The Perfect D&D Movie


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While I would love to see my personal favorite (Kalamar - realistic, and works best as a low-magic setting) get some movie visuals, I don't think I could ever forgive myself if the movie didn't live up to my personal internal vision for the campaign setting.

(As I'm sure that everyone feels the same about their personal favorites.)


To my mind the perfect D&D movie was made back in the 80s.

Krull has everything you need. Noble fighter gathers a band of rogues a wizard and a cleric to fight The Beast. It has magic, heroics, cool weapons, Giant (well a cyclops), the coolest baddies (Slayers) and Princess locked in a tower.

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Nermal2097 wrote:

To my mind the perfect D&D movie was made back in the 80s.

Krull has everything you need. Noble fighter gathers a band of rogues a wizard and a cleric to fight The Beast. It has magic, heroics, cool weapons, Giant (well a cyclops), the coolest baddies (Slayers) and Princess locked in a tower.

You know, I love that movie, although the shapechanging dude was annoying at best and the Glaive wasn't used nearly enough. However, I must say that if you consider that the perfect D&D movie then, in my opinion, you have very low expectations. Then again, considering some of the "fantasy/SciFi" movies that hollywood has foisted upon us over the years, it is probably best to have low expectations.


Compare Krull to Dungeons & Dragons.

There are better Fantasy/Sci-fi films than Krull. Labyrinth and Dark Crystal being two but I think Krull has more D&Dness about it than D&D.

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Krull was good. Not great or perfect, just good. Willow wasn't bad, I actually liked the movie alot. Sinbad and the eye of the tiger was a great D&D movie (as are most sinbad movies, NOT the idiot comedian). Probably ranks as one of my favorites.

FH

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Nermal2097 wrote:
Compare Krull to Dungeons & Dragons.

Hmm...Can't argue there.

Nermal2097 wrote:


There are better Fantasy/Sci-fi films than Krull. Labyrinth and Dark Crystal being two but I think Krull has more D&Dness about it than D&D.

Aahh.. I see where you are coming from now. You mean the essence of a classic adventure and an actual plot that makes sense to a gamers unique brain. When its put that way, I would definitely agree that Krull has a lot of what you called "D&Dness" to it.

Speaking of Dark Crystal, I think I posted this before, but the Jim Henson company is working on a sequel.


Yes you did mention it before. I am eagerly awaiting more news about that, especially now that my Serenity DVD has arrived and I have nothing else to look forward to.

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Fake Healer wrote:
Willow wasn't bad, I actually liked the movie alot.

I agree, Willow was a decent movie. In fact, I think that was one of Val Kilmer's best performances. And let's not forget Billy Barty (who can forget "Ze pearl is in ze river" from a completely different movie, sorry).

Fake Healer wrote:


Sinbad and the eye of the tiger was a great D&D movie (as are most sinbad movies, NOT the idiot comedian). Probably ranks as one of my favorites.

I actually have a bunch of Ray Harryhausen movies: Jason and The Argonauts, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger, and Clash of the Titans. All classics in my book. Ray Harryhausen is, in my opinion, worthy of Saint Hood, a postage stamp, and a federal holiday.

Bye the way, has anyone heard that they are going to do a new Sinbad movie with Keanu Reeves in the title roll. While I do think he might be underrated as an actor, I'm not so sure he could pull off a roll like that. Although it would be fun to watch him try.


Krull was pretty decent. I can't believe Keanu Reeves' career actually developed after "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure", which I enjoyed for its goofyness (Put them in the Iron Maiden....bogus!)

I also enjoyed a lot of the 1950's to 60's big Hollywood production Knights & Vikings type movies...there were several of those that were okay. Heavily romanticized but decent acting and good FX for the day.

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Hey Aberzombie, is there a box set I could buy of the Sinbad movies? Or the others by that guy?

FH

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Fake Healer wrote:

Hey Aberzombie, is there a box set I could buy of the Sinbad movies? Or the others by that guy?

FH

Sadly, as far as I know the answer is no. I had already owned Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger, and picked up the other ones when a nearby Sam Goody started their closing-for-good sale. I basically went through the racks and found the other movies individually. But I'm pretty sure that most of Harryhausen's movies are on DVD, and probably not that expensive.

On the bright side, you can buy King Kong, Son of Kong, and Mighty Joe Young (all the original version) in a boxed set.


Yes, you can. I have a boxed set of Harryhausen movies. Apparently, there's a couple, the one I have is his "Legendary Monsters" set. It has Sinbad & the Eye of the Tiger, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Jason & the Argonauts, 7th Voyage of Sinbad, and the 3 Worlds of Gulliver.

Clash of the Titans is great, I have fond memories of that flick. I was fascinated by the Medusa when I was a kid - my brother made a scale model of the temple where she was at for a school project.

Krull is also cool - I picked it up for 5 bucks. However, "Kull the Conquerer" sucked mightily.

Fake Healer wrote:
Hey Aberzombie, is there a box set I could buy of the Sinbad movies? Or the others by that guy?


It already exists. Its called Lodos Wars.

