The Community Use Package will be updated with those images. I'm starting to (knock on wood) get more ahead on my to-do list, so we'll see how soon that update and some new avatars make an appearance :)
Thanks for the heads up.
Oh happy days! Thanks a lot Chris!
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THIS JUST IN: We are all highly appreciative of the hard work the staff at Paizo does for the community! Thank you!
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Hey guys! We are now all caught up on the RPG, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, and Player Companion lines! About 340 new avatars have been added to the pool for selection :)
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I'm surprised Chris took the tooth fairy instead of a Numerian robot.
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After three years, it was time for a change that more accurately represented ~*the real me*~.
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Outlook good!
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YESSSSSSS Finally a Protean avatar snuck in!
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I love them!
Thanks. ^_^
Hey guys! We are now all caught up on the RPG, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, and Player Companion lines! About 340 new avatars have been added to the pool for selection :)Sweet!
... *sees avatar*
Aww I liked the cute possessed girl.
And I would like being able to use the cute possessed girl as an avatar someday.
Otherwise, neet!
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Thanks very much. :)
Awe Yeah!
Still no Squirrels but plenty of other great new additions.
The monster Codex ratfolk remind me of mouse guard.
Still no Squirrels but plenty of other great new additions.
The monster Codex ratfolk remind me of mouse guard.
They DO kind of, don't they?
We does so very much appreciate these cute little avatars, yes we does. You does so much for us because avatars this evil aren't born, they're MAID! UUWEEHEEHEE!!
Maybe someone asked this already, but since it's quite difficult to find without reading all this thread (and maybe others)... I've read custom avatars won't be added, but what about lists of avatars proposed by users (always 90x90 pixels), maybe in a specific thread (much like the Bestiary wish list threads)?
As a wanna-be PbP player, I have a very difficult time finding avatars for my characters.
I understand custom avatars may be unwanted because some users could load inappropriate/offensive ones (althogh nearly any messageboard on the web allows custom avatars, and that is rarely an issue), but proposed and accepted ones should be fine, no?.
Serpent, Paizo does not create new art for avatars. All new avatars are taken from art commissioned for other Paizo products.
If you're suggesting that you want to ask for "I need an elf rogue with a red shirt, wielding a kukri" or something like that, there is no way to get art like that made, other than coincidence (the art team is not going to spend their precious budget on making art for the messageboard instead of serving the needs of the product.)
If you're suggesting 'hey, the rogue of page XXX of the YYY book would make a cool avatar', that's already what happens. Pretty much any suitable piece of artwork becomes an avatar, if you're patient.
Nope, I was suggesting that users suggest their own 90x90 taken from whatever in the web or self-made.
For example, I go to DeviantArt, see a cool picture, crop a 90x90 portrait and suggest it. Of course, hopefully there will be sets of good pictures in any post, not just posts with a single picture of a stick-man or things like that.
Copyright/permission from owners shouldn't be an issue, since everyone on the web uses any kind of picture as a messageboard avatar every day with no one complaining about that.
It's been suggested and rejected several times in the past. That's not the only reason, there's also the need to police when people use NSFW or otherwise inappropriate avatars.
Might as well drop that train of thought, it's been brought up before and Paizo is not interested in pursuing it.
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Copyright/permission from owners shouldn't be an issue, since everyone on the web uses any kind of picture as a messageboard avatar every day with no one complaining about that.
"Everyone does it" isn't a very good legal defense. It just makes it more embarrassing if you end up being the one who gets busted, prosecuted and actually convicted for jaywalking.
I agree with you that copyright/permission *shouldn't* be an issue, but until we get a reform in copyright law, it unfortunately *is* an issue.
Nope, I was suggesting that users suggest their own 90x90 taken from whatever in the web or self-made.
For example, I go to DeviantArt, see a cool picture, crop a 90x90 portrait and suggest it. Of course, hopefully there will be sets of good pictures in any post, not just posts with a single picture of a stick-man or things like that.
Copyright/permission from owners shouldn't be an issue, since everyone on the web uses any kind of picture as a messageboard avatar every day with no one complaining about that.
