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Erik Mona wrote:

We are certainly looking at some kind of a subscription service. We'll keep you posted.

--Erik

Short adventures are the bread and butter of D&D - err, I mean, fully compliant OGL games.

Please make these available as a subscription service, just as with Pathfinder, under a similar pricing scheme. I need my twice-a-month Paizo fix, and I'd hate to have to manually order (and pay shipping on) each of these.

Contributor

We are definitely looking into the possibility. Stay tuned!


Please sort out a subscription service for the GameMastery Modules as I just tried to preorder them and it works out with $40 worth of stuff and $33 in postage to the UK.

I buy lots of my OGL stuff from the US and $33 is just plain wrong for postage and packing. I buy cases of D&D Minis and don't pay $33 postage and packing, you can't honestly tell me that the GameMastery modules are heavier/larger than say two cases of Dragon Queen Minis for which I recently paid $27 postage & packing...

Please sort out the subscription process soon, and a reasonable rate of P&P for all your UK wanna be subscribers.

I'm just going to sign up for Pathfinder, $5 p&p seems reasonable/issue especially with the 30% cover price discount.

While I never subscribed to Dungeon I did receive it from issue 1- I've got all of them, it's a terrible shame, the best OGL (D&D) resource ever... sadly missed.

Thanks Paul


Is it possible that a subscription to these modules will become an option for those of us with remaining issues? If so I will wait to decide.

Pathfinder looks cool but doesn't fit my needs, so I was about to take the store credit. But if you could put together a similar value deal on a subscription to these modules I would go for that in a heartbeat.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
Riley wrote:
I need my twice-a-month Paizo fix, and I'd hate to have to manually order (and pay shipping on) each of these.

As I posted on another message board, thread or blog somewhere yesterday (don't remember where now), there is no download that will replace that giddy feeling I get when I open the mailbox and see that issue of Dungeon or Dragon. Two times a month, no matter how crappy my day has been, that mailbox comes open, the clouds part, sun shines down, birds sing, flowers blossom, and I have Dungeons & Dragons goodness waiting for me. Before I learned more about Pathfinder, the loss of that feeling twice a month truly made me want to cry.

All that being said, yeah, a subscription to this would be great. It would be awesome to get both hard copy and PDF like Pathfinder.

I don't want to have to order each month and remember to do it. I'm American, and as such, somewhat lazy. Make it easy for me to give you my money, and I probably will.

Taldor

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Cards, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Offer a subscription and I'll subscribe


I would also be interested in subscribing to a Gamemastery Modules monthly service. I would be especially interested if Pathfinder and a Gamemastery Module could be packed to ship together each month to save on shipping cost!

Looking forward to it all! Thank you all again.

Shadow Lodge

Tars Tarkas wrote:

I would also be interested in subscribing to a Gamemastery Modules monthly service. I would be especially interested if Pathfinder and a Gamemastery Module could be packed to ship together each month to save on shipping cost!

Looking forward to it all! Thank you all again.

My exact thoughts, in case Paizo is keeping count.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Pawns Subscriber

Precisely, yes. I'd be highly interested in a service for both GameMastery and Pathfinder, to save on shipping costs and such.


My voice: offer a subscription and I will subscribe

P.S. The following does not entirely belong here ... I would very much enjoys contribution guidelines both to the GamMastery and the PathFinder products ... I always felt a little too "constrained" with the D&D material anyway ... this is a beautful opportunity for divergence and creativity ... I would LOVE to contribute!

B.

Cheliax

This looks like the way to go. Pathfinder is just too big to be useful. It will take months of prep time before a DM can even start one of the campaign arcs, if it can be used at all. (Considering this and the cost, it will likely fail).

I think I would like to put my 10 months subscription credit into a subscription to Gamemastery but without ever having seen it before I'm skeptical. I'd like to see a copy first, or a detailed preview.

-W. E. Ray

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Tars Tarkas wrote:
I would also be interested in subscribing to a Gamemastery Modules monthly service. I would be especially interested if Pathfinder and a Gamemastery Module could be packed to ship together each month to save on shipping cost!

We are contemplating that.

We are not planning on offering a GameMastery module subscription as a transition option. If you're interested in Modules, I'd suggest you go for the store credit option.


Now I'm leaning towards the cash refund. Having green in hand may take this foul taste from my mouth.

Cheliax

I hear you Vyvyn but I think the green in hand will make the bitterness worse! When the check comes it will be another cold reminder of what's been taken from us. Besides, that check will come a few months after August. That's alot of time getting nothing. And then, will you really stop purchasing alltogether? It'll be more bitterness when you make another purchase. The best of a bad situation is to support Paizo.

I'm hoping that the Gamemastery module line becomes a subscription. That's where I'm going to get modules. Pathfinder seems doomed to fail after they finish the first 6.

-W. E. Ray


Molech wrote:

I hear you Vyvyn but I think the green in hand will make the bitterness worse! When the check comes it will be another cold reminder of what's been taken from us. Besides, that check will come a few months after August. That's alot of time getting nothing. And then, will you really stop purchasing alltogether? It'll be more bitterness when you make another purchase. The best of a bad situation is to support Paizo.

