Half-Dwarves?


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Where are the half-dwarves? We have half everything else half-orcs, half-elves, half-ogres, half-demons, half-celestials, half-dragons, etc. I even have the book Bastards and Bloodlines and it has half-eagels half-elves, half-halflings half-blinkdogs, half-humans half-trolls, half-dwarves half-gargolyes. So where are all the half-dwarves? I made a write up based around the half-orc and half-elf races that a player in my group uses. It nothing fancy just human plus dwarf divided by two. What are the opinions about half-dwarves? Does anyone have a write up for a dwarfling? Has anyone tried this?

Fizz


In my homebrew I allow all playable races to interbreed with humans but not with each other. The result looks human but has roughly half the stat modifications of a demihuman. In the case of a half-dwarf, that would be +1 to Con and -1 to Cha. (Though, in my homebrew, dwarves take a hit to Dexterity rather than Charisma, since I've always figured them as forceful personalities but not particularly nimble.) The point is to add a little "realism" to the world while giving players the option of slightly tweaking their stats at creation if they so choose.

Liberty's Edge

In Dark Sun, they're called "muls;" they're brawny and bald, and they are sterile like mules.


Heathansson wrote:
In Dark Sun, they're called "muls;" they're brawny and bald, and they are sterile like mules.

For some reason Sebastian's avatar has always reminded me of a mul.

Liberty's Edge

Check out Dragon 319. It has the 3.5 Dark Sun "Player's Handbook", including races (and including Muls).


You don't find any half-dwarves because no self respecting Dwarven male would ever mate with anything other than a Dwarf. And if you believe the rumors do you really want to breed with the "bearded woman"?

In all reasonable seriousness though. I've often wondered why there weren't half-dwarves. Some halflings (not to be confused with those otherwise known as hobbits) obiviosly would work socially speaking, better than others. Like an orc and dwarf wouldn't really get along.


Kuthax wrote:
You don't find any half-dwarves because no self respecting Dwarven male would ever mate with anything other than a Dwarf. And if you believe the rumors do you really want to breed with the "bearded woman"?

The dwarf in the first D&D movie said it all.

Sovereign Court

Deep halflings (monster manual 3.5) are dwarflings. All the evidence is there, but I still doubt they'd admit it.


I motion that the half-halfling be renamed to Quarterling.


Well what if a female dwarf and human got drunk and did the deed, or the human got her bearded freak butt drunk and took advantage of her. lol Its a long shot but some horny guy would do it, I bet. Maybe she was a dwarf gone wild hehehhe


If a female dwarf went human would she go back to the small male dwarves or no


Okay, thats enough of that, sorry about that.


Any ways I never even thought of that, Dwarves breading with other races, if a halfling and a dwarf mated some how, jess ah what the ???


I dont think elves would mate with dwarves at all though, for somereason. Got a question for yea, in a adventure say, you came home and found a dwarf mateing with you wife, would you be entertained and curious or would you fly off the handle, and kick his butt.

Grand Lodge

I have never been very fond of "Half" Races.

For humans, and orcs and elves to mate that means they are the same species. Dogs and cats don't mate to give you a half-dog. Yeah it's fantasy, but it has to be rooted in some sembelance of real life to hold any meaning.

So you could say that all Humanoids are human species just different races of the species. Then they loose a lot of that special feel to them. Dwarves are just short stocky humans, elves are just hippie humans, halflings are short humans, etc. Yawn, let's just play a human then.

In my games there are no half races at all, unless magic was used or one of the parents was a special critter like an outsider.


Ever heard of the Liger?

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Saern wrote:
Ever heard of the Liger?

It's pretty much my favorite animal. Bred for it's magical powers.


The point being that two different species can, in fact, be interbred. Thus, half-whatevers are viable without breaking the rules of biology or anything. A fun thing to do is make them sterile, however. See how many players choose to run one then! >:)

Still doesn't account for the missing half-dwarves, however.


Half blink-dog?! I don't think that sort of thing is even legal in most states!!

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Not that the gaming industry is a democracy or anything, but I think, and vote for, the idea of limiting halves to the level where they are is not a bad thing. Half-dwarves, Quarterlings (great name, btw), Mid-gnomes and half-treants are pushing the line. I know this is fantasy, but biological diversification doesn't just *poof* happen.

I personally think there are too many sub-races, not to mention inter-breeding. If you want to play with adaptable biologies, just think human, as they, after all, have the stats to back it up.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Derro are half dwarf, half human critters. It's too bad they didn't get an illustration in the Monster Manual, because it's easy to forget about them as a result.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Aren't Derro created beings from Suel magics? (Along with Skulks and Jermalaine)

Not really an example of natural cross-breeding.


There's some successful campaign world published for 3.0 (Arcanis maybe?) that claims its world's gnomes are actually half-dwarves. They've mutated the rules a bit (like gnomes aren't small), but it's an interesting concept.

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