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Hey folks. Just confirming - it can be solved. Keep at it. Good puzzle, Titan Games.

Russ

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Tensor wrote:


I am assuming the T marks the Zero position,

what if the T marks the 1 position? and what if the count goes clockwise? i tried using the count starting with T as 0 and as 1, clockwise and counterclockwise, taking the second digit of numbers of the blocks (1-18) where each color fell and puting them in ROYGBIV order, and nothing. but whatever way one counts the blocks and assignes numbers to the colors, puting them in ROYGBIV order makes sense.

btw, those numbers were:

starting with T=0, counterclockwise: 5858119
clockwise, T=19: 9118585
T=1 (so 20 blocks total), counterclockwise: 6969220
clockwise, T=20: 0229696

question - are we fairly sure that the important part of the big T clue is the block that triggers it and not the blocks it appears over?

another question - how many blocks is it all the way around? it's hard to count but one would assume 28 if it's a lunar calendar and 30 (31?) if it's solar. might this matter?

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Mike Selinker wrote:
Perhaps treating the grouping of trilithons in the center as one unit might help.

i also tried assigning numbers to colors based on their relation to the INNER stones based on this comment, but they don't line up well enough to correspond.


Mosaic wrote:
Mike Selinker wrote:
Perhaps treating the grouping of trilithons in the center as one unit might help.
i also tried assigning numbers to colors based on their relation to the INNER stones based on this comment, but they don't line up well enough to correspond.

Here's a clue that, combined with the references to the "T", will probably get it for you.

Looking at the rendering, you can see that all the stones are roughly the same size. If you look closely at the left and right sides, you can see that the line between stones is horizontal at one point. Count the number of stones between those horizontal lines, then double it -- that'll give you the number of stones forming the ring.

(I'm referring here to the capstones, some of which change color when you mouse over them.)

Once you know how many stones form that ring, it should become clear. Seriously. I won't tell you the number, 'cause that'd be giving away too much I think. But once you know it, everything else should fall into place.


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LonePaladin wrote:


Once you know how many stones form that ring, it should become clear. Seriously. I won't tell you the number, 'cause that'd be giving away too much I think. But once you know it, everything else should fall into place.

This did it for me, but I did need one other piece of information. The colors *are* important, and the light blue is definitely "blue" and the dark blue is definitely "indigo".

Good job Titanic!


Vic Wertz wrote:
Technically, you could solve this puzzle even if you only spoke French, Portuguese, or Pig Latin.

Having solved the puzzle, I'm not convinced someone who only spoke Portuguese would get it...

And I think http://titanic-games.com/******* would be funnier than http://titanic-games.com/??????? :D

-Hyp.


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for those of us who have torn out nearly all of our hair, can we get another clue?? we are pondering 30 and the colors of the rainbow, and are on the verge of buying rogaine!

messy


messy wrote:

for those of us who have torn out nearly all of our hair, can we get another clue?? we are pondering 30 and the colors of the rainbow, and are on the verge of buying rogaine!

messy

LOL - glad I'm not the only one...


messy wrote:

for those of us who have torn out nearly all of our hair, can we get another clue?? we are pondering 30 and the colors of the rainbow, and are on the verge of buying rogaine!

messy

You got 30? Aw, MAAAAAAAAAAAAN. I thought it was 28.

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Could the stones represent positions on a clock? Doesn't make much sense since there seems to be 30 stones, but there were earlier hints about what time it was and the "T" could possibly stand for time.

Hmmm... I think I'll wait for a future clue.


I agree that the number of capstones is a dead giveaway... provided you actually count them correctly! (Trust me, it's less than 30...) Although it was the position of the Titanic-T that gave it away for me. With tongue-in-cheek I can truly say it's all about how you start out.

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A friend and I solved it separately and we got two different answers! Both work and they take you to different places...


i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?


Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

I'm not sure, but in any case, none of those numbers jump out at me as the dead give away that others are saying. I'm not saying they aren't but I just am not seeing it...


