Hmm, also how about Tully Zetford's "Ryder Hook" series -- Whirlpool of Stars, The Boosted Man, Star City, and the Virility Gene.
Also Mark Ramsay's "Falcon" (Draco de Montfalcon) series -- The Falcon Strikes, The Black Pope, The Bloody Cross, and The King's Treasure.
I've read a couple of those Ryder Hook books. Right sort of crazy stuff, but they don't deserve republishing, ever. :)
I've never come across one of the Falcon books, would like to.
Finally found one of David C. Smith's Sword and Sorcery books a while ago. Anyone else read these?
I have, and they were quite interesting if I recall. Somehow, though, I think I read 2 parts of a 3 part series. Must...jog...memory.
Poul Anderson -- The Broken Sword
Poul Anderson -- Three Hearts and Three Lions
I must confess that I am not a huge fan of Poul Anderson. His work just doesn't sing to me, but then I will admit that I have not read Three Hearts and Three Lions and I've mostly focused on other stuff like Virgin Planet, which I found disappointing.
I am not the biggest fan of Anderson's fantasy, either, does lack that primal something.
What would probably fit best is the adventures of Terran Super Agent Dominic Flandry - but I am pretty sure Baen will be doing those with the rest, too. If you haven't read one, those are worth a go.
Never got into the Flandry stuff and, agreed, Anderson is uneven. But when he's hot he's the hottest. His, The High Crusade, remains an all time favortie of mine. The High Crusade
This seems like as good a place as any for this:
My wife's grandmother (87 years old) was recently put in a home. As they were cleaning out her house (where she has lived since around 1940), they foudna box full of her husband's old sci-fi books. I never met the man (he died when my wife was a kid), but he seems to have been a big genre fan.
Anyway, my wife's family asked me if I wanted the books, and I agreed to take them all. The only thing I know about the books so far is that they were likely printed during the 60's and 70's (maybe a few from the 50's). We are driving down to New Orleans for Christmas this year, and I'll be picking up the books and bringing them back to Philly with me.
After I go through the books, I plan to post a list of them here.
Neat. I look forward to the list. Sorry about your wife's grandmother. Taking care of our elder familiy members can be so tough on everyone.
Lovecraft is odd. I think of him as a brilliant sylist capable of shaping mood despite a propensity for literary curlicues, but utter poop at characterization and plot. But for ambience and evoking the style of an earlier time? Marvelous. Clearly, his world building makes him a seminal figure for its impact on future authors. Still, I'd rather read Derleth. For me, who reads for character and plot, Lovecraft is a slog.
Despite the power of Tower of the Elephant, I had to put Howard down. I couldn't take, what I percieve to be, the racism. Every model woman is "ivory" or "alabaster" skinned. Every villain is dark skinned. The more evil, the darker the skin. For real. Every sexually promsicuous evil woman is "dusky". If anyone ever did a count I guarantee on a per page basis, Howard has used the word "dusky" more frequently than any author in history.
Gor - poop. Fun for some, I'm sure, and not to knock anyone's fun. As William James said, we're all entitled to moral and mental vacations. Still, for me, it's poop.
Merrit and Moore are marvelous.
Love me some Poul Anderson.
For some reason I've just never gotten into Moorcock. Never worked for me. Not Elric. Not any of it. Too fever-dreamy for me at times, and there's a sparseness to his prose that prevents me from immersing myself into the book. Don't know why, but he just leaves me flat. Loved his critical book, Wizadry and Wild Romance, though.
I think I suggested this one once before: H. Beam Piper's The Cosmic Computer. Goofy title, rocking tale!
What about the, arguably, first western fantasy novel, Eddings' The Worm Orobus? We're talking late 19th century, IIRC. That's a cool one. Saw it in print not long ago, so I don't know what the deal is.
Here's a little fantasy gem that I bet no one has heard of: Darkworld Detective. My brother and I read this to each other on a trip cross country almost 25 years ago. Then I found a copy in that giant used book complex in Portland OR (name escapes me), and re-read it with trepidation. Many things of towering childhood memory are not as good the second time 'round.It was better! No dissapointment.
