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LOL!


Actually Nick, with that avatar it should be SOL (Sneer Out Loud).

So what's this about The Great Old Ones sitting in on the submission meeting?

GGG

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Nicolas Logue wrote:
Did you work on it Mike!!!??? Awesome! Who among the Mighty Lords of Paizo lent their ink to Elder Evils??? Tell us! GUAYAKI!!!

I didn't say that. I just said there are people who did work on it I think you'll like. :)

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Who Mike!?! Who???...

GUAYAKI!!!

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Nicolas Logue wrote:

Who Mike!?! Who???...

GUAYAKI!!!

Aw Nick, you know I can't say. :( Why must you torment yourself so badly?

Oh wait, I'm tormenting you.

Uh...

Sorry 'bout that. :\

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Mike McArtor wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:

Who Mike!?! Who???...

GUAYAKI!!!

Aw Nick, you know I can't say. :( Why must you torment yourself so badly?

Oh wait, I'm tormenting you.

Uh...

Sorry 'bout that. :\

Dude, just send me an email with the names...

WAIT WAIT!!! I WAS ONLY F%!$ING KIDDING WOTC! DON'T VAPORIZE US WITH YOUR "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" LASER-MOUNTED SPACE STATION! JESUS! IT WAS A JOKE!

Mike...

you okay?...

::Looks at smoking crater next to Mike's cubicle::

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Nicolas Logue wrote:


WAIT WAIT!!! I WAS ONLY f&*~ING KIDDING WOTC! DON'T VAPORIZE US WITH YOUR "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" LASER-MOUNTED SPACE STATION! JESUS! IT WAS A JOKE!

Howdy!

If anyone is intrested I'd love to vaporize Nicolas and pour him into the stratosphere using the most modern and cost-effective methods in the industry.

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Mike McArtor wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:

Who Mike!?! Who???...

GUAYAKI!!!

Aw Nick, you know I can't say. :( Why must you torment yourself so badly?

Oh wait, I'm tormenting you.

Uh...

Sorry 'bout that. :\

No you're not. :P

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Liberty's Edge

great! ;)


Asses to ashes, donkeys to dust.


New adventure posted to the increasingly densely-packed black hole.

"A Wolf Amongst the Flock" (horror, death and worms).

GGG

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Zherog wrote:


No you're not. :P

You might be right. ;)


Is it just me or has the Logue lost it?

Now I know how he gets so many adventures published. If his e-mails are anything like his posts, he must just wear the guys out!

I can hear it now...

(Mike): It's that horrible Logue fellow again. Whatya want me to do boss? I don't know how much more of his e-mails I can take!
(James): God...just tell him we'll print his damn adventure! Now let us all pray to the Great Gygax for some peace from this hell-spawned monstrosity.
(Mike): Wait...Oh no, we have another e-mail. It's the Pett!!!
(James): Noooooo!

Sorry...vindictive post by insanely jealous writer :(


Phil. L wrote:

Is it just me or has the Logue lost it?

Now I know how he gets so many adventures published. If his e-mails are anything like his posts, he must just wear the guys out!

I can hear it now...

(Mike): It's that horrible Logue fellow again. Whatya want me to do boss? I don't know how much more of his e-mails I can take!
(James): God...just tell him we'll print his damn adventure! Now let us all pray to the Great Gygax for some peace from this hell-spawned monstrosity.
(Mike): Wait...Oh no, we have another e-mail. It's the Pett!!!
(James): Noooooo!

Sorry...vindictive post by insanely jealous writer :(

How apropos.

"Blood and Ice" (Heroes of Battle/Frostburn) now submitted.

;)
GGG


Great Green God wrote:
New adventure posted to the increasingly densely-packed black hole.

Good god GGG! Slow down!

You're flooding the dark portal and almost single-handedly eliminating the chances for us relative newbies! Aaaccckkk!