I'm hoping that the Gamemastery module line becomes a subscription. That's where I'm going to get modules. Pathfinder seems doomed to fail after they finish the first 6.

-W. E. Ray

Actually I think I am done buying from either company. My remaining 11 issues would have gotten me 33 adventures.

My store credit for the same will MAYBE get me 3 Gamemastery modules.

And I won't have to wait until October for my refund if I cancel my subscription now.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

I'll subscribe to GameMastery

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I'd also consider subscribing to a subscription-based service for the gamemastery modules: Everyone likes full-size, full-color maps!


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

I'm also down with a sub to Gamemastery. Actually probably moreso than the Pathfinder as I usually 'retire' characters after about 12th-15th level.


I would subscribe as well.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber

count me in. especially if the two can be combined.


Would love to see a combined subscription service. Great idea.


Just like to add my support to both a GameMastery Module subscription option and a Pathfinder/GameMastery Module joint subscription option.

Olaf the Stout

Taldor

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Tales Subscriber

Hi there,

the more I read about Pathfinder, the more eager I am to get it!

The one thing really troubling me, though, is that there will not be any single adventures any more in Pathfinder, but GameMastery Modules:

Publishing adventure paths means that each authour has to adhere to a common plot. But then some of the most memorable adventures of Dungeon stemmed from authours who provided a look into their very own campaign worlds (like the "Styes").

On the one hand I love the idea to be able to insert any GameMastery module into your (the new) game world - adaption made easy. After a few adventures you know which area of the campaign world has which feel to it.

On the other hand: how are your authours to provide their own views on roleplaying, i.e. their own campaign specific adventures?

Ok. That one went a bit out of thread. Hopefully nevertheless one of you Paizo guys can shed some light on the question how to publish adventures not adhering to your new campaign world.

Greetings,
Günther


Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

I'm very keen on a Gamemastery Modules subscription option as well -- or possibly a combined option.

I don't really like full campaigns, even if they are currently the hottest thing since Lord Flashheart's pants. I want adventures I can insert into my own campaign with little or middling amounts of tweaking. The late, great _Dungeon_ magazine format of three adventures, 1 - Low, 1 - Medium, 1 - High, was PERFECT in just about every way and that's really what I want to see.

Thank you for listening. :)

-The Gneech

Osirion

blope wrote:
count me in. especially if the two can be combined.

ditto

Thoth-Amon


Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber
blope wrote:
count me in. especially if the two can be combined.

Me too.

Contributor

Yes, a subscription service would be nice - esp if coupled with a discount like you're offering for the Pathfinder series.

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I would also subscribe, and especially if the shipping could be combined with pathfinder to cut down the shipping cost (a big concernwith shipping stuff to Australia, especially when the dollar is weak, as it usually is).


Keen to see combined subscription.
You guys turned Dungeon around, I'll subscribe to anything you want right now if you need cash.
NB Sort out pricing for subscriptions to the UK please:-)

Taldor Contributor

A combined subscription would be excellent, especially if you paired different level adventures together. I'm sure you could also offer reduced shipping this way for those of us outside the US.

Craig Shackleton

The Rambling Scribe

Andoran

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

I too would be satisfied with a subscription for the Game Mastery modules (preferrably with a combine PF/GM option). My only request would be for more high level ones, so far I haven't seen one...

I realize of course that high level adventures are more complicated (and thus because time=money, more expensive) but it would be appreciated...

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Pawns Subscriber

Could we get an update on the suggestions we've made here? Is a combined shipment/subscription option even possible? Will there be subscription services for GameMastery and GameMastery+Pathfinder? Thanks!

Paizo Employee PostMonster General

The decision makers on this sort of thing are out of the office this week at GAMA, so I wouldn't expect an official response any time soon.

That said, we have discussed it and think it's a good idea, but there are some tricksy issues involved. One being, GameMastery modules and Pathfinder are each on different schedules, and will be arriving at our warehouse from overseas. That makes it a bit unpredictable as to when they will arrive.

Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Pawns Subscriber

I wouldn't see any problem with waiting for that, yeah.


Pathfinder Modules Subscriber
Gary Teter wrote:

The decision makers on this sort of thing are out of the office this week at GAMA, so I wouldn't expect an official response any time soon.

That said, we have discussed it and think it's a good idea, but there are some tricksy issues involved. One being, GameMastery modules and Pathfinder are each on different schedules, and will be arriving at our warehouse from overseas. That makes it a bit unpredictable as to when they will arrive.

Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

Maybe merge the products into a single one, that has "the next installment of Pathfinder" and "some other adventure" back to back -- with the subscription to that product?

I'm actually very curious as to why Paizo didn't do it that way in the first place. :)

-The Gneech

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Gary Teter wrote:


Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

Depends on the relative shipping costs: If I'd several a few dollars (say $3 or more) by combining shipping (or if there's a combined discount for the books themselves.), I'd be willing to wait a week or so. It's still once/month on average.

