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Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


When can we expect our first introduction to this new world Pathfinder will be taking place in?

I'm very excited about the prospect, and I think you guys might be needing more than monsters to flesh this world out. But that will probably have to wait for now.

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Mulban wrote:
When can we expect our first introduction to this new world Pathfinder will be taking place in?

You'll have a peek soon. Soon like later today....

-Vic.
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Sovereign Court

I have a few questions about the campaign world.

Will the Pathfinder avdventures and the Gamemastery adventures be set in the same world?

I noticed that the first Pathfinder adventure path goes up to 15th level instead of 20th level. Is 15th level the 'upper-limit' of NPC power in the campaign world?

If you already use a published game world such as Greyhawk, the Forgotten Realms, Mystra, or Goodman Games' Known Realms, will it be easy to convert the adventures? Will there be obvious conversions (such as a Free City, a former Great Kingdom, a brotherhood of monks to the south, and a land ruled by a demonic demi-god to the north)?

Will Freeport have a place in this world?

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Balabar wrote:
Will the Pathfinder avdventures and the Gamemastery adventures be set in the same world?

Yes.

Balabar wrote:
I noticed that the first Pathfinder adventure path goes up to 15th level instead of 20th level. Is 15th level the 'upper-limit' of NPC power in the campaign world?

No. The upper limit of NPC power is a soft limit of 20th, just like in cor D&D. Pathfinder Adventure Paths will be as long as they need to be to resolve their story, and in the case of Rise of the Runelords, we only need 15 levels. Future Adventure Paths will differ as needed.

Balabar wrote:
If you already use a published game world such as Greyhawk, the Forgotten Realms, Mystra, or Goodman Games' Known Realms, will it be easy to convert the adventures? Will there be obvious conversions (such as a Free City, a former Great Kingdom, a brotherhood of monks to the south, and a land ruled by a demonic demi-god to the north)?

Yes. Our campaign world will be its own entity, but it'll also be very much a classic campaign setting. Pathfinder's Adventure Paths will be about as easy as the Dungeon Adventure Paths to convert, in other words.

Balabar wrote:
Will Freeport have a place in this world?

I love Freeport. While we won't officially be placing Freeport in our world, it'll fit in there easy, I suspect, for any GM who wants to place it there.

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What about Ptolus from Monte Cook? Will there be a place for it, since it seems like you all work with him a bit with the miniatures line?

Will we maybe see some content from Monte since you are working with the OGL now instead of under WoTC's watchful eye?


I think with this news, I am going to make the new Paizo created world my new campaign setting. I was really gettign into Eberron, (and Ia ctually quite like it) but this way I can support Paizo, and i don;t need to buy anyhting from WoTC ever again ,whcih is a VERY good thing after their crazy decison.

Any idea when we can get some info about this new world. Eve nthe name of it would be a good start at this stage.

Sovereign Court

James Jacobs wrote:
Yes. Our campaign world will be its own entity, but it'll also be very much a classic campaign setting. Pathfinder's Adventure Paths will be about as easy as the Dungeon Adventure Paths to convert, in other words.

Great news! While my prefference would be for the new adventure paths to be set in Greyhawk, this is the next best result.

Hopefully the level of detail of the world will be similar to the level of detail in the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer. In other words, just enough detail to flesh out a world, but still plenty of room for a DM to add his own material.

In fact, this new world might be a return to the spirit of Greyhawk, as it appears that the Pathfinder adventures will define the world, just as the old AD&D modules defined Greyhawk.

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MMMmmmm a new world to plunder...


James Jacobs wrote:


Our campaign world will be its own entity, but it'll also be very much a classic campaign setting. Pathfinder's Adventure Paths will be about as easy as the Dungeon Adventure Paths to convert, in other words.

Well, being a Greyhawk snob and all, I've never had to do much more than change a name or two to make the AoW purr along just fine in Greyhawk style. Now, however, I'd like to know if Paizo will still be allowed to (or wish to) provide 'conversion notes' as in the past/present APs. And would they include GH notes then? If so, I'll take my seat in the front row and start converting diligently with all the other humbled grognards...


I hope it does not have a nation of Robot Pirates that ride Dinosaurs or a city of Cowpeople with Bullmen overwizards!


Sebastian wrote:
Will there be smurfs?

I'm watchin you!!!

Howzabout leprechauns?!?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Vic Wertz wrote:
Mulban wrote:
When can we expect our first introduction to this new world Pathfinder will be taking place in?

You'll have a peek soon. Soon like later today....

-Vic.
.

Make that soon like NOW!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Ring of Five wrote:
I'd like to know if Paizo will still be allowed to (or wish to) provide 'conversion notes' as in the past/present APs. And would they include GH notes then?

We can't do that, as those settings are owned by Wizards. However, there's nothing to stop fans from creating conversion notes for non-commercial use, just as you've done to help place previous APs in non-D&D worlds....


Am I right in assuming that Pelor, Wee Jas, Ehlonna, and the other core gods listed in the PHB are Wizards property, and that the world developed in Pathfinder will need its own gods and religions? If so, I suppose the Paizonian bards have already started making them up. Are there any other aspects of world-building that the un-established author could get involved in besides making monsters? Like inventing deities, NPCs (a la critical threat), spells, special settings for side quests, etc.


