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Ray Winninger's Dungeoncraft articles???


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I am a big fan of Ray Winninger's Dungeoncraft articles and would love to have the entire series in one place. Does anyone know if the entire series (which, according to Dragon 293, lasted for more than 40 months!) is collected somewhere?

What I would like to do is take all the articles and then format them together in a single giant PDF so I would have them all togethet to read like a book. I am going to search around on the net myself and see what I can find, but if anyone knows of a site that has them all collected, I would LOVE to hear about it!

Thanks!


I'd quite like a hardcover of a whole bunch of Dungeon's DM advice articles. They're filled with invaluable information written by people who have been DMing since before I was born!

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If you're interested in a really great published work of good DM advice, I suggest getting hold of a copy of the AD&D 2nd edtion rules supplement soft back "Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide" published by TSR in 1990.
Much of the Dungeoncraft articles that you miss said a lot of the same things Paul Jaquays and William W. Connors wrote. Any DM really wanting to improve their DMing abilities should pick this book up and read it.


I agree! I have the Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide and agree it is very good. Now, if only I could get my hands on the complete Ray W. Dungeoncraft articles, life would be complete :)


I love how they sell PDFs of old books now. That book you spoke of is available on this very site. Convenient!

http://paizo.com/store/downloads/wizardsOfTheCoast/aDAndD2/rulebooks/v5748b tpy7mql


Just wanted to update everyone on this. I came across a decent plain text file containing all of Ray W's Dungeoncraft articles. It's very good and complete but, because it's just unformatted plain text, it's pretty hard to read.

So ...

Since I am a graphic artist by trade, I am in the process of formatting the text in Quark (adding color, pull quotes and headings, a nice D&D Third Edition rule book kind of page look etc). I might even sdd some art to spice it up. When I'm done, I am going to make a PDF so I can read the articles anytime I like. It's turning out very well so far - it's time consuming but it's a labor of love I guess ... :)

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Marc Radle wrote:

Just wanted to update everyone on this. I came across a decent plain text file containing all of Ray W's Dungeoncraft articles. It's very good and complete but, because it's just unformatted plain text, it's pretty hard to read.

So ...

Since I am a graphic artist by trade, I am in the process of formatting the text in Quark (adding color, pull quotes and headings, a nice D&D Third Edition rule book kind of page look etc). I might even sdd some art to spice it up. When I'm done, I am going to make a PDF so I can read the articles anytime I like. It's turning out very well so far - it's time consuming but it's a labor of love I guess ... :)

It is unfortunate that someone has lifted text from the magazine and put it online and distributed it without permission. I would hope that you do not plan to do the same.

Jason Bulmahn
Managing Editor of Dragon


I was laying odds to see who would be the first one to post that on this thread. I won $5 from myself! =)


Wow.

I wasn't planning on selling it or in any other way gaining from doing this. I'm just doing it for myself and perhaps a few friends who also love those articles so we don't have to carry around 20 some issues of Dragon.

Believe me, I understand how important copywritten material is. Are we now saying I can't do even this???

Paizo Employee Lead Designer

Marc Radle wrote:

Wow.

I wasn't planning on selling it or in any other way gaining from doing this. I'm just doing it for myself and perhaps a few friends who also love those articles so we don't have to carry around 20 some issues of Dragon.

Believe me, I understand how important copywritten material is. Are we now saying I can't do even this???

I did not mean to imply that were going to distribute it, but I get deeply concerned whenever I hear about the content of the magazines floating around the internet. Fair usage generally means that once you own content, you can do what you will with it, so long as it does not transfer to another or make it freely available to those who do not own it. So while you are free to pretty up and use the text as you like, when I see threads like this, it frequently turns into "hey, can you send me a copy of that?"

I just wanted to toss a warning out there. Piracy is a problem for everybody these days and we are not immune.

Jason Bulmahn
Managing Editor of Dragon


I think what Jason is saying is that the magazine can't condone the online distribution of content it holds the copyright to. I wouldn't take it personally; even if they don't have a problem with it themselves, the editors are responsible for keeping on top of the magazine's properties.

If you're not distributing it publically, I don't think Dragon would really have a problem with it. I'd really like to see it, personally. (Perhaps you could strike a deal with Paizo and they could sell it in their shop? :)


Thanks Jason! Trust me, I understand completely.

I guess I was sharing this with everyone more because I was glad to have found the articles finally and am VERY happy and excited with how the final product is turning out ...


Quick follow up question ...

I would like to collect all the Dragon issues that contained Ray's Dungeoncraft articles. Does anyone know what issue range they were?

I think they started in issue 255 and went to at least 287. Does anyone know if they went farther than 287?

Thanks!


Marc,

I too loved Ray Winninger’s articles and as an aside I believe they were originally placed on the web when Wizard’s of the Coast had them as hyperlink documents on their old website.

Anyway, the issues that the articles ran in are as follows: issues 255 through 290 and issue 293. Good luck with finding all of them. Maybe we’ll get lucky and the articles will be considered good material for the Dragon Compendium II? :-)

Good gaming,
Mark


These articles WERE online freely on the old Wizards site. Again, I would like to see them again. It would be great to have some sort of product regarding them, free or not.


On top of the Dungeoncraft articles (which have since been taken off the WotC site), there was a "crossover" of sorts with Dungeon magazine, featuring an adventure written by Ray W. that detailed the game world he was creating throughout the later run of articles.

I think the adventure was called "The Scar". I'll have to look up the issue number, but someone may beat me to it.

It came out in an issue numbering in the late 80's or the very early 90's, if I recall.


Really??? I would LOVE to see that! Does anyone know what issue this was in?


Marc,

“The Scar” appeared in Dungeon Issue #80. It was the culmination of the Dungeoncraft articles to that point, where the campaign backdrop had been developed. “The Scar” served as an example of a solid first adventure that hit upon several of Ray’s Rules of Dungeoncraft. The scenario is definitely worth checking out.

Good Gaming,
Mark


Thanks Mark!

I just checked Paizo's Downloads section of the website thinking I would buy the PDF of this issue, but there are only 4 Dungeon issues for sale? Am I missing something? I though most if not all of the past issues of Dungeon and Dragon were available for PDF purchacse

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