--

As a reminder, the one, only, lonely submission I have thrown into the black hole is a collaboration with a friend not on the boards:

"Craigdarroch" (mid-level, wilderness/manor-house/other-realm, mystery/break-the-curse/escape-the-realm)

Jenni


Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:


Good god GGG! Slow down!

NEVER!!!

You'll have kill me first!

Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
You're flooding the dark portal and almost single-handedly eliminating the chances for us relative newbies! Aaaccckkk!

My hope is to subtly nudge the powers that be into holding a meeting soon, or be drowned in queries. ;)

Even a newbie can have that one adventure/bit of written work that totally rules. Think of Harper Lee and "To Kill a Mockingbird". Still the more you write, the better you get, and more likely you are to produce that one piece that makes you an immortal RP god. Anyhow, looking at modern fiction should just prove it is persistance over talent in most cases. The two kinda go hand in hand.

I'm betting you've got time for more than one query. :) Besides, I really don't want to have to write half of next year's magazines. That's just too crazy. ;)

Good Luck
GGG

PS New query in:
"Forest of the Green God" (wilderness/horror)


Great Green God wrote:
Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:


Good god GGG! Slow down!

NEVER!!!

You'll have kill me first!

Quick - where is there a God devouring monstrosity lurking when you really need one?!

;-)

Great Green God wrote:

My hope is to subtly nudge the powers that be into holding a meeting soon, or be drowned in queries. ;)

&lt;...&gt;
Besides, I really don't want to have to write half of next year's magazines. That's just too crazy. ;)

I suppose that's a somewhat worthy cause... but still... since they can't accept them all (as you say, writing half the magazine for the next year would be a bit of a stretch for anyone) think of all those rejections you're going to get. And for queries that might have a better chance if you held onto them until the *NEXT* meeting.

Great Green God wrote:

Even a newbie can have that one adventure/bit of written work that totally rules. Think of Harper Lee and "To Kill a Mockingbird". Still the more you write, the better you get, and more likely you are to produce that one piece that makes you an immortal RP god. Anyhow, looking at modern fiction should just prove it is persistance over talent in most cases. The two kinda go hand in hand.

I'm betting you've got time for more than one query. :)

Good Luck
GGG

Thank you. However, it's not whether or not there's enough time so much as whether my creative process can meet the deadline. First, unlike many of you (apparently) I don't actually come up with a lot of "great ideas" on a day to day basis. When I do think of something that inspires me to write an adventure, it takes a lot of ruminating and doodling about inside my head before I reach a point where I can put anything meaningful down "on paper". Even then, the idea is still just germinating and needs to be fleshed out into an actual plot idea comprehensive enough for a query.

I'd love to be able to whip out even just one query per Dungeon Meeting but so far I've managed to submit exactly two queries in about as many years. :-P

Ah well. Perhaps your Greatly Green God-like snap of the fingers will bring about the change that makes me a more prolific query writer.... Or not.

:-j

Liberty's Edge

I've had 3 good ideas in a year, only one of which I could figure out how to "make work" in D&D system rules. So I sent one in; it's not like they flog you for losing. ;)


I've found that I get good ideas for adventures more frequently if:

A) I'm playing a PC, as opposed to being DM.
If I'm DM, then I tend to spend more time coming up with good ideas for MY campaign... which even if I'm playing in Eberron, Greyhawk or FR, don't necessarily translate into a good "universal" adventure idea.

B) I don't actually have the time to do more than scribble down the idea, lol
I've found lately that frequency of coming up with good ideas is inversely proportional to how much time I actually have to write. I've got literally a dozen good ideas sitting in my notebook... and a new baby/promotion at work. (Neither of which leave me much time to actually write up the queries for the ideas that come to me at 4am while feeding the baby, lol)


GGG, this is getting ridiculous!!! :)

BTW, how much development do you do before you write your query?


Shroomy wrote:

GGG, this is getting ridiculous!!! :)

BTW, how much development do you do before you write your query?