Will pathfinder world info be limited to release in Pathfinder magazine, or will there be separate releases?

In other words, if I subscribe will I be buying other supplemental material to have a complete source info on the campaign world?


DitheringFool wrote:
MMMmmmm a new world to plunder...

Ah, yes in the words of my first Dungeon Master "Come join the adventure, travel to strange new worlds, explore new places, meet new people, then kill them all, "rescue" their maidens, and take their treasures."

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Yup; all of the gods in the PHB are WotC's property; they're part of the Greyhawk pantheon, actually. That said, Pathfinder's going to have a very similarly sized selection of deities for your clerics (and other divine casters) to choose from... a few of which might have familiar names (one of them rhymes with Razzmodeus).

That said, if we accept a new author's work and intend to publish it as a Pathfinder or GameMastery adventure, one of the things we'll expect from the author is some sort of contribution to this new campaign setting. As long as it's justified and supported and needed by said adventure.

We're not quite sure yet HOW we'll be handling adventure and other submissions, though... stay tuned to paizo.com and we'll figure it out soon enough, though.

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Kruelaid wrote:

Will pathfinder world info be limited to release in Pathfinder magazine, or will there be separate releases?

In other words, if I subscribe will I be buying other supplemental material to have a complete source info on the campaign world?

Pathfinder adventures are set in the same world as our new GameMastery modules. There's certainly a possibility of other releases down the road that would support this new setting, but we've got nothing like that on the schedule yet. Trust me... Pathfinder and item cards and modules and everything else we've got going on right now is more than enough to keep us busy... :-)


Thanks JJ

Don't you sleep? I'm on Hong Kong time, personally, but I'm looking at Seattle's clock here and you should be drunk, asleep, or hunched over a table gaming right now.

I guess it's all that hard work you guys do.

Thanks

PS. I'll subscribe when I figure out the cheapest way to get all that stuff to China w/o doubling the cost of each issue. Hmmm, Can't you just drop it in a hole and have it come out over here?

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Kruelaid wrote:
PS. I'll subscribe when I figure out the cheapest way to get all that stuff to China w/o doubling the cost of each issue. Hmmm, Can't you just drop it in a hole and have it come out over here?

Have you looked at the month-to-month subscription? Shipping is $5 internationally, even to China.

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Kruelaid wrote:

Thanks JJ

Don't you sleep? I'm on Hong Kong time, personally, but I'm looking at Seattle's clock here and you should be drunk, asleep, or hunched over a table gaming right now.

I guess it's all that hard work you guys do.

Thanks

PS. I'll subscribe when I figure out the cheapest way to get all that stuff to China w/o doubling the cost of each issue. Hmmm, Can't you just drop it in a hole and have it come out over here?

Sleep is the mind-killer. AND: I'll go start digging the hole to your place in 20 minutes.


That is what I find the most exicting thing is that it is a whole new world to explore and I am looking forward to finding all new places to kill my pcs in. Any info on the Gods yet? What about the planes?


Seriously, James; do you ever sleep? I'm just revisiting some old PC gaming love with Dungeon Seige in this early AM time, but thats because I ran out of Mountain Dew.

Isn't it sad when you need caffiene to GET sleepy?

Although, you not sleeping is maybe a good thing; means your head is too full of good ideas to take a break. Excellent. No sleep for you! We need all the ideas you got in there!

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

For the time being we're going to focus on how creatures and events on the planes affect the events on our world, rather than focusing specifically on the planes themselves. Our default assumption, at least at present, is that most people will be using the core cosmology of D&D.

--Erik

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The Black Bard wrote:

Seriously, James; do you ever sleep? I'm just revisiting some old PC gaming love with Dungeon Seige in this early AM time, but thats because I ran out of Mountain Dew.

Isn't it sad when you need caffiene to GET sleepy?

Although, you not sleeping is maybe a good thing; means your head is too full of good ideas to take a break. Excellent. No sleep for you! We need all the ideas you got in there!

When I started working at Paizo, I felt a sting at the base of my neck. It was Erik, extracting my Sleep Glands with one of his wrist-mounted lancets. I could tell by the bags under his eyes that he'd not had sleep in weeks, perhaps months, and that he would now doubtless use the glands stolen from my brain to steal my sleep. I've not slept a wink since.

And look at that! Look who else is posting at 2:00 AM in the morning! You'll not get my new sleep glands, Erik! I got them fair and square, using a rusty mellon baller on that new hire! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

Ahem.

Anyway, like I was saying, um... Drink More Ovaltine?


James Jacobs wrote:
Anyway, like I was saying, um... Drink More Ovaltine?

Ah, Milo reigns supreme where I live. I'll be waiting for that preview of the new world you're developing.

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Varisia: Is that the name of the country in which the Rise of the Runelords is set? Is the the name of the Pathfinder campaign setting?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

James Jacobs wrote:
I could tell by the bags under his eyes that he'd not had sleep in weeks, perhaps months, and that he would now doubtless use the glands stolen from my brain to steal my sleep.

