at least.
Sadly, another book I haven’t read. But I’ve heard it’s good and I’d like to read it (though I’d rather read it in a new Planet Stories edition than in an old falling-apart antique). I believe it’s also out of print.“The Wizard of Venus” by Edgar Rice Burroughs
It’s a novelette, so you’d have to include other material---how about “Elmer”, the ERB story that was edited into being “The Resurrection of Jimber-Jaw”. (“Elmer” has not seen print since 2001, in a limited edition anthology)---to fill out the book. You could almost recreate the old “Tales of Three Planets” collection.
“Wizard of Venus” is the only story from any of ERB’s more famous series’ that is not being published by Leonaur.I’d love it if you published any of the above, particularly “Space Hawk”.
Hope to hear from you soon,
---Theris
Sorry I missed this post the first time through.
You'll be happy to know that our senior editor Pierce Watters gave me a copy of SPACE HAWK for Christmas, so it's now officially on the reading list. I have read that the main character's black sidekick was openly referred to by the N-word in the original printing, and that this was changed in the hardcover version. YIKES.
It looks like a lot of fun, though, and it comes very highly recommended by Pierce, which is a strong indicator of quality.
As for Burroughs, there's been a lot of chaos at the estate lately, and we are having the damndest time getting through to them. I will be rereading all the Mars and Venus books in 2009, so I'll make sure I get to The Wizard of Venus. I have not previously read it.
I've only come across The Goddess of Atvatabar in articles about lost world stories, and I've never seen a copy of it. I'll keep my eyes open, though.
Thanks for the suggestions!
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here's a list of Catherine Moore stories that i don't think have ever been re-published...'Miracle in Three Dimensions','Greater Glories',Greater than Gods','There Shall be Darkness'...and as Lawrence O'Donnell,'This is The House','Paradise Street','Promised...
A lot of that stuff was published in 2008 in a book called "Miracle in Three Dimensions," by Isle Press. It's a small outfit, but I've got a copy of the book and it's got a lot of rare stuff. I believe it includes all of the previously un-republished Moore material prior to her collaborations with Kuttner (other than the Jirel and NWS stories, which Planet Stories got to first).
I think you can order direct from the publisher here:
http://www.islepress.com/id1.html
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Do you know what the status is of the Zothique stories by Clark Ashton Smith? There's a blog that just started creating an OD&D booklet set in that world but I'm having a devil of a time tracking down the fiction so I can better follow along.
The blog is http://eiglophian.blogspot.com.
If they are out of print, is this something Paizo could pursue?
They were on my early hunt list, but my current understanding is that Night Shade will be reprinting all of these soon. They already have several handsome volumes in the "complete CAS" series, so I'd prefer not to step on their toes. As good as those stories are, there are plenty of authors who do not already have quality publishers releasing their material.
Thanks for the reply!
I wouldn’t worry too much about Wizard of Venus if I were you. I’d read it awhile ago and suggested it primarily because you had said your main reason for not publishing Burroughs was because all his best books were still in print, mostly by Leonaur. [How’s that for a long sentence?] I found that they weren’t publishing WoV so I suggested it to you.
When Johnny Jessup described it as “nothing to write home about” I went back and reread it, and I’m afraid he’s right. Sorry about that. I’ll be more careful what I suggest in future.
Don’t get me wrong, ERB’s my favorite author, but maybe one of his other works would suit your line better.
P.S. One of ERB’s non-planetary romances, ‘The Mucker trilogy’, is quite good and not widely available (okay, Leonaur is publishing it, but Barnes & Noble isn’t and they don’t carry the Leonaur volumes at B&N, so you wouldn’t be missing out on that market).
I personally really enjoyed the Mucker stories and highly recommend them.
Yeah, The Wizard Of Venus definitely isn't any good.
Not quite enough swordfights and exploding robots, in my view.
With a couple of rare exceptions, I want the focus on the line to be on ADVENTURE stories more than think-pieces, and I (rightly or wrongly) tend to place Pohl in the latter category.