John Shirley's Kamus stories, you mean?
Then I found a copy in that giant used book complex in Portland OR (name escapes me)...
That would be that shrine of the written word, Powell's. Truly a destination for anybody that loves books, and a not-insignificant rack of gaming materials for perusal.
John Shirley's Kamus stories, you mean?
Here's a little fantasy gem that I bet no one has heard of: Darkworld Detective. My brother and I read this to each other on a trip cross country almost 25 years ago. Then I found a copy in that giant used book complex in Portland OR (name escapes me), and re-read it with trepidation. Many things of towering childhood memory are not as good the second time 'round.It was better! No dissapointment.
J. Michael Reaves, Kamus of Kadizar.
Did John Shirley do something with this character? Or is Reaves a pseudonym? Or did Reaves pick it up from Shirley? Because if there are more Kamus of Kadizar books, I'd devour 'em.
Then I found a copy in that giant used book complex in Portland OR (name escapes me)...That would be that shrine of the written word, Powell's. Truly a destination for anybody that loves books, and a not-insignificant rack of gaming materials for perusal.
Yes, thank you!
Anything from Whitley Streiber or Tim Powers ?
Did John Shirley do something with this character? Or is Reaves a pseudonym? Or did Reaves pick it up from Shirley? Because if there are more Kamus of Kadizar books, I'd devour 'em.
Yeah. I just didn't realise someone else wrote the first book.
not really a suggestion for you to publish but i've just re-read a stack of john beynon harris/wyndham stories...this was ahead of it's time!...great interplanetary romance!...he doesn't seem to be mentioned a lot in these sorts of discussions but totally deserves to be...'day of the triffids' was the book that turned me on to sci-fi(we actually studied the bloody thing in english class when i was about 13)...a guy who's been mentioned a bit,weinbaum...i love 'the red peri' but nothing else has done much for me...i second frank b long...some of neil r jones was cool especially 'twin worlds',what a classic!...russ winterbotham(especially 'the red planet')...i'm going to harp on again about ray cummings...get some ray!!...he was the KING!!!...'the girl in the golden atom'...how could anyone not LOVE that?!...has anyone here read it?...or any of his stuff?...'brigands of the moon','wandl the invader' etc...and it's really hard to find now(someone please correct me)...did i mention wallace west's 'lords of atlantis' before?...everyone should read that!
Lovecraft is odd. I think of him as a brilliant sylist capable of shaping mood despite a propensity for literary curlicues, but utter poop at characterization and plot. But for ambience and evoking the style of an earlier time? Marvelous. Clearly, his world building makes him a seminal figure for its impact on future authors. Still, I'd rather read Derleth. For me, who reads for character and plot, Lovecraft is a slog.
Despite the power of Tower of the Elephant, I had to put Howard down. I couldn't take, what I percieve to be, the racism. Every model woman is "ivory" or "alabaster" skinned. Every villain is dark skinned. The more evil, the darker the skin. For real. Every sexually promsicuous evil woman is "dusky". If anyone ever did a count I guarantee on a per page basis, Howard has used the word "dusky" more frequently than any author in history.
Gor - poop. Fun for some, I'm sure, and not to knock anyone's fun. As William James said, we're all entitled to moral and mental vacations. Still, for me, it's poop.
Merrit and Moore are marvelous.
Love me some Poul Anderson.
For some reason I've just never gotten into Moorcock. Never worked for me. Not Elric. Not any of it. Too fever-dreamy for me at times, and there's a sparseness to his prose that prevents me from immersing myself into the book. Don't know why, but he just leaves me flat. Loved his critical book, Wizadry and Wild Romance, though.
I think I suggested this one once before: H. Beam Piper's The Cosmic Computer. Goofy title, rocking tale!
What about the, arguably, first western fantasy novel, Eddings' The Worm Orobus? We're talking late 19th century, IIRC. That's a cool one. Saw it in print not long ago, so I don't know what the deal is.