Do you mean story development or general rumination? Usually I see something cool, like the fact the first (techinically 2nd) Ultra Man Series (the one that aired in the States back in the early-mid 70's) came out on DVD, or an article about haunted places, or someone mentioning something like boy, I really liked old D&D modules X4 and X5. Then I think about what I like about those things. I boil it down to a set of themes, moods, motifs, visuals, and scenes - then when I have all that I build an adventure out of it. Sometimes they just happen - BAM! Done in an hour flat. Other times I push as far as I can, realize I'm pushing too hard and wandered away from the core idea, and put it aside for a while until I can come back to it with a fresh prespective. Until then I work on something else. Granted I have no kids or wife, but I do have a house, two dogs, a full-time job and older than normal parents for someone my age, but still it's all a matter of priorities and right now I wanna write. Beyond that I want to push the concept of what one expects in an adventure.

Anyhow that's me, but really I only have two things in print in Dungeon and with the exception of the Sehan arc probably nothing else for a while considering how far in advance they plan things. Tim Hitchcock, Mike Kortes, Nick Logue, Richard Pett, greg Vaughan, Russ Brown, Jon Richards or any number of other folks is probably a better person to ask.

GGG


As much fun as it is follow the current "Proposal Psychosis" theme of the thread (while trying to ignore the sucking / flushing sounds coming from the Black Hole,) I have a question.

Can any of our esteemed editors provide an update on what type of adventures they're looking for? The most recent tips I see on what is needed are from a couple of submissions meetings ago, and these might have changed since then. I'd love it if anyone could update or validate this list:

MORE ADVENTURES NEEDED:
- Short (5,000-8,000 words)
- Low-level (1st-5th level)
- Forgotten Realms
- Eberron

NOT NEEDED:
- Rescue missions
- Doppleganger murder mysteries
- Wacky evil wizards
- Undead / Goblinoid army invasions
- Borg assimilations / Possessed NPCs
- Straight dungeon crawls
- Anything that's appeared/will appear recently
(At last count, that included spiders and aranea, Shar, pirates, dinosaurs, aboleths, hell-related stuff, hags, weasels, stoats, goats, and rabbits.)

Any updates or additions to the "More Adventures Needed" list would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


Great Green God wrote:
Shroomy wrote:

GGG, this is getting ridiculous!!! :)

BTW, how much development do you do before you write your query?

Do you mean story development or general rumination? Usually I see something cool, like the fact the first (techinically 2nd) Ultra Man Series (the one that aired in the States back in the early-mid 70's) came out on DVD, or an article about haunted places, or someone mentioning something like boy, I really liked old D&D modules X4 and X5. Then I think about what I like about those things. I boil it down to a set of themes, moods, motifs, visuals, and scenes - then when I have all that I build an adventure out of it. Sometimes they just happen - BAM! Done in an hour flat. Other times I push as far as I can, realize I'm pushing too hard and wandered away from the core idea, and put it aside for a while until I can come back to it with a fresh prespective. Until then I work on something else. Granted I have no kids or wife, but I do have a house, two dogs, a full-time job and older than normal parents for someone my age, but still it's all a matter of priorities and right now I wanna write. Beyond that I want to push the concept of what one expects in an adventure.

No wonder I can't keep up with you! I basically create a very detailed outline so it takes me days or weeks to get everything together.


Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
.... think of all those rejections you're going to get.

Yes, but think of that one possible acceptance.

Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
And for queries that might have a better chance if you held onto them until the *NEXT* meeting.

There is no tomorrow.

Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
Thank you. However, it's not whether or not there's enough time so much as whether my creative process can meet the deadline. First, unlike many of you (apparently) I don't actually come up with a lot of "great ideas" on a day to day basis. When I do think of something that inspires me to write an adventure, it takes a lot of ruminating and doodling about inside my head before I reach a point where I can put anything meaningful down "on paper". Even then, the idea is still just germinating and needs to be fleshed out into an actual plot idea comprehensive enough for a query.

