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Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Maybe I should just come right out and say it: the answer is *not* a combination of the letters ROYGBIV.

-Vic.
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Thanks Vic! Let me see if I can try something else.


~Looks around for a concrete wall~ Ah! This should do! ~Puts up a big bullseye on the wall~ Humn. This is missing something! OH!!! ~Takes a pen and writes this caption...

IN TIMES OF STRESS, BANG HEAD HERE!!!

Proceeds to start to bang my head~


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
Sharoth wrote:

~Looks around for a concrete wall~ Ah! This should do! ~Puts up a big bullseye on the wall~ Humn. This is missing something! OH!!! ~Takes a pen and writes this caption...

IN TIMES OF STRESS, BANG HEAD HERE!!!

Proceeds to start to bang my head~

can i be next in line, please?

seriously, if it has nothing to do with an anagram of roygbiv, then i really have no idea whatsoever.

i guess i won't be buying any of titanic's games. they are obviously too hard for me.

messy


~staggers out of the way~ All... yours... messy! ~falls down~

P.S. - Yep, messy. I too am stumped. I guess that is why I so rarely do puzzles. I am too easly frustrated.


messy wrote:
Lord Stewpndous wrote:

Start with Indigo and work your way toward the front of the drawing. Indigo then Red and so on with Orange being last.

I finally figured it out with vandemonium's poem! :)

ok, i have the list of the colors, and i still have no idea whatsoever.

the only thing i'm sure of is that i feel like the recipient of a feeblemind spell.

messy

Glad it helped someone! The only other clue I can think of to help those still struggling (I do feel for ya, I was there with you until late yesterday) is this. Since Mike S. was involved with D&D this question heralds back to the 80's red box that got me hooked on gaming. What was the name of the company that released that edition of D&D?

That with the poem should <i>spell it out</i> for ya ;o)

Mods - if this is too, too much of a clue feel free to snip :o) I'm not trying to give too much away, but I know how frustrated I was getting...
van


Wasn't the Red-Box written by Tom Moldvay and published by Tactical Studies Rules (TSR)?

Liberty's Edge

Sharoth wrote:

~staggers out of the way~ All... yours... messy! ~falls down~

P.S. - Yep, messy. I too am stumped. I guess that is why I so rarely do puzzles. I am too easly frustrated.

So...you admit defeat to Heathansson...the Puzzle Master?

(edit) nuthing against you other guys...just gotta give Sharoth a hard time whenever possible.


... readily.

*Genuflect*

And if you don't mind, I am throwing in the cards. So if someone has solved it, feel free to send me a walkthrough of how it was solved.

Thanks.

dracorat at ya who dot com.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Interesting puzzle, although I doubt anyone not using the Roman alphabet would be able to solve it.

And IMHO, the big T showing up in the *middle* is a little misleading.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

modus0 wrote:
And IMHO, the big T showing up in the *middle* is a little misleading.

We thought about that, but we didn't want to give it away entirely. Plus it looks cooler in the middle. :-)


Dracorat wrote:

... readily.

*Genuflect*

And if you don't mind, I am throwing in the cards. So if someone has solved it, feel free to send me a walkthrough of how it was solved.

Thanks.

dracorat at ya who dot com.

I sent you something. It spells it out clearly but falls short giving it away completely.


Someone did help me out with explaining the puzzle, so thanks all. Although I still don't 'get' where the letters came from, but regardless, I can sleep peacefully now.


Thanks, Jade!


OK, from the answer, I just reverse engineered how to get to the letters needed for the solution.

So, for those who might be stuck on them, I will say this:

This is a *very* language dependant puzzle. It relies the on the roman alphabet (the one we use).

I'll say no more.


Dracorat wrote:
Thanks, Jade!

My pleasure, good sir. :)


Dracorat wrote:
Wasn't the Red-Box written by Tom Moldvay and published by Tactical Studies Rules (TSR)?

Sounds like you got it, but yes, TSR.

dvs


Heya, I have been away for a few days and am just getting back into this. First, I left thinking the answer may be a sequence of 7 digits, but reading through it seems like everyone is saying it is a sequence of 7 letters. Is this correct, is the answer a sequence of letters?