I got 28 capstones. Phases of the moon maybe?


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vandemonium wrote:
Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

I'm not sure, but in any case, none of those numbers jump out at me as the dead give away that others are saying. I'm not saying they aren't but I just am not seeing it...

ditto.

and everyone saying the number of stones makes the answer obvious is making me feel like an ogre in a room full of illithids.

*drinks potion of fox's cunning*

still nothing...

messy


DitheringFool wrote:
A friend and I solved it separately and we got two different answers! Both work and they take you to different places...

Just so this doesn't confuse the masses, one of the answers was correct and the other one, essentially, generated an error that took the friend to the titanic-games.com main page. There is only one right answer--you'll know it when you solve it.

I should also mention that my contact deep within the Druidic Order has informed me another clue should be released this week. Being the clever and secretive bunch that they are, they failed to give me a time or exact date stating only, "This week!" when pushed for specifics.

Stay tuned. And thanks for playing. :-)

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Tensor wrote:
Reading some of the above hints from Vic I think the answer is a 7 digit number.

Remember Gary's hint: speaking English can help you recognize when you have arrived at the right answer.

(But I stand by my statement that you can solve this puzzle even if you only speak French, Portuguese, or Pig Latin. However, as I said, you may have difficulty if you only speak Elvish, or, for that matter, Klingon or Martian.)

-Vic.
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Got it. Oh, you clever, clever monkeys! Good puzzle. You realize, of course, that I'll be looking for more of these in the future.

And a tip of the hat to previous posters. Knowing the correct number of stones is crucial.


Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

SOME CLUES AHEAD

Well, it's nothing to do with lunar cycles or clock time. The key word in regard to the colours is RED. As in the type of fish. Shame on some of the posters for your trickery! Language would make a difference to someone speaking, say, French who didn't also read English, but then again they wouldn't be reading this forum.

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Honestly, I think these kinds of gimmicks cause more frustration than anticipation. I can't see it helping marketing at all.

PS: Feel free to edit my post if you think I'm giving away too much, I don't know how to put spoiler tags into this system.


Vic Wertz wrote:
(But I stand by my statement that you can solve this puzzle even if you only speak French,

Uhh, no, it's different. Unless you're an English-speaking Frenchman, which many are these days.

>Portuguese

Yes.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t


Krypter wrote:
Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

SOME CLUES AHEAD

Well, it's nothing to do with lunar cycles or clock time. The key word in regard to the colours is RED. As in the type of fish. Shame on some of the posters for your trickery! Language would make a difference to someone speaking, say, French who didn't also read English, but then again they wouldn't be reading this forum.

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Honestly, I think these kinds of gimmicks cause more frustration than anticipation. I can't see it helping marketing at all.

PS: Feel free to edit my post if you think I'm giving away too much, I don't know how to put spoiler tags into this system.

Thank you so much, Krypter. That will save me much time as I was headed in quite the wrong direction.


Krypter wrote:
Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

SOME CLUES AHEAD

Well, it's nothing to do with lunar cycles or clock time. The key word in regard to the colours is RED. As in the type of fish. Shame on some of the posters for your trickery! Language would make a difference to someone speaking, say, French who didn't also read English, but then again they wouldn't be reading this forum.

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Honestly, I think these kinds of gimmicks cause more frustration than anticipation. I can't see it helping marketing at all.

PS: Feel free to edit my post if you think I'm giving away too much, I don't know how to put spoiler tags into this system.

w00t! This put me over the edge! Muchos gracias!!

So yea, the number is not 30 and the number is not 28...and lo and behold "x" errr "t" marks the spot was closer than I thought...

ps. one of my friends who I badgered into helping me noted:
"I just saw the colors in your email and I don't see indigo or violet listed often ... and curiously, roygbiv is the order of the colors in the rainbow. I had a physics teacher beat that into me back in high school during some prism lessons."