Rule One: Write (type) everything down. Some of my queries this time aroundare things that I started to create months or years ago and just came back to them with some fresh eyes recently.

Rule Two: Steal like crazy. I steal ideas from every possible source, basically anything I find interesting. Do you like old adventures, fantasy movies, westerns, war movies, fight games, mountain climbing, sailing, horseback riding, golf, travel, parties, weddings, going to church, walking your dog, surfing the net, watching cartoons, watching Godzilla movies, fixing up your home, landing the big deal, falling in love, reading Lovecraft, Tolkien, Adams, Mr. Spock, Doctor Spock, it doesn't matter... Heck, I even managed to put a little Ayan Rand into an adventure manuscript scheduled for release in three monthes time. There are no really original stories, just original takes on a story. It's all about the spin. I don't come up with a lot of "great ideas" on my own. I look around see stuff that intrests me and then put it in adventure form. Look at the current AP for instance. It's a mix of pirates (cool), dinosuars (also cool), X1: Isle of Dread (very cool), 28 Days Later (very cool), and Demogorgon (old skool demon cool). Distill all that down to its coolest parts/moments/scenes and connect the dots. Ubercool.

;)
GGG


Oh most Terrible Great Green God, in my faithful adherence to your cabalistic cult's underlying tenet (overwhelm 'em with a swarm of queries and hope one skitters by unnoticed!), I have submitted another query:

A Rift in the Ice (mid-level; aquatic wilderness, aquatic dungeon, and arctic dungeon; high adventure turns into an unexpected story of redemption)


I would love to see the queries that don't make it and (after publication) the queries that do. Teknohippy set up a Dungeon Wiki for this purpose sometime back. If anyone's got adventure queries from a previous submissions meeting, I encourage you to post them. This is a good way for us all to see first hand what flies and what crashes. And I hope to see more after the next submissions meeting too. I've got just one in the bucket. Good luck everyone!


Hi TConnors!

Just in case you haven't seen it, many of us use the "Critique My Query" thread for this purpose. We post our rejected queries there for feedback from the crowd. I've learned a ton from that feedback! Posts of accepted-adventure queries are fewer and farther between because, as you've suggested, the Dungeon editors ask authors to refrain from posting them until after the adventures are published, which slows posting those down a ton.

The thread's been a bit quiet recently and will likely remain so until the next big meeting. It's a worthy read nonetheless for all of the nuggets of advice on previously tanked queries.

Check it out!


Ashenvale wrote:
A Rift in the Ice (mid-level; aquatic wilderness, aquatic dungeon, and arctic dungeon; high adventure turns into an unexpected story of redemption)

Sounds cool, Ashenvale; I like the arctic-aquatic mix. Good luck! (How cool would an igloo dungeon be, anyway?) Bring on the polar bears and narwhals!

You've all inspired me- I've just sent in my first proposal in over a decade, and my second one ever. I guess I was a bit attached to having a "perfect batting average", but it's really been too long. Here's mine:

The Verdant Cradle (mid-level Forgotten Realms, moor wilderness w/ some dungeon, carnivorous vegetables and my desperate attempt to NOT railroad the PCs...)

Well, back to my brainstorming diagram, if still got a couple more floating in my skull that I need to flesh out...


Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:


MORE ADVENTURES NEEDED:
- Short (5,000-8,000 words)
- Low-level (1st-5th level)
- Forgotten Realms
- Eberron
NOT NEEDED:
- Rescue missions
- Doppleganger murder mysteries
- Wacky evil wizards
- Undead / Goblinoid army invasions
- Borg assimilations / Possessed NPCs
- Straight dungeon crawls
- Anything that's appeared/will appear recently
(At last count, that included spiders and aranea, Shar, pirates, dinosaurs, aboleths, hell-related stuff, hags, weasels, stoats, goats, and rabbits.)