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Lilith wrote:

Yes, you can. I have a boxed set of Harryhausen movies. Apparently, there's a couple, the one I have is his "Legendary Monsters" set. It has Sinbad & the Eye of the Tiger, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Jason & the Argonauts, 7th Voyage of Sinbad, and the 3 Worlds of Gulliver.

Clash of the Titans is great, I have fond memories of that flick. I was fascinated by the Medusa when I was a kid - my brother made a scale model of the temple where she was at for a school project.

Krull is also cool - I picked it up for 5 bucks. However, "Kull the Conquerer" sucked mightily.

Fake Healer wrote:
Hey Aberzombie, is there a box set I could buy of the Sinbad movies? Or the others by that guy?

Thanks, just ordered it from that link.

Lilith rocks!
FH

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Has anyone seen "The Cave"? I was thinking about renting or buying it but haven't heard much about it. Any input would be helpful.

FH

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Lilith wrote:
Yes, you can. I have a boxed set of Harryhausen movies. Apparently, there's a couple, the one I have is his "Legendary Monsters" set. It has Sinbad & the Eye of the Tiger, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Jason & the Argonauts, 7th Voyage of Sinbad, and the 3 Worlds of Gulliver.

Damn, I wish I had known that before I had started buying them piecemeal. Ah well, at least I have most of them. The only ones out of that group that I'm missing are the 7th Voyage of Sinbad and the Gulliver movies.

Scarab Sages

Fake Healer wrote:

Has anyone seen "The Cave"? I was thinking about renting or buying it but haven't heard much about it. Any input would be helpful.

FH

I've been tempted once or twice to pay-per-view that one, but so far I've managed to talk myself out of it each time. To me it seemed just a little to formulaic.


What I want to see? Dark Sun, the Prism Pentad. Probably my favourite D&D setting.

What I think would be feasible or generate the most revenue? Probably Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance, as they have been around the longest. The Crystal Shard trilogy of FR would be really good, and the Chronicles trilogy from Dragonlance is an obvious choice.

Liberty's Edge

Dark Sun--with Vin Diesel as a mul. Ray Park as the main bad guy's hit man. He could be a gnarley pasty albino tatooed half elf. Then have some of the hobbits from Lord of the Rings play cannibal halflings in Dark Sun. And that big guy from Green Mile could be a half-giant.
And Tim Roth could be the major hi-level dragon sorceror mofo.
And Lucy Lawless could be a human gladiator.

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Heathansson wrote:

Dark Sun--with Vin Diesel as a mul. Ray Park as the main bad guy's hit man. He could be a gnarley pasty albino tatooed half elf. Then have some of the hobbits from Lord of the Rings play cannibal halflings in Dark Sun. And that big guy from Green Mile could be a half-giant.

And Tim Roth could be the major hi-level dragon sorceror mofo.
And Lucy Lawless could be a human gladiator.

Hey! You made the animate thread joke, what's this about then?

DIE ZOMBIE THREAD!!! DIE! DIE! DIE!!!

(I'm not helping by posting, am I?)

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Sebastian wrote:


Hey! You made the animate thread joke, what's this about then?

DIE ZOMBIE THREAD!!! DIE! DIE! DIE!!!

(I'm not helping by posting, am I?)

You played right into my hands. Bwahahahahahaha! Lawyers have no turn undead authoritah!

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Aberzombie wrote:

I actually have a bunch of Ray Harryhausen movies: Jason and The Argonauts, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger, and Clash of the Titans. All classics in my book. Ray Harryhausen is, in my opinion, worthy of Saint Hood, a postage stamp, and a federal holiday.

Bye the way, has anyone heard that they are going to do a new Sinbad movie with Keanu Reeves in the title roll. While I do think he might be underrated as an actor, I'm not so sure he could pull off a roll like that. Although it would be fun to watch him try.

For any of you who are living/visiting the UK (Yorkshire area), the Bradford Museum of Film & Photography has just started a season of Harryhausen exhibits, film screenings and lectures, one of which is by the author of that biography that Paizo just plugged (and which I got for Xmas, ho, ho!). It really does cover a lot of years; I had no idea he'd done so much.

Can anyone tell me why (apart from the blatantly obvious reason) we've yet to see Sinbad played by an Arab? Heck, even someone with a slight tan would be an improvement! Some of the actors over the years have been so white, they're practically translucent.
The stories originated in The Arabian Nights, attributed to Schehezerade, the character hails from Baghdad, in Iraq.
Guess Hollywood and the TV networks seem a tad shy of pushing a hero who'd probably resemble Saddam Hussein.

PS: no I'm not Arabian, pushing for equal representation. I just get sick of seeing flopsy-haired WASPs playing the role.

PPS: Aberzombie, it's role, not roll (sorry, couldn't resist!)

PPS: Sorry, I get it! He's a swashbuckler with Tumble, so he'll be hoping to pull off the roll (DC 25) when he rolls through the legs of the Troll! ;-P

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Nermal2097 wrote:

To my mind the perfect D&D movie was made back in the 80s.

Krull has everything you need. Noble fighter gathers a band of rogues a wizard and a cleric to fight The Beast. It has magic, heroics, cool weapons, Giant (well a cyclops), the coolest baddies (Slayers) and Princess locked in a tower.