Quite true. He is still a good read, however.
here's a list of Catherine Moore stories that i don't think have ever been re-published...'Miracle in Three Dimensions','Greater Glories',Greater than Gods','There Shall be Darkness'...and as Lawrence O'Donnell,'This is The House','Paradise Street','Promised...A lot of that stuff was published in 2008 in a book called "Miracle in Three Dimensions," by Isle Press. It's a small outfit, but I've got a copy of the book and it's got a lot of rare stuff. I believe it includes all of the previously un-republished Moore material prior to her collaborations with Kuttner (other than the Jirel and NWS stories, which Planet Stories got to first).
I think you can order direct from the publisher here:
http://www.islepress.com/id1.html
Cool cool cool...thanks,i'm so there!!
Not quite enough swordfights and exploding robots, in my view.
With a couple of rare exceptions, I want the focus on the line to be on ADVENTURE stories more than think-pieces, and I (rightly or wrongly) tend to place Pohl in the latter category.
Yeah, not that sort of writer at all, Pohl, generally speaking.
here's a list of Catherine Moore stories that i don't think have ever been re-published...'Miracle in Three Dimensions','Greater Glories',Greater than Gods','There Shall be Darkness'...and as Lawrence O'Donnell,'This is The House','Paradise Street','Promised...
For Garrett, here's what I liked :-
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Best Policy
SF-S-4.5 Garrett, Randall : Damned If You Don't - FREE
SW-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Despoilers Of the Golden Empire - FREE
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Highest Treason - FREE
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Hunting Lodge
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Lauralyn
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Suite Mentale - FREE
SF-S-4.5 Garrett, Randall : Time Fuze
and Lord Darcy, of course
As for Catherine Moore, seems you aren't a big enough fan. At least one of those in the reasonably obvious 'Best Of' ;-)
Best of C. L. Moore : Shambleau - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Black Thirst - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : The Bright Illusion - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Black God's Kiss - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Tryst in Time - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Greater Than Gods - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Fruit of Knowledge - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : No Woman Born - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Daemon - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Vintage Season - C. L. Moore
here's a list of Catherine Moore stories that i don't think have ever been re-published...'Miracle in Three Dimensions','Greater Glories',Greater than Gods','There Shall be Darkness'...and as Lawrence O'Donnell,'This is The House','Paradise Street','Promised...For Garrett, here's what I liked :-
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Best Policy
SF-S-4.5 Garrett, Randall : Damned If You Don't - FREE
SW-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Despoilers Of the Golden Empire - FREE
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Highest Treason - FREE
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : The Hunting Lodge
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Lauralyn
SF-S-4.0 Garrett, Randall : Suite Mentale - FREE
SF-S-4.5 Garrett, Randall : Time Fuzeand Lord Darcy, of course
As for Catherine Moore, seems you aren't a big enough fan. At least one of those in the reasonably obvious 'Best Of' ;-)
Best of C. L. Moore : Shambleau - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Black Thirst - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : The Bright Illusion - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Black God's Kiss - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Tryst in Time - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Greater Than Gods - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Fruit of Knowledge - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : No Woman Born - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Daemon - C. L. Moore
Best of C. L. Moore : Vintage Season - C. L. Moore
Oops,yes you're right,Greater than Gods' is in there...the others are the only ones i've heard of that i don't have,except for a few more with Kuttner as Lewis Padgett...no one's a bigger fan than me!!...i think Jirel is definitely the best Fantasy series ever...if only there was more of it...god i just read the little thing about Paizo policies at the bottom!...i didn't realize we weren't supposed to slag people off!...you should have told me...i'll NEVER mention Wagner,Garrett,Anthony,Anderson,NORMAN,Cook or Gygax again!...i promise!
Not sure about the slagging thing, I am pretty sure it is ok to say you don't like Randall Garrett at all (the Gandalara books, while fitting in perhaps, are pretty average from memory, at least past the first, anyway). I'd imagine what that means is you can't call other people stupidheads for being big fans of Wagner's Kane, etc.
Given a liking for Moorcock etc., as far as new work goes in a style you might like, have you tried Chris Roberson? Paragaea etc.?