The list above inspired me for another proposal:

Dungeon of the Borg:
When an insane illithid wizard kidnaps the mayor's daughter, can the adventurers fight through the undead kobold horde to rescue her from the depths of the never-ending Dungeon of the Borg? The PCs may be their own worst enemies as they are secretly killed and impersonated by the wizard's allies, a vicious gang of dopplegangers! A Mystara adventure for 1st-level characters. (estimated length: 30,000 words and 12 maps)

Pretty awesome, right?


Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

Dungeon of the Borg:

When an insane illithid wizard kidnaps the mayor's daughter, can the adventurers fight through the undead kobold horde to rescue her from the depths of the never-ending Dungeon of the Borg? The PCs may be their own worst enemies as they are secretly killed and impersonated by the wizard's allies, a vicious gang of dopplegangers! A Mystara adventure for 1st-level characters. (estimated length: 30,000 words and 12 maps)

Pretty awesome, right?

Pretty awesome indeed! In fact... if you think about it a bit... it could actually fly if you tweaked it just so.

E.g., Tone down the really over the top stuff (like, perhaps just have a horde of kobolds, not a horde of undead kobolds), drop the unnecessary Borg reference (but keep the dopplegangers) and revise the word and map count down to a more reasonable value.

Whatever you do, though, you must keep it in Mystara! Absolutely perfect campaign setting for this kind of thing.

Seriously.

-Jenni


Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

Dungeon of the Borg:

When an insane illithid wizard kidnaps the mayor's daughter, can the adventurers fight through the undead kobold horde to rescue her from the depths of the never-ending Dungeon of the Borg? The PCs may be their own worst enemies as they are secretly killed and impersonated by the wizard's allies, a vicious gang of dopplegangers! A Mystara adventure for 1st-level characters. (estimated length: 30,000 words and 12 maps)

Pretty awesome, right?

Pretty awesome indeed! In fact... if you think about it a bit... it could actually fly if you tweaked it just so.

E.g., Tone down the really over the top stuff (like, perhaps just have a horde of kobolds, not a horde of undead kobolds), drop the unnecessary Borg reference (but keep the dopplegangers) and revise the word and map count down to a more reasonable value.

Whatever you do, though, you must keep it in Mystara! Absolutely perfect campaign setting for this kind of thing.

Seriously.

-Jenni

...Actually, I was thinking of going the opposite direction with it- but I just couldn't figure out how to fit in the dinosaur-riding pirates...


Easy! Playable only with a pre-generated set of pirate-hag PCs who ride a mismatched gaggle of dinosaurs all named Lavinia.


Ashenvale wrote:
Easy! Playable only with a pre-generated set of pirate-hag PCs who ride a mismatched gaggle of dinosaurs all named Lavinia.

"Playable only with..." Perfect!

Did I mention the aboleths in the bottom level of the dungeon?

Hmmm- Maybe I should submit this just to see what kind of response I'd get. I mean, who DOESN'T want to see what a doppleganger of a dinosaur-riding sea-hag pirate pre-gen PC would do facing off against an insane illithid wizard?
(I think I left some commas out there.)


We should write the largest collaborative query ever. Let's ask all posters on this thread to help create a cohesive, plausible, comic adventure, and then submit it from all of us. Everyone can offer a premise, we'll vote among them, then everyone can offer ideas to flesh out the chosen premise. Let's see who's the funniest and most brilliant when working with the pack. It'll be like herding cats, of course, but funky cats with a good sense of humor.


Several incongruous adventure ideas that had been tumbling about in my largely vacuous head for a couple months suddenly came together. So I just submitted this query:

It Wasn't in the Cards: (low-level; isolated village setting; short, possibly single-session adventure; powerful outsiders gamble on the moral fiber of simple villagers besieged by conjured horrors)


Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

Dungeon of the Borg:

When an insane illithid wizard kidnaps the mayor's daughter, can the adventurers fight through the undead kobold horde to rescue her from the depths of the never-ending Dungeon of the Borg? The PCs may be their own worst enemies as they are secretly killed and impersonated by the wizard's allies, a vicious gang of dopplegangers! A Mystara adventure for 1st-level characters. (estimated length: 30,000 words and 12 maps)

Uhhh, maybe this was a joke, but haven't the editors pretty clearly stated that they don't want any Mystara (or other unsupported setting) based adventures?