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Krypter wrote:
The key word in regard to the colours is RED. As in the type of fish. Shame on some of the posters for your trickery! Language would make a difference to someone speaking, say, French who didn't also read English, but then again they wouldn't be reading this forum.

It is apparent to me from your comments that you used a different technique to solve the puzzle than was intended—not that there's anything wrong with that! But I can assure you that the colors *do* have meaning, and if you use them as intended, you don't need to have any knowledge of the English language.

-Vic.
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Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

There are 30 capstones. That's not really important to the puzzle—only the ones you can see are of value to the solution. But if thinking that there are 26 or 28 helps you solve the puzzle, go nuts!

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:
Travioli wrote:
i got a total of 26 capstones other people got 30 and others got 28. How many are there?

There are 30 capstones. That's not really important to the puzzle—only the ones you can see are of value to the solution.

-Vic.
.

Really? then I got the right answer for the wrong reasons... sorta, kinda. 30 including the trilithons? I guess you do just need to worry about the capstones you can see. Interesting...


Vic Wertz wrote:
It is apparent to me from your comments that you used a different technique to solve the puzzle than was intended—not that there's anything wrong with that!

Funny, that's what my MENSA proctor said too, but with less grace and without an acknowledgement of Occam's Razor. :)

Vic Wertz wrote:
But I can assure you that the colors *do* have meaning, and if you use them as intended, you don't need to have any knowledge of the English language.

Ah, I see what you mean now. Sorry, I skipped the middle man to bring me savings in anguish. I retract my colour statements, although in that case either your artist or I need to get our monitors calibrated, because those colours (indigo/violet/blue) are way off. They look like navy blue, purple and cyan. This will vary A LOT depending on people's colour/contrast settings, monitor manufacturer and even operating system, so it's a little unfair to base a puzzle on something that is so open to interpretation.

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Krypter wrote:
those colours (indigo/violet/blue) are way off. They look like navy blue, purple and cyan.

There's two reasons why that's not important. First, it doesn't matter what you call them—you could even refer to them solely by their numeric wavelengths in the light spectrum, and the puzzle would still work. (In fact, that might make it easier for some people who are getting hung up on it...)

Second, they didn't even really have to have been the seven "rainbow" colors—they could just be seven different shades of red, so long as they still held the proper relative relationships to one another, and it would still work.

-Vic.
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rugbyman wrote:

Got it. Oh, you clever, clever monkeys! Good puzzle. You realize, of course, that I'll be looking for more of these in the future.

And a tip of the hat to previous posters. Knowing the correct number of stones is crucial.

And more there shall be! You heard it here first, folks: Rubgyman demanded more puzzles so more puzzles you shall have!


Krypter wrote:
Honestly, I think these kinds of gimmicks cause more frustration than anticipation. I can't see it helping marketing at all.

I'll speak to that: I wanted to do something fun and since Mike Selinker is the Puzzle King it was an easy way to create a fun buzz on our website. We'll be doing more puzzles with similar results--if you're not enjoying the process of puzzle solving regardless of the reasoning behind it ... well ... I can't help you then. :-)


It seems to me that once you figure out what each stone and its relative position represents, then the colors indicate how to re-order the pieces of that puzzle in to proper order. The color itself isn't important other than the fact that they need to be reordered to ROYGBIV order, taking their representative parts with them.


And for the record, even with all these hints, I still got nothin. Number of stones - means nothing to me. Distance, spacing, relative position - all nothing.


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ya know, one of those "what character are you" tests said i am a wizard with 17 intelligence... that doesn't seem accurate right now :-)

messy


Dracorat wrote:
And for the record, even with all these hints, I still got nothin. Number of stones - means nothing to me. Distance, spacing, relative position - all nothing.

Ignore the number of stones but I *thought* 26 was important when I solved it...

Now that I know the solution, it is hard to come up with a clue that isn't too easy but for my fellows who have struggled with me since the equinox...