Erik uses sheep sleep glands for that. He sold your sleep glands to the highest bidder—and let me tell you, they was muy tasty!

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
I could tell by the bags under his eyes that he'd not had sleep in weeks, perhaps months, and that he would now doubtless use the glands stolen from my brain to steal my sleep.

Erik uses sheep sleep glands for that. He sold your sleep glands to the highest bidder—and let me tell you, they was muy tasty!

-Vic.
.

Hey, I had to turn in my sleep glands when I signed my offer letter! I didn't know they were worth money!

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Amateurs.


I was thinking (if one can call it that at 6:30am); maybe I can use this new setting to fill out another region on Oerth! Seeing that anything like that is off the cards for good now.

A while ago I was going to use Necropolis (by Gary Gygax) to start a campaign in Erypt, and even though that group never got together I know where to look if I want to start something there.

At 1st I was at a loss as to what to do with the Pathfinder world (does it have a name?). I'm sure the adventures will be awesome, it is not about that. It's about me liking MY Greyhawk (so full of history created by years of gaming) and the Pathfinder adventures not fitting snuggly with it. But if the Pathfinder world is not too wacky* I can place it somewhere on Oerth. That would be neat indeed.

* Wacky would be:
- Technology level too high, mainly regarding long range travel.
- Weird cosmology (if it's important to the setting) clashing Greyhawk (or default if you will) cosmology.

Anything that would have a global impact I guess. As long as the setting is contained within its region, which could be huge, all is fine.

On the other hand, gods are fine. My Greyhawk is full ancient and unknown gods, there is no one true pantheon. Inhabitants have no idea how many gods there really are, or what are they really.

Anyway I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

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Hehe...Here's a quick idea off the top of my head.

How about an adventure that features a village where nobody has been able to sleep for 2-3 weeks. Upon investigation, it turns out that the village is infested by psionic parasites that feed on dreams...and that gradually turn their victims into soulless zombies.


Not to threadjack, but you guys just made my daynight with the beautiful Gland Larceny banter.

Now I begin to wonder if Richard Pett is looking for spares... Methinks I glimpsed a Little Goule hiding under the stairs...

Thats it, I call it at unintentional rhyme and cadence. I'm off to bed. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings, but I'm willing to if it means not sounding like an inmate from Meenlock Prison.


Just thinking out loud. Varisia sounds like a venereal disease. Or the name of a Brazilian cross-dresser.

Well, I guess that just makes it all the more exciting.

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James Jacobs wrote:

That said, if we accept a new author's work and intend to publish it as a Pathfinder or GameMastery adventure, one of the things we'll expect from the author is some sort of contribution to this new campaign setting. As long as it's justified and supported and needed by said adventure.

We're not quite sure yet HOW we'll be handling adventure and other submissions, though... stay tuned to paizo.com and we'll figure it out soon enough, though.

If you'll tell me 1.) how to send a query to write an adventure and 2.) how I can add to this huge t-shaped, multi-continent world then I will give you my sleep glands. I have two small kids, I don't use them much anyway.

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Kruelaid wrote:

Thanks JJ

Don't you sleep? I'm on Hong Kong time, personally, but I'm looking at Seattle's clock here and you should be drunk, asleep, or hunched over a table gaming right now.

I guess it's all that hard work you guys do.

Thanks

PS. I'll subscribe when I figure out the cheapest way to get all that stuff to China w/o doubling the cost of each issue. Hmmm, Can't you just drop it in a hole and have it come out over here?

You'd have to put in in the dryer (I know you guys have all my missing socks!) and that would damage the product, unless they make it out of sock material.


James Jacobs wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:

Will pathfinder world info be limited to release in Pathfinder magazine, or will there be separate releases?

In other words, if I subscribe will I be buying other supplemental material to have a complete source info on the campaign world?

Pathfinder adventures are set in the same world as our new GameMastery modules. There's certainly a possibility of other releases down the road that would support this new setting, but we've got nothing like that on the schedule yet. Trust me... Pathfinder and item cards and modules and everything else we've got going on right now is more than enough to keep us busy... :-)

Let me put in a vote to get some kind of gazetteer product as early as possible. I signed up for Pathfinder as soon as I found out about all this mess and I really like the idea of a fresh, new campaign world. I think it would be great if we could get some kind of broad-strokes overview of it early in the process so DMs can have some idea what to do if PCs get of the path or if, like me, you were looking for a new world and might like to set some other adventures there in addition to the Pathfinder paths.

I know you're all worked to death (and lacking sleep glands it would seem) but having even a Greyhawk Folio-style product available this year would make it much more attractive.

Certainly I could set these in whatever world I'm using now and wait to see, but it would be so much better if this could be the start of a continuing campaign, grounded in this new world, where other adventures I already have (Goodman DCCs, other Dungeon issues) could be retooled to fit in. Heck, even just a poster map (or online equivalent) with capsule summaries of important countries would be great.

Oh, and thanks for what you did for Dungeon and Dragon over these last few years (I have them all since 3e started) and good luck on the future.


Vic Wertz wrote:


Make that soon like NOW!

Nice work guys!

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