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Ashenvale wrote:
We should write the largest collaborative query ever. Let's ask all posters on this thread to help create a cohesive, plausible, comic adventure, and then submit it from all of us.

I can imagine it... the author credits would be as long as the stat blocks (maybe longer!).


helium3 wrote:
Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

Dungeon of the Borg:

When an insane illithid wizard kidnaps the mayor's daughter, can the adventurers fight through the undead kobold horde to rescue her from the depths of the never-ending Dungeon of the Borg? The PCs may be their own worst enemies as they are secretly killed and impersonated by the wizard's allies, a vicious gang of dopplegangers! A Mystara adventure for 1st-level characters. (estimated length: 30,000 words and 12 maps)
Uhhh, maybe this was a joke, but haven't the editors pretty clearly stated that they don't want any Mystara (or other unsupported setting) based adventures?

Yeah, I was most definitely kidding when I tried to incorporate as many elements that the DUNGEON editors said they DIDN'T want to see again in adventure queries. However, I might have fooled a few people- maybe it's a perfect gestalt that ironically makes it look like a workable adventure- I mean, come on, a 30,000 word adventure?! I think that would be the entire magazine, especially with 12(!) maps...


Steve Greer wrote:
Ashenvale wrote:
We should write the largest collaborative query ever. Let's ask all posters on this thread to help create a cohesive, plausible, comic adventure, and then submit it from all of us.
I can imagine it... the author credits would be as long as the stat blocks (maybe longer!).

As a joke, or for-reals? Because actual comic adventures are really hard to pull off. Usually they tend towards the ridiculous- slapstick traps and wildly inappropriate monsters (I blame Gary Gygax for the unintentional morbid humor of S1 Tomb of Horrors, and for intentionally writing EX1-2 Dungeonland and The Land Beyond the Magic Mirror.) I think an actual comedic plot would require some knowledge of the characters who would be the target of much of the comedy. Can anyone think of a successful comedy adventure that's been published, that was actually funny at the table?


My group found The Devil Box hilarious! It was, of course, even funnier as a read for the DM.


Ashenvale wrote:
We should write the largest collaborative query ever. Let's ask all posters on this thread to help create a cohesive, plausible, comic adventure, and then submit it from all of us.

A very fitting choice of words.

Steve Greer wrote:
I can imagine it... the author credits would be as long as the stat blocks (maybe longer!).

Imagine it? You won't have to in under two-weeks time....

GGG


Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:
Yeah, I was most definitely kidding when I tried to incorporate as many elements that the DUNGEON editors said they DIDN'T want to see again in adventure queries. However, I might have fooled a few people- maybe it's a perfect gestalt that ironically makes it look like a workable adventure- I mean, come on, a 30,000 word adventure?! I think that would be the entire magazine, especially with 12(!) maps...

Perhaps it is more like a three-part arc.

GGG

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Great Green God wrote:
Imagine it? You won't have to in under two-weeks time....

Counting the days, trust me ;). Hey, at least the 5 of us actually fit on a single line.


Steve Greer wrote:
Great Green God wrote:
Imagine it? You won't have to in under two-weeks time....
Counting the days, trust me ;). Hey, at least the 5 of us actually fit on a single line.

What's happening in under 2 weeks' time? Is that a sucking sound I hear coming from the Black Hole? Do I have time to shuffle off any more queries? Or is there some massively collaborative adventure going to show up in Dungeon #145? Come on, clue me in!