Go backwards from T and see what you see.
With roy g biv* order there shall be...

Cheers,
Van

*spacing means nothing just poetic license :o)

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Vic Wertz wrote:


It is apparent to me from your comments that you used a different technique to solve the puzzle than was intended—not that there's anything wrong with that! But I can assure you that the colors *do* have meaning, and if you use them as intended, you don't need to have any knowledge of the English language.

-Vic
.

Hmm. I may have solved it the wrong way too, but I have to say, I would not have gotten the right answer if I only spoke, say, Spanish.

Russ


Finally. I have to say that I ignored everything I've read up till now and just drew the thing out on paper finally, being careful to mark relative distances, and that's all it took.

Looking over the last few posts I can tell you that someone recently gave out not so much a clue as dead giveaway. I think you should delete it if you still can.

To understand the values of the colors, much as we'd all suspected, is to not need any anagram generator.

At least that was my experience.

Liberty's Edge

no habla engles.


Heathansson wrote:
no habla engles.

Trying to keep it vague... suffice it to say color plays the role I think we all thought it played upon first viewing of the puzzle.

Liberty's Edge

Did you see Christmas Story, when he got the secret decoder ring in the mail?
All I can say is, if Heathansson can get this gimboid thing, anybody can.


Did you get this thing yet?

Liberty's Edge

Josh Frost wrote:
rugbyman wrote:

Got it. Oh, you clever, clever monkeys! Good puzzle. You realize, of course, that I'll be looking for more of these in the future.

And a tip of the hat to previous posters. Knowing the correct number of stones is crucial.

And more there shall be! You heard it here first, folks: Rubgyman demanded more puzzles so more puzzles you shall have!

Yes. More puzzles. I'm enjoying the feeling of vast intellect right now, and it simply must be quashed.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Did you get this thing yet?

Yes. I was closer than I believed myself to be two days ago.

Zute Alors! (no habla french either)


Heathansson wrote:


And more there shall be! You heard it here first, folks: Rubgyman demanded more puzzles so more puzzles you shall have!
Yes. More puzzles. I'm enjoying the feeling of vast intellect right now, and it simply must be quashed.

Ok. I can see you got it. ;)

Liberty's Edge

I was reading clues, and going, "what's Spanish for rainbow? Does the rain in Spain fall of Salisbury Plain? No, that's in England." Cripes, I feel like senior finals are over or something.

Scarab Sages

Holy crap,...... this is killing me.

Tam


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vandemonium wrote:

Go backwards from T and see what you see.

With roy g biv* order there shall be...

which way is backwards???

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

i now have less hair than chris perkins.

messy :-)

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messy wrote:
vandemonium wrote:

Go backwards from T and see what you see.

With roy g biv* order there shall be...

which way is backwards???

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

i now have less hair than chris perkins.

messy :-)

Start with Indigo and work your way toward the front of the drawing. Indigo then Red and so on with Orange being last.

I finally figured it out with vandemonium's poem! :)


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Lord Stewpndous wrote:

Start with Indigo and work your way toward the front of the drawing. Indigo then Red and so on with Orange being last.

I finally figured it out with vandemonium's poem! :)

ok, i have the list of the colors, and i still have no idea whatsoever.

the only thing i'm sure of is that i feel like the recipient of a feeblemind spell.

messy

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messy wrote:
the only thing i'm sure of is that i feel like the recipient of a feeblemind spell.

You know, as Freud once might have said, sometimes a "T" is just a "T."

Mike


~sighs~ Maybe I need to go for advanced caveman firestarting classes. I am trying, but no go. I get that there are 7 colors, but the variations on roygbiv that I am doing are not cutting it. ~sad sigh~ I have never been good with puzzles. I am more of a brute force person. Try every combination untill I get it. Unfortunatly, I am not. Getting it that is.

~growls~ And the Were-hampster got it! There is no justice in this world!

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