Or S. M. Stirling's In the Courst of the Crimson Kings (and prequel)?
Not sure about the slagging thing, I am pretty sure it is ok to say you don't like Randall Garrett at all (the Gandalara books, while fitting in perhaps, are pretty average from memory, at least past the first, anyway). I'd imagine what that means is you can't call other people stupidheads for being big fans of Wagner's Kane, etc.
Given a liking for Moorcock etc., as far as new work goes in a style you might like, have you tried Chris Roberson? Paragaea etc.?
Or S. M. Stirling's In the Courst of the Crimson Kings (and prequel)?
Round and round the Mulberry bush!...ok then!!!...i'll check him out!!!...i've heard OF him i think...actually i think i said Garrett was crap....uh oh...ok,i take it all back...i love Randall-baby!!!
They were on my early hunt list, but my current understanding is that Night Shade will be reprinting all of these soon. They already have several handsome volumes in the "complete CAS" series, so I'd prefer not to step on their toes. As good as those stories are, there are plenty of authors who do not already have quality publishers releasing their material.
Thanks for the reply. Good to know about NightShade - I'll have to track down what they have put out so far.
Feel free to run down authors you don't like here. The policy is to prevent abuse, not to stifle criticism.
Happy New Year!...no,no,no...i'm hearby announcing my new policy for 2009(a ny's resolution if you like)...'if you can't think of anything nice to say,don't say anything'...now,theres nothing in the rules about shameless promotion of one's band!...i think i got away with that once before...our NEW band is The Willow Landscape...i'm sure some of you will know where we stole that name from!!...we're on myspace...also on a few compilation cd's...our album will be released very soon...if you have a myspace profile, ask us to be friends,i want to see what you people look like...i heard on the news last night that 40% of gamers in Australia are female...i wonder what the percentage of Sci-fi/Fantasy fans is?...i s'pose it's hard to tell by the names on here but there don't SEEM to be a lot of women into this...am i wrong?
Happy New Year!...no,no,no...i'm hearby announcing my new policy for 2009(a ny's resolution if you like)...'if you can't think of anything nice to say,don't say anything'...now,theres nothing in the rules about shameless promotion of one's band!...i think i got away with that once before...our NEW band is The Willow Landscape...i'm sure some of you will know where we stole that name from!!...we're on myspace...also on a few compilation cd's...our album will be released very soon...if you have a myspace profile, ask us to be friends,i want to see what you people look like...i heard on the news last night that 40% of gamers in Australia are female...i wonder what the percentage of Sci-fi/Fantasy fans is?...i s'pose it's hard to tell by the names on here but there don't SEEM to be a lot of women into this...am i wrong?Feel free to run down authors you don't like here. The policy is to prevent abuse, not to stifle criticism.
Hereby!
Is there anything SF about the Mucker stories? I was under the impression that they were two-fisted urban adventure or something.
‘The Mucker’ is in the ‘lost world’ sub-genre of SF.
The first chapter does deal with Billy Byrne’s early life in the city, but by chapter two he gets shanghaied and the adventure begins.
What makes it SF is the mysterious island of Yoka, which is inhabited by degenerate head-hunting descendants of samurais.
It’s a lot like the Tarzan theme, but whereas Tarzan grew up with the wild beasts of the jungle, Billy Byrne grows up with the ‘wild beasts’ of the city; the thieves, the drunks, the muckers. And both Tarzan and Byrne must learn to rise above their upbringing.
It has more character development then most of ERB’s books; some of the villains even repent.
It also features one of ERB’s strongest heroines (she even fights beside the hero, using the sword of a samurai she killed).
And you don’t need to take my word for the quality of this book; this is what Richard A. Lupoff says about it:
“…One of the most remarkable stories ever written by any author, a story which combined so disparate a variety of themes and locales as very nearly to defy belief. It is also one of the finest books of Burroughs’ long and varied career.”
What more need I say?
theres nothing in the rules about shameless promotion of one's band!...i think i got away with that once before...our NEW band is The Willow Landscape..