'gor' is poop for everybody man...my final word on john norman - i am so glad my daughters have found boyfriends who are not like john norman...a tragic pathetic loser...point taken about howard's use of stereotypes but you just have to get past it or you miss out on 98% of the cool old stuff(however i agree with moorcock in 'wizardry' and don't perceive this to be racist at all in howard's case,check out capt. s p meek or coblenz etc.,that's racist!...of course,it was a different world then...also totally agree with moorcock on norman -'at worst dangerous' and lovecraft - 'unreadable')...i loved 'the worm ourobouros'...sorry to disagree again but only got about 30-40 pages into 'the cosmic computer' before it went to st.vincent de paul(it has a cool cover)...i'm feeling increasingly isolated as the defender of mike moorcock...old hippies,punks and rockers unite!...rally to the call!...where are all the hawkwind freaks when you need them???...fever dreamy you say?...HELL YEAH!!!
You just listed a bunch of titles I've never heard of before -- that's awesome. I loves me some planetary romance, and I will definitely check it out.
As for Moorcock, I can recognize his work as quality and influential, just not my kind of quality.
No sweat on a disagree, all a matter of taste after all, but Piper's Cosmic Computer is on my perennial re-read shelf. I adore that book and would LOVE to see it in Planet Stories.
And I hear you on Howard. I tried. I really tried. Elephant was one of the best S&S short stories I've ever read, but I just couldn't do it. I had to put the anthology down. I'm going to disagree and argue that Howard was racist and, further, that his work is racist. Not a popular stance, I get that, because the stories are so darn good. Sodarngood. Nonetheless, that's what I think.
Let's hear it for the Worm! What about it, Erik, Eddings The Worm Orobus in Planet Stories?
You just listed a bunch of titles I've never heard of before -- that's awesome. I loves me some planetary romance, and I will definitely check it out.
As for Moorcock, I can recognize his work as quality and influential, just not my kind of quality.
No sweat on a disagree, all a matter of taste after all, but Piper's Cosmic Computer is on my perennial re-read shelf. I adore that book and would LOVE to see it in Planet Stories.
And I hear you on Howard. I tried. I really tried. Elephant was one of the best S&S short stories I've ever read, but I just couldn't do it. I had to put the anthology down. I'm going to disagree and argue that Howard was racist and, further, that his work is racist. Not a popular stance, I get that, because the stories are so darn good. Sodarngood. Nonetheless, that's what I think.
Let's hear it for the Worm! What about it, Erik, Eddings The Worm Orobus in Planet Stories?
you should be able to find the harris/wyndham stuff fairly easily...i've been looking for ray cummings books for years,you used to see 'em everywhere...i applaud your effort to try to read howard...lol...and yep who knows,maybe he was rascist,a lot of people have thought the same...remember though this whole 'science' of eugenics was like very prevalent at the time...and not just with the nazis etc...it goes a long way to explaining this whole issue...they also had cool 'science' like the hollow earth theory and all that other ridiculous stuff that hitler and his nasty little crew got onto(see 'the morning of the magicians'- by pauwels and bergier,if you can find it...that's a good read!)...i know you weren't denigrating moorcock...as you say,taste and all that...if it wasn't for that,we'd all be robots!
I read The Worm of Ouroboros, mainly because of C. S. Lewis' recommendation. I was a little under-whelmed, and found it rather slow-going. I'm sure I would have been more excited if I was reading in 1922 and had a lot less to choose from, but from where I'm reading, it just got an OK.
I think I've been talked into the High Crusade.
I read The Worm of Ouroboros, mainly because of C. S. Lewis' recommendation. I was a little under-whelmed, and found it rather slow-going. I'm sure I would have been more excited if I was reading in 1922 and had a lot less to choose from, but from where I'm reading, it just got an OK.
I think I've been talked into the High Crusade.
Yes, very High Fantasy, not a Planet Stories sort of book at all.
You just listed a bunch of titles I've never heard of before -- that's awesome. I loves me some planetary romance, and I will definitely check it out.
As for Moorcock, I can recognize his work as quality and influential, just not my kind of quality.
No sweat on a disagree, all a matter of taste after all, but Piper's Cosmic Computer is on my perennial re-read shelf. I adore that book and would LOVE to see it in Planet Stories.