As for the massive, collaborative query, well, I've already provided the skeleton:
[u]Dungeon of the Borrgh (working title)[/u], A 3-Part Mystara Adventure Arc for 1st-level characters

Adventure Elements So Far:
- Evil Illithid Wizard Kidnaps the Mayor's Daughter (why?)
- Massive dungeon filled with undead kobolds (and an aboleth)
- At least one or more PCs/NPCs replaced by dopplegangers
- Dinosaur-riding pirate sea hags (in a dungeon)

All we need is a plot, and a few more incredibly cliche adventure elements. OK,Go!

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Steve Greer wrote:
Great Green God wrote:
Imagine it? You won't have to in under two-weeks time....
Counting the days, trust me ;). Hey, at least the 5 of us actually fit on a single line.

Man, I'm jealous. I'm out of Dungeon's pages for at least a couple more issues...I don't feel complete.

::Goes back to cranking out manuscripts and proposals, and of course downing GUAYAKI!!!::

Can't wait to read the Were_Cabbages Especial Arc though!!! Congrats gents!!! :-)

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Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:
What's happening in under 2 weeks' time? Is that a sucking sound I hear coming from the Black Hole? Do I have time to shuffle off any more queries? Or is there some massively collaborative adventure going to show up in Dungeon #145? Come on, clue me in!

Ahwe, you could call this the worst kept secret in Dungeon magazine. It was often hinted at and blatantly pimped here. The cat's well out of the bag at this point if you've read the blurb for The Seeds of Sehan adventure arc on the cover of the latest issue of dungeon.

It was written by Great Green Good, Ashavon, Farewell2Kings, Dryder, and myself from these boards.


Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

[u]Dungeon of the Borrgh (working title)[/u], A 3-Part Mystara Adventure Arc for 1st-level characters

Adventure Elements So Far:
- Evil Illithid Wizard Kidnaps the Mayor's Daughter (why?)
- Massive dungeon filled with undead kobolds (and an aboleth)
- At least one or more PCs/NPCs replaced by dopplegangers
- Dinosaur-riding pirate sea hags (in a dungeon)

All we need is a plot, and a few more incredibly cliche adventure elements. OK,Go!

I like the idea. I'll be happy to do the part where the PCs deal with a "simple humanoid infestation", preferbly inside the dungeon. For no appearent reason.

I love orcs (not in a sexual way.)

BTW, what do the J's think about this idea?


Steve Greer wrote:
Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:
What's happening in under 2 weeks' time? Is that a sucking sound I hear coming from the Black Hole? Do I have time to shuffle off any more queries? Or is there some massively collaborative adventure going to show up in Dungeon #145? Come on, clue me in!

Ahwe, you could call this the worst kept secret in Dungeon magazine. It was often hinted at and blatantly pimped here. The cat's well out of the bag at this point if you've read the blurb for The Seeds of Sehan adventure arc on the cover of the latest issue of dungeon.

It was written by Great Green Good, Ashavon, Farewell2Kings, Dryder, and myself from these boards.

Cool stuff! Well, I guess I will have to wait for a couple weeks with everybody else! BTW, great work on Tides of Dread! I loved the use of the Victory Points mechanic to tie everything together!


Uri Kurlianchik wrote:
Ahwe Yahzhe wrote:

[u]Dungeon of the Borrgh (working title)[/u], A 3-Part Mystara Adventure Arc for 1st-level characters

Adventure Elements So Far:
- Evil Illithid Wizard Kidnaps the Mayor's Daughter (why?)
- Massive dungeon filled with undead kobolds (and an aboleth)
- At least one or more PCs/NPCs replaced by dopplegangers
- Dinosaur-riding pirate sea hags (in a dungeon)

All we need is a plot, and a few more incredibly cliche adventure elements. OK,Go!

I like the idea. I'll be happy to do the part where the PCs deal with a "simple humanoid infestation", preferbly inside the dungeon. For no appearent reason.

I love orcs (not in a sexual way.)

BTW, what do the J's think about this idea?

Sounds great! So why WOULD an insane illithid be in a dungeon with a "simple humanoid infestation"? Oh, and orcs are great, but I think they have to be undead in order to wedge in one more cliche. (So why ARE they undead?) :-D

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