So, users suggest/submit images that the site admins would have to aprove or disaprove?
So, users suggest/submit images that the site admins would have to aprove or disaprove?
Yes.
"Everyone does it" isn't a very good legal defense. It just makes it more embarrassing if you end up being the one who gets busted, prosecuted and actually convicted for jaywalking.
I agree with you that copyright/permission *shouldn't* be an issue, but until we get a reform in copyright law, it unfortunately *is* an issue.
Well, it's not like "everyone is stealing"... it's just that everyone uses pictures as messageboard avatars. No one is making a profit of it (I don't even see how that could be done, using them as avatars), claiming them as their own or whatever. As long as you don't actually steal a picture that isn't publicly available on the web (as in the iCloud incident a few months ago) or pretend to be a FBI agent just because you have its logo as avatar, what's the actual matter?
But whatever, just replying to the discussion... it's not like I want to insist on it, if Paizo already said no.
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Hey there. To give some perspective from the avatar/moderation bot in addition to the reasons above: we get that having an avatar that is more unique or personal would be cool. However, the time we would spend filtering through images to make sure that they don't break our Community Guidelines is probably better spent on cool projects that our team does as their official respective jobs, improvements for our community, and making more avatars for our general pool (hm... I need to get on that one).
Hey there. To give some perspective from the avatar/moderation bot in addition to the reasons above: we get that having an avatar that is more unique or personal would be cool. However, the time we would spend filtering through images to make sure that they don't break our Community Guidelines is probably better spent on cool projects that our team does as their official respective jobs, improvements for our community, and making more avatars for our general pool (hm... I need to get on that one).
Pay someone just for that?
... that and having moderators that do the moderation job on holidays and weekend (less moderation to do when coming back from those)
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Well, it's not like "everyone is stealing"... it's just that everyone uses pictures as messageboard avatars. No one is making a profit of it (I don't even see how that could be done, using them as avatars), claiming them as their own or whatever. As long as you don't actually steal a picture that isn't publicly available on the web (as in the iCloud incident a few months ago) or pretend to be a FBI agent just because you have its logo as avatar, what's the actual matter?
The matter is that you're still taking and using something that doesn't belong to you. If I took your car and drove around in it, that would still be wrong, even if I didn't make a profit doing it, or claim to be an FBI agent in it. The *exact* same principle applies to art.
Now, you are right -- when it comes to art, everybody does it, yes. But most of us are just individuals, and most art owners don't bother to go after individuals. We only get away with it because the owners can't be bothered with suing a million Joe Averages. But Paizo as a company can't count on the same "flying under the radar" principle. If an actual company started using someone's art, that someone might be much more inclined to stand up and say, "Hey! Hang on a minute!" And depending on how much of an ass the art owner is, and how much money they're willing to spend on lawyering up, that could quickly escalate to a lot of trouble for Paizo which they would probably rather avoid.
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Hey there. To give some perspective from the avatar/moderation bot in addition to the reasons above: we get that having an avatar that is more unique or personal would be cool. However, the time we would spend filtering through images to make sure that they don't break our Community Guidelines is probably better spent on cool projects that our team does as their official respective jobs, improvements for our community, and making more avatars for our general pool (hm... I need to get on that one).Pay someone just for that?
... that and having moderators that do the moderation job on holidays and weekend (less moderation to do when coming back from those)
Even then, I doubt we'd task them with filtering through images. I'd suggest forwarding other suggestions for our forum moderation to community @paizo.com though, as this thread isn't the most fitting for referencing that kind of feedback.
Even then, I doubt we'd task them with filtering through images. I'd suggest forwarding other suggestions for our forum moderation to community @paizo.com though, as this thread isn't the most fitting for referencing that kind of feedback.Hey there. To give some perspective from the avatar/moderation bot in addition to the reasons above: we get that having an avatar that is more unique or personal would be cool. However, the time we would spend filtering through images to make sure that they don't break our Community Guidelines is probably better spent on cool projects that our team does as their official respective jobs, improvements for our community, and making more avatars for our general pool (hm... I need to get on that one).Pay someone just for that?