And I hear you on Howard. I tried. I really tried. Elephant was one of the best S&S short stories I've ever read, but I just couldn't do it. I had to put the anthology down. I'm going to disagree and argue that Howard was racist and, further, that his work is racist. Not a popular stance, I get that, because the stories are so darn good. Sodarngood. Nonetheless, that's what I think.
Let's hear it for the Worm! What about it, Erik, Eddings The Worm Orobus in Planet Stories?
I will disagree, too. Howard is of his time. As are Mark Twain, Arthur Conan Doyle, and many others going forward. All have some racism from our point of view, if you want to look at it like that.
However, in 50/70/100 years, we'll be seen as horrendously racist, too, look what is going on right now.
As for Piper - extolling the virtues of Space Vikings - Vikings who are of course a bunch of racist murderers and rapists - and he is writing several decades later than the other gentlemen.
You just listed a bunch of titles I've never heard of before -- that's awesome. I loves me some planetary romance, and I will definitely check it out.
As for Moorcock, I can recognize his work as quality and influential, just not my kind of quality.
No sweat on a disagree, all a matter of taste after all, but Piper's Cosmic Computer is on my perennial re-read shelf. I adore that book and would LOVE to see it in Planet Stories.
And I hear you on Howard. I tried. I really tried. Elephant was one of the best S&S short stories I've ever read, but I just couldn't do it. I had to put the anthology down. I'm going to disagree and argue that Howard was racist and, further, that his work is racist. Not a popular stance, I get that, because the stories are so darn good. Sodarngood. Nonetheless, that's what I think.
Let's hear it for the Worm! What about it, Erik, Eddings The Worm Orobus in Planet Stories?
I will disagree, too. Howard is of his time. As are Mark Twain, Arthur Conan Doyle, and many others going forward. All have some racism from our point of view, if you want to look at it like that.
However, in 50/70/100 years, we'll be seen as horrendously racist, too, look what is going on right now.
As for Piper - extolling the virtues of Space Vikings - Vikings who are of course a bunch of racist murderers and rapists - and he is writing several decades later than the other gentlemen.
yeah good points...it's what i was getting at re the eugenics issue etc...like LEARNED people actually believed and taught stuff like this in schools and at uni etc...the thing to keep in mind too is that notion of 'the noble savage'...THIS is what howard and brackett even in the 50's was about,see nowadays that just seems racist and patronising to us, but it didn't to them!)and you're so right about what's going on at the moment and the way we'll be viewed by future gen.s(if there are any)...the race thing hasn't gone away by ANY means,it's just more people have woken up to the fact that it's actually just one race!(than in howard's day i mean)...the people in the US who are too scared to vote for obama because of his colour and name and stuff is indicative of the lack of progress though eh?...oh well enough of that...we're all here for escapism aren't we??
I'm sure that he's been mentioned be for. I might have been the one who brought up his name, but is there still any consideration for Lin Carter?
I'd love to see his "Thongor" stories back in print and he also did a couple of sword and planet series.
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The Thongor rights are tied up. Also, I just re-read "Thongor and the Wizard of Lemuria," and suffice it to say I think we're safe giving that one a pass. It just isn't very good.
I do have some Lin Carter projects in mind, but they are all off in the not-too-immediate future.
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I read The Worm of Ouroboros, mainly because of C. S. Lewis' recommendation. I was a little under-whelmed, and found it rather slow-going. I'm sure I would have been more excited if I was reading in 1922 and had a lot less to choose from, but from where I'm reading, it just got an OK.
I think I've been talked into the High Crusade.
Let me know how you like it!
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You just listed a bunch of titles I've never heard of before -- that's awesome. I loves me some planetary romance, and I will definitely check it out.
As for Moorcock, I can recognize his work as quality and influential, just not my kind of quality.
No sweat on a disagree, all a matter of taste after all, but Piper's Cosmic Computer is on my perennial re-read shelf. I adore that book and would LOVE to see it in Planet Stories.
And I hear you on Howard. I tried. I really tried. Elephant was one of the best S&S short stories I've ever read, but I just couldn't do it. I had to put the anthology down. I'm going to disagree and argue that Howard was racist and, further, that his work is racist. Not a popular stance, I get that, because the stories are so darn good. Sodarngood. Nonetheless, that's what I think.