Also, people have been saying the location of the big T marks a specific stone. But, to me it looks like the big T is over that slender stone lying on its side, like an alter, in the middle of the circle. This makes no sense to me. Is it supposed to mark the center top stone farthest away from us? Or, is the stone my mouse is over when the big T appears the marked stone?

I am going to try this:
- number each stone starting with the top stone (some numbers will have to be inferred by counting in from the sides and knowing there are 26 stones - 2x the number between the horizontal lines.
- mark each number with the color that appears when you mouse over it
- put them in ROYGBIV order
- replace each number with the corresponding letter of the alphabet.

Now the trick here is to know where the 1st stone is!!!

Am I on the right track??

Liberty's Edge

You are definitely getting warm.


Vic Wertz wrote:


There are 30 capstones. That's not really important to the puzzle—only the ones you can see are of value to the solution. But if thinking that there are 26 or 28 helps you solve the puzzle, go nuts!

Ok.


Well, that didn't work out as I expected. Depending upon which stone is Blue and which is Indigo I got:

fspilbj or fspiblj

If I write ROYGBIV and then put the corresponding number or count next to each colors letter with big T marking stone 1, then I get:

erohkai

Which is also a bust.. ah... Ok, that is my attention span.

Goodnight.


I have solved it but i must say that you people that have created this puzzle are EVIL. I look back now at the posts about people solving it and the clues that they give you. Now i see where they all fit in. I congratualate all those that solved it before me and those that will solve it after me. To those that have yet to solve it, i wont give anything away, i say Good Luck


oh and As much of a pain in the *SS this puzzle was, i enjoyed it and i hope there will be more


Travioli wrote:
... I look back now at the posts about people solving it and the clues that they give you. Now i see where they all fit in. ...

I just got it.

Sovereign Court

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dang! figuring out where to start took me quite a while despite all the clues. i guess i was distracted by the big t-shaped beacon in the sky. not a good place to start at all! i was also snared by the siren-song of numbers for quite a while. for anyone still working, you can avoid numbers all together if you like, and if you insist on using them, by all means, don't start with 1! for best results, follow the beacon to its source. from t here, it's a race against the clock to the beginning. best of luck.


If the cap stone I mouse over for the T goes with the letter "T" and then I go counter clockwise, rolling over from z to a..

What did I do wrong?

a
b G
c V
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y R
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ROYGBIV = ylibeuc


Jail House Rock wrote:


If [...]

What did I do wrong?

If this is your strategy, how did you end up with letters beyond the letter T?

I think you need to apply your strat again and be very careful about labelling.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

I'll say this:

The position where the "T" shows up isn't important.

Infer from that what you will. :P


modus0 wrote:

I'll say this:

The position where the "T" shows up isn't important.

Infer from that what you will. :P

Oh man, I've been working at this for a long time and I just got it. It is definitely one of those things that make you want to curse yourself for not figuring it out earlier. I was REALLY, REALLY overthinking... Thanks, the last 2 hints helped me FINALLY figure it out.

Good luck to everyone else who was as stumped as I was.

BM


Dracorat wrote:

If this is your strategy, how did you end up with letters beyond the letter T?

I think you need to apply your strat again and be very careful about labelling.

Failure to count, maybe?


Are the four pillars with the cross stones used in the solution? Or, do you only use the capstones on the outside.

If the four central pillars with capstones are used,
do I put T I T A N over each of them and then somehow
imagine the sun shining through them?

The Exchange

Jail House Rock wrote:


If the cap stone I mouse over for the T goes with the letter "T" and then I go counter clockwise, rolling over from z to a..

What did I do wrong?

a
b G
c V
d
e B
f
g
h
i Y
j
k
l O
m
n
o
p
q
r
s
t
u I
v
w
x
y R
z

ROYGBIV = ylibeuc

Did you try going counterclockwise? ;)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Jail House Rock wrote:
Are the four pillars with the cross stones used in the solution? Or, do you only use the capstones on the outside.