If I don't save by combining shipping, then I'd prefer two separate subscriptions, like Dungeon and Dragon were.


I believe I agree completely with Ross. Definitely want a subscription service either way. And preferably one that offers a discount for purchasing both.

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber

Subscriptions, even month-to-month, make it much easier for me to unconsciously get rid of my expendable income. A GameMastery subscription would guarantee a module sold and I would not notice the expense, because I didn't directly pay for it (meaning, I didn't actively add it to a shopping cart and go through the purchase process...). I know how much this sounds like consumer irresponsibility, but I can afford it, and it helps me in the guilt department: don't-really-need-this-but-I-want-it, if you see where I'm coming from...

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

Guys,

Thanks for the positive response to the idea of a GameMastery Module subscription. We're very interested in the idea and I STRONGLY suspect that this is something we will announce very soon.

It probably won't happen until we get back to Seattle next week, though, as we're all at the GAMA Trade Show showing off Pathfinder and our GameMastery line to distributors and retailers. The response so far has been phenomenal.

--Erik

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Cards, Modules Subscriber
Erik Mona wrote:

(...)as we're all at the GAMA Trade Show showing off Pathfinder and our GameMastery line to distributors and retailers. The response so far has been phenomenal.

--Erik

Damn, I kmew I have chosen the wrong occupation! I should have become a distributer or retailer, so I could throw an eye on your stuff already...

As sad as I am about the whole Dragon&Dungeon-Magazine thing, I can't wait to start this new "paizonianised" RPG era!!!

Contributor

Erik Mona wrote:

we're all at the GAMA Trade Show showing off Pathfinder and our GameMastery line to distributors and retailers. The response so far has been phenomenal.

--Erik

Excellent news!!! :-)

Andoran

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

It may be a little late to chime in, but I would not mind having either Pathfinder or Game Mastery shipped a little late (but together) if it meant saving some cash. It would definately help if they were a combined subscription.

Paizo Product+reduced shipping-little "late" arriving=happy consumer

Notice where the caps are.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber

since the modules are starting a few months ahead of pathfinder, maybe there could be some sort of bundled deal for the first few.


I'll be on board for any type of subscription service to your Gamemastery Module line. I will be buying them anyway, but a subscription will just make it more convenient.

Thanks for Everything

Utak


Gary Teter wrote:

The decision makers on this sort of thing are out of the office this week at GAMA, so I wouldn't expect an official response any time soon.

That said, we have discussed it and think it's a good idea, but there are some tricksy issues involved. One being, GameMastery modules and Pathfinder are each on different schedules, and will be arriving at our warehouse from overseas. That makes it a bit unpredictable as to when they will arrive.

Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

I would definently be willing to wait for them to be combined. My experience has been that getting ANYTHING shipped to Australia gets expensive (and even more so when you add in the conversion rate), and so anything that brings the cost down is a good thing.

I would prefer that Pathfinder came on time, and I got the Game Mastery Module a month late instead of the other way around. I am most keen on Pathfinder, and would basically be subscribing to the Module line to get a few adventures to "have up my sleeve" but honestly the real reason would eb to support Paizo as much as possible.


I'd have no issue waiting if it meant that I saved on shipping. I don't plan on running Pathfinder and time soon (I still have to run SCAP and AoWAP first! :-) ).

Olaf the Stout


mevers wrote:
Gary Teter wrote:
Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

I would prefer that Pathfinder came on time, and I got the Game Mastery Module a month late instead of the other way around. I am most keen on Pathfinder, and would basically be subscribing to the Module line to get a few adventures to "have up my sleeve" but honestly the real reason would be to support Paizo as much as possible.

I agree -- having Pathfinder arrive on-time with whatever GameMaster modules have also arrived would be the perfect subscription service! I'll be looking forward to whatever Paizo Publishing offers when they get back in town.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Gary Teter wrote:
Would you be willing to wait for delivery of your Pathfinder because the GameMastery module hasn't arrived yet? (Or vice-versa.)

I'd happily wait on one to save on shipping as a bundle.

For those that have a Pathfinder subscription, my understanding is that the PDF will be available when the issue is ready to ship, so if Pathfinder is delayed a couple weeks, we'd still be able to download the PDF on-time as normal, correct?

If ther is a Gamemastery subscription, might there be a downloadable PDF for subscibers similar to Pathfinder's PDF service?

-Skeld

Paizo Employee PostMonster General

The precise details of when Pathfinder and possible GameMastery downloads will be available are yet to be determined. We've got a lot of filling-in-the-blanks to do before August. :-)

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber
Skeld wrote:

...For those that have a Pathfinder subscription, my understanding is that the PDF will be available when the issue is ready to ship, so if Pathfinder is delayed a couple weeks, we'd still be able to download the PDF on-time as normal, correct?...

I tend to think the Powers might be inclined to make the full pdf unavailable until the book has hit the shelves for a few days; I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are a lot of integrity-challenged (pirates) just waiting in the shadows...

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