Let's hear it for the Worm! What about it, Erik, Eddings The Worm Orobus in Planet Stories?
I will disagree, too. Howard is of his time. As are Mark Twain, Arthur Conan Doyle, and many others going forward. All have some racism from our point of view, if you want to look at it like that.
However, in 50/70/100 years, we'll be seen as horrendously racist, too, look what is going on right now.
As for Piper - extolling the virtues of Space Vikings - Vikings who are of course a bunch of racist murderers and rapists - and he is writing several decades later than the other gentlemen.
Let me be clear: I'm not making an argument of any kind for what anyone should read or not read. All I'm saying is that, while I can understand people writing from their time and being influenced by it and while I can overlook the intermittent concept still mired in the misconceptions of its time, I personally find the racism so constantly imbedded in Howard's language, so entrenched in his every characterization, that the reptition of it I, personally, just can't stomache. Color me as having a weak stomache, but Howard's style makes it un-doable for me. Pity me, for I am bereft of Howard's brilliance, doomed to toss the baby out with the bathwater because I find his prose style melted the baby and made it indistinguishable from the water. And me with no cyclotron. :^)
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Lou,
What of Robert E. Howard's stuff have you read?
There is undeniable racism aplenty (see "Skull-Face"), but I don't think its apparent in the preponderance of his work.
The book we published, "Almuric," is not exactly loaded with racism, for example.
I've read Almuric (first as a kid, later as an adult), and completely agree. I'm speaking soley from my experience reading a recent anthology of Conan short stories (IIRC it's this one).
You've a good point, Eric. I certainly can't claim to have read Howard exhaustively and may simply be speaking from too small a sample.
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Not sure if these were suggested before, but Andy Offutt and Richard K Lyon's War of the Wizards trilogy--Demon in the Mirror, The Eyes of Sarsis, and Web of the Spider. They've been out of print since the early '80s.
I was also going to suggest PC Hodgell's books, but it looks like Baen is putting them back in print.
Not a suggestion per se, but more of a question. Is Jack Chalker good, bad, or somewhere inbetween? For decades, I've seen his books in libraries, bookstores (used ones lately), etc. and never gotten around to giving him a try.
Chalker is decent. The best of his I have read at the Well World books - Midnight at the Well of Souls, etc.
Baen Webscriptions have some, so there will be several chapter excerpts you can check out :-
http://www.webscription.net/chapters/0743435222/0743435222.htm?blurb
Lou,
What of Robert E. Howard's stuff have you read?
There is undeniable racism aplenty (see "Skull-Face"), but I don't think its apparent in the preponderance of his work.
The book we published, "Almuric," is not exactly loaded with racism, for example.
I've read Almuric (first as a kid, later as an adult), and completely agree. I'm speaking soley from my experience reading a recent anthology of Conan short stories (IIRC it's this one).
You've a good point, Eric. I certainly can't claim to have read Howard exhaustively and may simply be speaking from too small a sample.
Well, for me, I'm speaking as someone whose sample is around the 300 mark. :)
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....a recent anthology of Conan short stories (IIRC it's this one).
I've collected that entire series of REH short stories (including the recently released "Horror Stories of...". It was a really good collection overall, even though there were some repeats from book to book. I think "Worms of the Earth" was repeated 3 times in the series, but since that's one of my favorite stories, I didn't really mind.
Well, for me, I'm speaking as someone whose sample is around the 300 mark. :)Lou,
What of Robert E. Howard's stuff have you read?
There is undeniable racism aplenty (see "Skull-Face"), but I don't think its apparent in the preponderance of his work.
The book we published, "Almuric," is not exactly loaded with racism, for example.
I've read Almuric (first as a kid, later as an adult), and completely agree. I'm speaking soley from my experience reading a recent anthology of Conan short stories (IIRC it's this one).