It's true! Which is why you should totally check out my metal/hardcore band, Shadow at Morning (www.myspace.com/shadowatmorning) - we've got some pretty heavy fantasy and historical elements to our stuff as well. :)
I'm listening to The Willow Landscape right now - nice work! Seems like it'd be good to game to....
Is there anything SF about the Mucker stories? I was under the impression that they were two-fisted urban adventure or something.‘The Mucker’ is in the ‘lost world’ sub-genre of SF.
The first chapter does deal with Billy Byrne’s early life in the city, but by chapter two he gets shanghaied and the adventure begins.
What makes it SF is the mysterious island of Yoka, which is inhabited by degenerate head-hunting descendants of samurais.It’s a lot like the Tarzan theme, but whereas Tarzan grew up with the wild beasts of the jungle, Billy Byrne grows up with the ‘wild beasts’ of the city; the thieves, the drunks, the muckers. And both Tarzan and Byrne must learn to rise above their upbringing.
It has more character development then most of ERB’s books; some of the villains even repent.
It also features one of ERB’s strongest heroines (she even fights beside the hero, using the sword of a samurai she killed).
And you don’t need to take my word for the quality of this book; this is what Richard A. Lupoff says about it:
“…One of the most remarkable stories ever written by any author, a story which combined so disparate a variety of themes and locales as very nearly to defy belief. It is also one of the finest books of Burroughs’ long and varied career.”What more need I say?
As the ERB cheerleader of the PS team here, I concur, The Mucker is a terrific book, and definitely a "lost world" story (at least the first book), a genre of which I am particularly fond. So far we've leaned more in the planetary romance direction, but I'm certainly pulling for PS printing some lost world romance at some point.
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We will definitely get to some Lost World material shortly. Beyond The Ship of Ishtar, nearly all of A. Merritt's books can be characterized as such.
Also, I'm dying to read DIAN OF THE LOST LAND, mostly for the incredible Virgil Finlay opening spread illustration.
theres nothing in the rules about shameless promotion of one's band!...i think i got away with that once before...our NEW band is The Willow Landscape..It's true! Which is why you should totally check out my metal/hardcore band, Shadow at Morning (www.myspace.com/shadowatmorning) - we've got some pretty heavy fantasy and historical elements to our stuff as well. :)
I'm listening to The Willow Landscape right now - nice work! Seems like it'd be good to game to....
Hi there!...thanks man,well i just sent you guys a friend request...you're not kidding when you describe yourselves as 'metal metal and metal'...very fierce indeed...pretty different to us to say the least but i'm sure there are some fantasy elements in there somewhere amid all the screaming and shouting and frenzied adrenaline drumming and stuff!...good luck with it!!
As the ERB cheerleader of the PS team here, I concur, The Mucker is a terrific book, and definitely a "lost world" story (at least the first book), a genre of which I am particularly fond. So far we've leaned more in the planetary romance direction, but I'm certainly pulling for PS printing some lost world romance at some point.Is there anything SF about the Mucker stories? I was under the impression that they were two-fisted urban adventure or something.‘The Mucker’ is in the ‘lost world’ sub-genre of SF.
The first chapter does deal with Billy Byrne’s early life in the city, but by chapter two he gets shanghaied and the adventure begins.
What makes it SF is the mysterious island of Yoka, which is inhabited by degenerate head-hunting descendants of samurais.It’s a lot like the Tarzan theme, but whereas Tarzan grew up with the wild beasts of the jungle, Billy Byrne grows up with the ‘wild beasts’ of the city; the thieves, the drunks, the muckers. And both Tarzan and Byrne must learn to rise above their upbringing.
It has more character development then most of ERB’s books; some of the villains even repent.
It also features one of ERB’s strongest heroines (she even fights beside the hero, using the sword of a samurai she killed).
And you don’t need to take my word for the quality of this book; this is what Richard A. Lupoff says about it:
“…One of the most remarkable stories ever written by any author, a story which combined so disparate a variety of themes and locales as very nearly to defy belief. It is also one of the finest books of Burroughs’ long and varied career.”What more need I say?
