JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Unless you're using some feat or power I'm not aware of, you can't use 2 greatswords (unless you're a Xill or Thi-kreen and use 4 arms.) Monkey grip lets you use a weapon 1 size category larger with a -2 attack penalty, so you could use a large greatsword, or a large bastard sword (if you have the exotic weapon proficiency for them) and a shield. You can't use the feat for an off hand weapon.
If you play a half-giant or goliath or other race that has the powerful build feature, you could even use this feat to use a Huge greatsword, or Huge bastard sword.
Mission125 |
Unless you're using some feat or power I'm not aware of, you can't use 2 greatswords (unless you're a Xill or Thi-kreen and use 4 arms.) Monkey grip lets you use a weapon 1 size category larger with a -2 attack penalty, so you could use a large greatsword, or a large bastard sword (if you have the exotic weapon proficiency for them) and a shield. You can't use the feat for an off hand weapon.
If you play a half-giant or goliath or other race that has the powerful build feature, you could even use this feat to use a Huge greatsword, or Huge bastard sword.
ok more info. (for my simple question of how big is the sword) i have 2 weapon fighting, over sized 2 weapon fighting. and me and my DM have all ready be over weather i can do it. he wants to know how big the swords are to see if i can sheeth them or even walk around with them crossed on my back.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
JoelF847 wrote:ok more info. (for my simple question of how big is the sword) i have 2 weapon fighting, over sized 2 weapon fighting. and me and my DM have all ready be over weather i can do it. he wants to know how big the swords are to see if i can sheeth them or even walk around with them crossed on my back. not that any of this is you need to know!Unless you're using some feat or power I'm not aware of, you can't use 2 greatswords (unless you're a Xill or Thi-kreen and use 4 arms.) Monkey grip lets you use a weapon 1 size category larger with a -2 attack penalty, so you could use a large greatsword, or a large bastard sword (if you have the exotic weapon proficiency for them) and a shield. You can't use the feat for an off hand weapon.
If you play a half-giant or goliath or other race that has the powerful build feature, you could even use this feat to use a Huge greatsword, or Huge bastard sword.
You still can't do it, even with those feats. oversized 2 weapon fighting only allows you to treat your off hand weapon as light, even if it's not. Even combined with Monkey grip, it doesn't let you use a 2 handed weapon with one hand, especially not a larger sized one.
However, as to your question, a greatsword is about 5 1/2 feet long as a medium weapon, and a large weapon weighs twice what a medium does, per the SRD. Assuming that it gets larger in each dimension in proportion with a size increase, and using the square-cube rule, each dimension should increase by about 26%, which would result in a greatsword that's 6'11" long.
pres man |
If you play a half-giant or goliath or other race that has the powerful build feature, you could even use this feat to use a Huge greatsword, or Huge bastard sword.
Monkey grip and powerful build do not stack. They both allow you to use weapons made for one size larger than you (which for a medium character would be large).
GeraintElberion |
ok more info. (for my simple question of how big is the sword) i have 2 weapon fighting, over sized 2 weapon fighting. and me and my DM have all ready be over whether i can do it. he wants to know how big the swords are to see if i can sheeth them or even walk around with them crossed on my back.
You didn't immediately get the answer you were looking for because the question you asked was unclear. So people tried to give you a complete answer, with as much information as possible. So, now you know, and you also know that to do this is a houserule and not part of the normal game.
Isn't that nice.
Natsu |
well i get you dude i´ve tried to do so many times in the past, is seems legal for me a my Dm. is just a lot of people don´t get it. a great sword is the equivalent of a long sword, in large size. so ny thinking you think what I have think, yes you can use across your backk they are BIG, a and of course to avoid anoiying pj´s questions sai something like this are not regular great swords this are long swodrs that I take from a dead hill giant
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
well i get you dude i´ve tried to do so many times in the past, is seems legal for me a my Dm. is just a lot of people don´t get it. a great sword is the equivalent of a long sword, in large size. so ny thinking you think what I have think, yes you can use across your backk they are BIG, a and of course to avoid anoiying pj´s questions sai something like this are not regular great swords this are long swodrs that I take from a dead hill giant
Except what you're describing is actually a large sized longsword, which is shorter and lighter than a medium sized greatsword, not to mention balanced for one handed use instead of two handed use.
GeraintElberion |
Well I understand you dude I´ve tried to do so many times in the past, it seems legal for me and my DM. It's just that a lot of people don´t understand. A great sword is the equivalent of a long sword, in large size. so I think; "Yes, you can carry them across your back." They are BIG. To avoid annoying questions; these are not regular great swords they are long swords that have been taken from a dead hill giant.
I think I've made it legible...
To clarify.
A greatsword is not a large-size longsword. If you have two large-size longswords then that's what you have.
A large longsword will be about 5ft long and do 2d6 damage.
Two-Weapon Fighting lets you use a weapon in each hand.
Oversized two-weapon fighting lets you use a full size weapon in each hand.
Monkey Grip lets you wield a large weapon.
So... You can wield two large longswords, but not two large greatswords (because greatswords are two-handed weapons).
If you took two longswords from a hill-giant then that's what you've got and you can wield two-handed, although you'll have stacked up the attack penalties.
pres man |
To clarify.
Two-Weapon Fighting lets you use a weapon in each hand.Monkey Grip lets you wield a large weapon.
So... You can wield two large longswords, but not two large greatswords (because greatswords are two-handed weapons).
Just to clarify a bit more. You can use an extra weapon without the TWF feat, you just take bigger penalties. Monkey grip allows you to wield a bigger weapon in your on-hand (or two-handed) but not in your off-hand. With powerful build you could wield two large longswords, with monkey grip you can not.
Craig Shackleton Contributor |
Just to answer your specific question, a large greatsword would probably be 8-12 feet long. A large longsword would be about 5-7 feet long.
Realistically, I can't imagine anyone could normally walk around with two large greatswords on their back, but the encumbrance rules tend to overlook this sort of thing.
pres man |
Just to answer your specific question, a large greatsword would probably be 8-12 feet long. A large longsword would be about 5-7 feet long.
Realistically, I can't imagine anyone could normally walk around with two large greatswords on their back, but the encumbrance rules tend to overlook this sort of thing.
Large sized weapons are twice as heavy as their medium sized counterpart. Thus assuming that the mass is expanded in all three dimensions the length should be cuberoot(2)~1.26 times longer than it is for a medium greatsword. So using your 5-7 ft range for a medium greatsword a large sized version should have a range of 6.3-8.82 ft.
Denmark |
Y'all keep looking at the weight and doing the correct math from that. Don't.
A weapon designed for a creature one size category larger needs to be twice as long. While that doesn't jive with the listed weights, oh well. Large is twice as tall as Medium. Medium is twice as tall as Small. Greatswords should be about as tall as the user. So, a greatsword for a Medium creature is probably 6 feet long (or close). A greatsword for a Large creature would be 12 feet long. If you don't follow this rule, you end up with giants using greatswords that are only half their height (or worse!). Imagine a Huge giant (averaging 24 feet tall) using a greatsword. A Huge greatsword should be 24 feet tall.
Of course, this is why it is ridiculous for a Medium creature to use a Large creature's greatsword.