You've a good point, Eric. I certainly can't claim to have read Howard exhaustively and may simply be speaking from too small a sample.
and i thought I'D read a few...wouldn't have a clue how many but i don't think i could claim 300
Not a suggestion per se, but more of a question. Is Jack Chalker good, bad, or somewhere inbetween? For decades, I've seen his books in libraries, bookstores (used ones lately), etc. and never gotten around to giving him a try.
for me one of the best from the 80's...the well world series was his best i think
'the dark world'...cool...i'll order it...sorry to bang on about him but here's a request...'the onslaught of the druid girls' by my man,ray cummings...how can that not be cool?...or what about 'beyond the stars' or 'explorers into infinity' or even better 'the snow girl'
Lou,
What of Robert E. Howard's stuff have you read?
There is undeniable racism aplenty (see "Skull-Face"), but I don't think its apparent in the preponderance of his work.
The book we published, "Almuric," is not exactly loaded with racism, for example.
I've read Almuric (first as a kid, later as an adult), and completely agree. I'm speaking soley from my experience reading a recent anthology of Conan short stories (IIRC it's this one).
You've a good point, Eric. I certainly can't claim to have read Howard exhaustively and may simply be speaking from too small a sample.
yes a lot of it is undeniably racist but there IS a difference between racial hatred/intolerance like the skinheads/nazis/kkk etc and the old thing of 'the noble savage' etc...in all the howard i've read (a lot,but not as many as mr tyson!),i've never had the impression that he didn't like black people or any other race...on the contrary in fact i would've said...many of his best characters are described as 'dusky' etc and treated sympathetically(belit,n'longa,bran mac morn etc)...i think he just subscribed to the view that the older more 'primitive' races were supplanted by 'superior' ones(like just about everybody else back then and even now,don't they still teach that?...i've got an open mind about it!)...from howard's own intro to 'worms of the earth',speaking of the commonly held academic view of the Picts - 'Picts were made to be sly,furtive,unwarlike and altogether inferior to the races that followed - which was doubtless true.And yet i felt a strong sympathy for this people,and then and there adopted them as a medium of connection with ancient times'...he was definitely sort of obsessed with this stuff (see 'the hyborian age')but again,i don't think there's any racial hatred anywhere in it
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'the dark world'...cool...i'll order it...sorry to bang on about him but here's a request...'the onslaught of the druid girls' by my man,ray cummings...how can that not be cool?...or what about 'beyond the stars' or 'explorers into infinity' or even better 'the snow girl'
By sheer coincidence, "Onslaught of the Druid Girls" is the fifth book on my "to read" pile at the moment!
I have been accumulating Ray Cummings science-fantasy for a while, now, but so far all I've managed to read are Tama of the Light Country, Tama: Princess of Mercury, and Aerita of the Light Country (quite a find!).
Rummaging around, I also have "A Brand New World," "Brigands on the Moon" and "Wandl the Invader" in paperback. Without digging too deep into my pulps I also have "The Man on the Meteor," and the aforementioned "Onslaught of the Druid Girls." I know I have perhaps three or four more novel-sized stories in pulps I originally collected for other authors, but that is a spelunking expedition for another day.
'the dark world'...cool...i'll order it...sorry to bang on about him but here's a request...'the onslaught of the druid girls' by my man,ray cummings...how can that not be cool?...or what about 'beyond the stars' or 'explorers into infinity' or even better 'the snow girl'By sheer coincidence, "Onslaught of the Druid Girls" is the fifth book on my "to read" pile at the moment!
I have been accumulating Ray Cummings science-fantasy for a while, now, but so far all I've managed to read are Tama of the Light Country, Tama: Princess of Mercury, and Aerita of the Light Country (quite a find!).
Rummaging around, I also have "A Brand New World," "Brigands on the Moon" and "Wandl the Invader" in paperback. Without digging too deep into my pulps I also have "The Man on the Meteor," and the aforementioned "Onslaught of the Druid Girls." I know I have perhaps three or four more novel-sized stories in pulps I originally collected for other authors, but that is a spelunking expedition for another day.
cool...is 'onslaught' a full-length novel?...all i know is it's one of the coolest titles i've heard!(saw it on a fantastic adventures cover)...the tama series would be a good one to publish(especially for me as i don't have the first one!)there were several sequels to 'the girl in the golden atom' apparently,'the princess of' etc,which i'm desperate to find...the guy was very prolific...you must be very organised to have such a together 'to read' pile...i agonise over which story to read each time
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Well, it's an inexact science. Last week "A Martian Odyssey" jumped up about ten places because I really wanted to read it, and I'm currently reading Otis Adelbert Kline's "Tam, Son of the Tiger" at the request of the Kline Yahoo group. That one was barely even on my radar.