Just a note for trivia fans; the actor who played the cyclops (Bernard Bresslaw), also played the 'giant' in the masterpiece that was "Hawk the Slayer".

Talk about typecasting!

So, Nermal, assuming we get out of the temple of Hextor next week, and level up, I take it you'll be choosing Weapon Proficiency (five-pointed boomerang-dagger-discus incorrectly named after a polearm)?


Wow "Hawk the Slayer" as a reference in a "PREFECT" D&D movie thread.

Scary.

Right up there with: The Archer :Fugitive from the Empire

Though although they sucked both had elements that have etched their way onto my memeory and into my gaming.

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Kyr wrote:
Wow "Hawk the Slayer" as a reference in a "PREFECT" D&D movie thread.

I was using the term "masterpiece" in its broadest possible sense. I.e. sarcastically...:-)

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So I noticed that someone had recently cast "Animate Dead" on this thread, and I thought "perfect". Why, you ask? It's because I finally got around to renting and watching the second D&D movie, "Wrath of the Dragon God".

There were so many things about that movie that sucked I just don't know where to begin. It might be easier to mention what I liked. I liked some of the refences made to things like the Ghost Tower of Inverness. I also liked the special effects, particularly on the dragon at the end. And, for some reason, I liked the rogue character, Nim. Other than that, the movie was blah.


id have to say what is being made into one already: The Chronicles, with Raistlin, Caramon, etc.
But this one with the New Adventures, with Davyn, Nearra, etc. but i hate greyhawk!

Liberty's Edge

Heathansson wrote:

Dark Sun--with Vin Diesel as a mul. Ray Park as the main bad guy's hit man. He could be a gnarley pasty albino tatooed half elf. Then have some of the hobbits from Lord of the Rings play cannibal halflings in Dark Sun. And that big guy from Green Mile could be a half-giant.

And Tim Roth could be the major hi-level dragon sorceror mofo.
And Lucy Lawless could be a human gladiator.

That's awesome, Heathansson of yore!!!


A second thought has come to me after perusing this thread again......

The PERFECT D&D movie is one that has no novels in the setting.

Therefore, DL, Eberron, FR, and parts of Greyhawk are out.

Leaving the Scarred lands, Freeport, Kalamar and others from small companies without a big budget.

Doing a movie from a "non-novelized" setting will make it fresh for everyone (and give a secret rush to those that support and play in that particular setting).

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undeaddragonhunter wrote:

A second thought has come to me after perusing this thread again......

The PERFECT D&D movie is one that has no novels in the setting.

Therefore, DL, Eberron, FR, and parts of Greyhawk are out.

Leaving the Scarred lands, Freeport, Kalamar and others from small companies without a big budget.

Doing a movie from a "non-novelized" setting will make it fresh for everyone (and give a secret rush to those that support and play in that particular setting).

Kalamar and Scarred Lands both have novels out. I don't remember the names but I have them in storage (will check when I can). I don't know about Freeport.

FH


I think, even though it's animated, the Dragonlance Movie might just fit the bill (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/ just in case anyone hasn't already seen it). They've got a website up right now, but I don't know the addy offhand.

Outside of that, I really like a moderately gritty movie, with a little tongue-in-cheek thrown in. Sure, it's a serious, grave story, but what's a serious story without a joke or good one-liner or two. Magic: Moderate to High. The BBEG should be high, the "PC's" should be moderate.

Choices outside of DL: Dark Sun's Prism Pentad, or the "Brazen Gambit." Forgotten Realms: Avatar Trilogy or Death of the Dragon. Planescape: Faction War. I'd really like to see the Faction War on the Big Screen.

end thoughts.
/d


farewell2kings wrote:

I was generally pleased with the SciFi channel's "Dune" mini-series after the horrendous 1985 movie with Sting in it.

I think a D&D based SciFi channel mini-series might be more plausible.

I like this idea, or even a once a week hourly series.


In my opinion the perfect D&D movie would have great special effects, a really good plotline and good actors (I can think of a great many). It would be a sort of homebrew setting tha combined elements of both Eberron and Forgotten Realms. Unfortunatley I beleive that it would be impossible to convert D&D to a movie. I don't think that any movie, no matter how much good stuff it had in it, could capture the feel of D&D.

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Low-budget films can do fine if they're done well. Here's my idea:

Make the movie black-and-white. It could be a mildly humorous, down-to-earth story about two priests of allied but different deities (maybe Helm and Torm in FR, or Pelor and Heironeous in GH). It just details their day to day life working as entry-level healers at the churches. Sometimes, one of the priests will go over to the other priest's temple just to hang out, talking about their latest customers and telling stories about what stupid things the adventurers in the area have been doing to hurt themselves recently.

We could call it.... "Clerics."

...wait a second...


Cold Steel wrote:

Prince Zeech: Ozzy Osbourne(sorry could'nt resist)

Every scene he is in would require 225+ takes.

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Fatespinner wrote:

Low-budget films can do fine if they're done well. Here's my idea:

(snippetysnip)
We could call it.... "Clerics."

Brilliant!!

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