'The Mucker' sounds cool...the ERB one i'm desperate for is 'The Moon Men'...also 'Land of Hidden Men'...one of my faves was 'The Cave Girl'...at the moment i'm reading a classic lost world story, 'The Treasure of Atlantis' by J.Allan Dunn from All Around,Dec.1916...really good...a couple of other true classics are 'The Citadel of Fear',Francis Stevens and the 'Kioga' books by William L.Chester...one that i would really love to find is 'The Underground Trail' by George B.Rodney (published in book form as 'Beyond The Range')...also 'The Bowl of Baal' by Robert Ames Bennett
'The Mucker' sounds cool...the ERB one i'm desperate for is 'The Moon Men'...
The University of Nebraska Press has ‘The Moon Men’ in their Bison Frontiers of Imagination series. It’s published along with ‘The Moon Maid’ and ‘The Red Hawk’ under the title of ‘The Moon Maid: Complete and Restored’.
This is probably the best way to get it, since it is “The most complete version of The Moon Maid saga ever made available”.The Bison Frontiers of Imagination series has many other gems too…
---Theris
'The Mucker' sounds cool...the ERB one i'm desperate for is 'The Moon Men'...The University of Nebraska Press has ‘The Moon Men’ in their Bison Frontiers of Imagination series. It’s published along with ‘The Moon Maid’ and ‘The Red Hawk’ under the title of ‘The Moon Maid: Complete and Restored’.
This is probably the best way to get it, since it is “The most complete version of The Moon Maid saga ever made available”.The Bison Frontiers of Imagination series has many other gems too…
---Theris
Thanks!...very interesting indeed...i didn't know the three were even connected,although i suspected 'Men' and 'Maid' probably were...'The Moon Maid' was pretty good from memory
Hi there!...thanks man,well i just sent you guys a friend request...you're not kidding when you describe yourselves as 'metal metal and metal'...very fierce indeed...pretty different to us to say the least but i'm sure there are some fantasy elements in there somewhere amid all the screaming and shouting and frenzied adrenaline drumming and stuff!...good luck with it!!theres nothing in the rules about shameless promotion of one's band!...i think i got away with that once before...our NEW band is The Willow Landscape..It's true! Which is why you should totally check out my metal/hardcore band, Shadow at Morning (www.myspace.com/shadowatmorning) - we've got some pretty heavy fantasy and historical elements to our stuff as well. :)
I'm listening to The Willow Landscape right now - nice work! Seems like it'd be good to game to....
Well,after a second and better listen,you guys are EVEN MORE FULL ON THAN I FIRST THOUGHT!...any of you metal heads who haven't heard them,you should...it's not my thing but it totally rocks
Just finished 'The Swordsman of Mars'...it's as good as I remembered,probably not quite as good as the better ERB but close...I'd forgotten the two novels were linked like that...I look forward to 'The Outlaws' but I might just read my old copy(sorry but I can't afford to buy books that I already have,I only got'Swordsman' because of the significantly different beginning etc. that you mentioned in a blog somewhere,on myspace was it?)...I've got a few of 'em,I'm a bit old-fashioned and like to support my only local sci-fi bookshop...they've been good to me over the years,so I get her to order them for me,they're very reasonably priced too,compared to some similar stuff...I've just started your 'Northwest of Earth'...that was good for me cause it collects all the Northwest Smith...a few of which I didn't have...'Shambleu'-awesome,'Black Thirst'-even better,in fact,brilliant,as good as anything ever!...seriously...I only read some of these a few years ago but it's just as good the 2nd time around...the woman was just a genius with words and a brilliant story-teller
If your old "Outlaw of Mars" is the Ace paperback edition, you're going to be missing about a third of the story.
Our edition reprints Kline's original serialized story from Argosy magazine, which is much longer (and better, in my opinion).
Yeah,I have the little Ace pocketbook editions from the early 60's of both of them...they actually say on the cover,'complete and unabridged' but this seems to mean nothing!...well I s'pose I'll have to order the bloody thing then!...I'll be getting the Elak one next though...looking forward to that cause I only have one Elak story,'Spawn of Dagon'