Well, it's an inexact science. Last week "A Martian Odyssey" jumped up about ten places because I really wanted to read it, and I'm currently reading Otis Adelbert Kline's "Tam, Son of the Tiger" at the request of the Kline Yahoo group. That one was barely even on my radar.
Have you read Jan of the Jungle?
Well, it's an inexact science. Last week "A Martian Odyssey" jumped up about ten places because I really wanted to read it, and I'm currently reading Otis Adelbert Kline's "Tam, Son of the Tiger" at the request of the Kline Yahoo group. That one was barely even on my radar.
i was disappointed with 'odyssey' after all the hype it got/gets...'the red peri' is my fave weinbaum...i'm currently reading clark ashton smith's 'malygris' stories in 'lost worlds vol 2'(there are 3)...as good as anything ever!...haven't got/read any kline jungle stuff...any good?
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I started, but didn't finish, Kline's original Tarzan "homage," Jan of the Jungle (originally called "Call of the Savage" in hardcover and in a movie serial based off of it). If you can get past Kline's obligatory black servant speaking in shuck-and-jive ebonics opening, I thought it was pretty brutal, but not all that interesting otherwise. I need to get back to it some time soon.
Tam is MUCH more fantastic, and involves a trip to a subterranean realm of the living Hindu gods complete with enormous four-armed giants, monkey men, dinosaurs, and other assorted craziness.
The Jan of the Jungle sequel is called "Jan Goes to India," so I wonder if there are any easter-egg style crossovers between the two jungle lords in that one.
I started, but didn't finish, Kline's original Tarzan "homage," Jan of the Jungle (originally called "Call of the Savage" in hardcover and in a movie serial based off of it). If you can get past Kline's obligatory black servant speaking in shuck-and-jive ebonics opening, I thought it was pretty brutal, but not all that interesting otherwise. I need to get back to it some time soon.
Tam is MUCH more fantastic, and involves a trip to a subterranean realm of the living Hindu gods complete with enormous four-armed giants, monkey men, dinosaurs, and other assorted craziness.
The Jan of the Jungle sequel is called "Jan Goes to India," so I wonder if there are any easter-egg style crossovers between the two jungle lords in that one.
tam sounds really cool!!!...how many tam stories were there?...from your desciption i could live without jan,i normally sort of skip over the brutal/violent bits so if that's all it's got going for it,it won't be my thing...i've only read the mars ones,they're really cool...i've got a couple of the venus ones but waiting to get the first one...i'm reading another john beynon harris classic 'the sleepers of mars',sequel to 'stowaway to mars'...apart from the usual stuff like planting a flag on arrival and claiming the whole place for england without even checking to see if there are any inhabitants etc it's another classic
I’ve got a few book ideas for you:
“Space Hawk” by Anthony Gilmore
I’ve recently read “Space Vulture” (a modern tribute to pulp sci-fi) by Gary K. Wolf (creator of Roger Rabbit) and Archbishop John J. Myers. In the introduction to it they speak fondly of “Space Hawk”, it was “Space Hawk” that started them on sci-fi and inspired them to write.
I haven’t read “Space Hawk”, so I can’t recommend it personally, but I think it’s worth looking into. I’ve searched for it on Amazon but the only copies available are old, used, and expensive. As far as I can tell, it hasn’t been in print for at least fifty years.
If you were to publish it, I’m sure you could easily get Gary K. Wolf or John J. Myers (or both) to write an introduction.
“The Goddess of Atvatabar” by William R. Bradshaw
“Goddess of Atvatabar” is an early hollow-earth adventure, preceding ERB’s Pellucidar series by several years at least.