... that and having moderators that do the moderation job on holidays and weekend (less moderation to do when coming back from those)
K, sorry...
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Hey there. To give some perspective from the avatar/moderation bot in addition to the reasons above: we get that having an avatar that is more unique or personal would be cool. However, the time we would spend filtering through images to make sure that they don't break our Community Guidelines is probably better spent on cool projects that our team does as their official respective jobs, improvements for our community, and making more avatars for our general pool (hm... I need to get on that one).Pay someone just for that?
... that and having moderators that do the moderation job on holidays and weekend (less moderation to do when coming back from those)
Hiring somebody to check if uploaded forum avatars aren't ducks (except, not ducks) or obscure artwork from a WotC product which could lead to a C&D letter and to argue with some nutjob who thinks that rejecting his avatar of mutilated corpse of Noam Chomsky violates his First Amendment rights is one of the worst ROI possible, ever.
The matter is that you're still taking and using something that doesn't belong to you. If I took your car and drove around in it, that would still be wrong, even if I didn't make a profit doing it, or claim to be an FBI agent in it. The *exact* same principle applies to art.
You understand it's definitely not the same...
Now, you are right -- when it comes to art, everybody does it, yes. But most of us are just individuals, and most art owners don't bother to go after individuals. We only get away with it because the owners can't be bothered with suing a million Joe Averages. But Paizo as a company can't count on the same "flying under the radar" principle. If an actual company started using someone's art, that someone might be much more inclined to stand up and say, "Hey! Hang on a minute!" And depending on how much of an ass the art owner is, and how much money they're willing to spend on lawyering up, that could quickly escalate to a lot of trouble for Paizo which they would probably rather avoid.
All that still falls on the fields of taking that art to use it for profit and/or taking it from a source that isn't openly available.
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The matter is that you're still taking and using something that doesn't belong to you. If I took your car and drove around in it, that would still be wrong, even if I didn't make a profit doing it, or claim to be an FBI agent in it. The *exact* same principle applies to art.You understand it's definitely not the same...
Of course it's not the same. Physical objects and intellectual property are two very different things. That's why I'm a very strong advocate of copyright reform, because they *should* be treated more differently. But right now, legally, they *aren't* treated very differently. You're breaking the law whether you're taking someone else's physical object or intellectual property.
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I really don't think this is the thread to discuss the state of copyright law.
REQUEST:
Eutharic from Pathfinder Tales/The Cloak of Belonging?
Especially if he can be cracking his knuckles in the avatar pic.
Did avatars from Inner Sea Gods ever make it in?
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The choices under Gender are now Male, Female, Unspecified, and Iomedae. (Looks like "Iomedae" was accidentally entered in the Gender field as well as the Name field for an image from Undead Unleashed.)
The choices under Gender are now Male, Female, Unspecified, and Iomedae. (Looks like "Iomedae" was accidentally entered in the Gender field as well as the Name field for an image from Undead Unleashed.)
O.o! I'll look into that and get it fixed as soon as I'm able. If you notice anything else weird, let me know!
The choices under Gender are now Male, Female, Unspecified, and Iomedae. (Looks like "Iomedae" was accidentally entered in the Gender field as well as the Name field for an image from Undead Unleashed.)
Hm, I didn't realize Iomedae was that flexible. ;P
Would have thought someone would replace Iomedae with Arshea though.
If it's one of the youzngest couple of batches, it might not show up in the filters. If you go "sort by date" and check page 3 i see two avatars there that match your description somewhat, Couatl (line 4) and a Serpentfolk (line 9).
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Hm, this thread is good and old, but as good as any! Enjoy 700 new avatars that catch us up to our latest releases (sans the product lines without avatars before, we're working on it).
Go forth and create some amusing aliases!
Ice Bear is happy.
I so want a Melligaster avatar...
Hm, this thread is good and old, but as good as any! Enjoy 700 new avatars that catch us up to our latest releases (sans the product lines without avatars before, we're working on it).
Go forth and create some amusing aliases!
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It's all the epic jams i've been cranking, i bet.