You can safely ignore the five trilithons and the altar stone in the middle.

-Vic.
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Got it, finally! And yes, the placement of the "T" stone is pretty major.

Paizo Employee CEO

I actually just got it myself. I asked the staff not to tell me how to solve the puzzle, and I was just as puzzled as most of you were. Thanks to some of the clues various posters on this messageboard gave. They helped. Once you got it, it actually seems pretty easy. Realizing that it wasn't numbers really helped.

Good luck to everyone else! Can't wait to see what Mike cooks up next.

-Lisa


Lisa Stevens wrote:
I actually just got it myself.

Got it too.

The T clue really did it for me.

Nice puzzle!

Scarab Sages

Yeah, I finally figured it out too, but having Heathenson beat me to the answer just makes me feel dirty. And not in a good way.

Liberty's Edge

Gavgoyle wrote:
Yeah, I finally figured it out too, but having Heathenson beat me to the answer just makes me feel dirty. And not in a good way.

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.


Any idea as to when the next puzzle will be?


Travioli wrote:
Any idea as to when the next puzzle will be?

To be perfectly coy:

Yes.


Vic Wertz wrote:

Can you solve the mystery?

http://titanic-games.com/equinox

Woo hoo! I had to rush home from work just to keep working on this. I finally got it!!

It was jail house rock's post that set me straight to it in one try.

I have to admit though, that Vic's comment that it did not matter which language you spoke caused me to move from alphabets to numbers and that was keeping me out. But, now I understand what he meant when he added not(Elvish or Klingon). Vic it would have been better if you had said not Japanese or Chinese. I am just gripping now, because it took me so long to get to the answer - it is all your fault!! :)

Scarab Sages

Yeah, focusing on math as the universal language really sent me down the wrong track. Just got it now. I can say honestly that there is no way in hell that I would have gotten the puzzle without the rest of the posters shovel feeding it to me.

Tam

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

Tensor wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Can you solve the mystery?

I have to admit though, that Vic's comment that it did not matter which language you spoke caused me to move from alphabets to numbers and that was keeping me out. But, now I understand what he meant when he added not(Elvish or Klingon). Vic it would have been better if you had said not Japanese or Chinese. I am just gripping now, because it took me so long to get to the answer - it is all your fault!! :)

It's more misleading than that. It works in English, German, or French but not Esperanto, Romanian or Spanish. Whether or not it works in a given language is very up in the air.

Russ


Tensor wrote:


It was jail house rock's post that set me straight to it in one try.

Well glad I could help, because I still don't see what the big T is all about.

Maybe I could try all the sevel letter combinations of the alphabet. Yay, that should not take too long!!

Now I feel all spiteful.

Liberty's Edge

Jail House Rock wrote:
Tensor wrote:


It was jail house rock's post that set me straight to it in one try.

Well glad I could help, because I still don't see what the big T is all about.

Maybe I could try all the sevel letter combinations of the alphabet. Yay, that should not take too long!!

Now I feel all spiteful.

You're right. You don't see what the big T is all about. Once you figure THAT out, I think you're home free.

(I'm trying not to give it away).

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Shifty Henry said to Bugs, "For heaven's sake... someone went widdershins when they oughtn't."

-Vic.
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Scarab Sages

Vic Wertz wrote:

Shifty Henry said to Bugs, "For heaven's sake... someone went widdershins when they oughtn't."

-Vic.

Dude, I think I just got cultural whiplash from that combo...

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:

Shifty Henry said to Bugs, "For heaven's sake... someone went widdershins when they oughtn't."

-Vic.
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Gor blimey an strike a lite, guv. Ats not cricket!


Vic Wertz wrote:

Shifty Henry said to Bugs, "For heaven's sake... someone went widdershins when they oughtn't."

-Vic.
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You know, I actually understand your jazz. My name may be Shifty, but I am not a pagan . ;)

If only I could turn my clock backwards I would be able to see a rainbow.

Nice rock! (I finally got it)

Also, they don't look that bad.

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