Sadly, another book I haven’t read. But I’ve heard it’s good and I’d like to read it (though I’d rather read it in a new Planet Stories edition than in an old falling-apart antique). I believe it’s also out of print.
“The Wizard of Venus” by Edgar Rice Burroughs
It’s a novelette, so you’d have to include other material---how about “Elmer”, the ERB story that was edited into being “The Resurrection of Jimber-Jaw”. (“Elmer” has not seen print since 2001, in a limited edition anthology)---to fill out the book. You could almost recreate the old “Tales of Three Planets” collection.
“Wizard of Venus” is the only story from any of ERB’s more famous series’ that is not being published by Leonaur.
I’d love it if you published any of the above, particularly “Space Hawk”.
Hope to hear from you soon,
---Theris
Howard was undeniably racist. Just read through some of his letters. While i personally despise racism i have no trouble seperating the art from the artist. I love Howards work. Same with Lovecraft for that matter. Same for ERB. Was there any pulp writers who werent racist?
I also love Wagner.
Ofcourse everyone is entitled to read or not read what they wish.
That is Wilhelm Richard Wagner by the way. Just incase it was cause for any confusion.
People have been talking about H. Beam Piper here, but as far as I can spot, only bits and pieces from his Terrohuman Future History stories. How about some love for the Paratime Police and Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen? And the Kalvan sequel written by Green and Carr, Great Kings' War? And I think Green has written yet another...
Seconding (or thirding?) Perry Rhodan. And Kregen.
It's been a long time since I allowed myself to touch a Gor novel without thorough ritual purification afterward, but I seem to recall that the first three weren't half bad. It went swiftly downhill thereafter, and I think I could point out the exact paragraph in book 6 or 7 where John Norman went insane. Or possibly was dumped by his girlfriend (and then went insane). ...Either way, I suppose the first three are tainted by association with their successors.
I think Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart is still in print, but not its sequels The Story of the Stone and Eight Skilled Gentlemen. Double awesome with extra sprinkles.
The works of Thomas Burnett Swann.
The Cthulhiana of Brian Lumley -- Titus Crow, and the Dreamlands series starring David Hero and Eldin the Wanderer. Both would, incidentally, work terrifically well in a Golarion framework, especially if it's true that Golarion shares Earth's Dreamlands.
People have been talking about H. Beam Piper here, but as far as I can spot, only bits and pieces from his Terrohuman Future History stories. How about some love for the Paratime Police and Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen? And the Kalvan sequel written by Green and Carr, Great Kings' War? And I think Green has written yet another...
Seconding (or thirding?) Perry Rhodan. And Kregen.
It's been a long time since I allowed myself to touch a Gor novel without thorough ritual purification afterward, but I seem to recall that the first three weren't half bad. It went swiftly downhill thereafter, and I think I could point out the exact paragraph in book 6 or 7 where John Norman went insane. Or possibly was dumped by his girlfriend (and then went insane). ...Either way, I suppose the first three are tainted by association with their successors.
I think Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart is still in print, but not its sequels The Story of the Stone and Eight Skilled Gentlemen. Double awesome with extra sprinkles.
The works of Thomas Burnett Swann.
The Cthulhiana of Brian Lumley -- Titus Crow, and the Dreamlands series starring David Hero and Eldin the Wanderer. Both would, incidentally, work terrifically well in a Golarion framework, especially if it's true that Golarion shares Earth's Dreamlands.
well i promised not to mention norman again but yes that's what i've heard,the first couple are ok...after that,well SOMETHING definitely happened to the poor bastard...anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of reading thomas burnett swann,should do so!!!...there's nothing to dislike about that stuff!...'bridge of birds' was ok...i'm halfway through 'kyrik and the lost queen',gardiner f fox,it's good but the lame teenage sexual type stuff is a bit wearing!...a lot of ripped clothing and breasts and hips and stuff...which is all good but you know,not all the time...one suggestion,from 1975 'from the legend of biel' by mary staton...one that i will re-read soon to see if it stands up after 30 years...as a teenager i loved it!
Has anyone inquired about John W. Campbell's Unknown (Worlds)? I guess the ownership status of the stories and novels published therein differ from author to author?