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Is there a black hole in the submissions room at Paizo?


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Taldor

I have two proposals in - one from October and one from November - haven't head back on either. There has been a fair amount of render activity on Campaign Workbooks lately, however.


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Steve Greer wrote:
Has anyone heard anything back regarding adventure queries that weren't outright slaughtered by ye olde render since October?

All quiet on the Flanaess Front.


I think I'm currently sitting on ten solo adventures (actually though I am cheating in that one is a three-part arc) and what is it, six collaborative adventures? (Though once again I am cheating as I will only be penning the majority of one). Oh, and there's a couple of campaign workbooks, but really I know my strengths and they ain't meant for short format. I hope that that percentages favor the bold. Course it's just not the same without Chris Wissel penning an even dozen or so adventure queries. I think I'm only querying nowadays to put off that novel I should be writing. I am such a slacker. Hmm. Hmmm? Hmm. So, hears hoping I never hear back from the black hole!

GGG

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

I submitted a proposal in early October with no word yet. Nice to see I'm not alone.


Luz wrote:
I submitted a proposal in early October with no word yet. Nice to see I'm not alone.

Oh, but you are alone, Luz.... So very alone....

No one can year you go *pop* along the event horizon.
GGG


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

I still have 5 in the very grip of the render (or his stand in, Walker) from Sep 5th -ish...

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Great Green God wrote:
Luz wrote:
I submitted a proposal in early October with no word yet. Nice to see I'm not alone.

Oh, but you are alone, Luz.... So very alone....

No one can year you go *pop* along the event horizon.
GGG

Help me....somebody, please help me....

Andoran

I put one in in the middle of November. I can't wait for it to get slaughtered, so I can blab about it, because I'm kinda proud of it.


Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

I've got in no particular order:

City on the Edge of Shadow
Cold and Alone
The Fish Singer
Blackwater
City in the Depths
Harbinger of the End
Junk
Plague of Madness
Spirit Dance
The Next War
Trollheim

G3

Andoran

How bout-- I (wish I) Was (still) a Teenage Werewolf?

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Great Green God wrote:
Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

Well, I don't have quite the list you have, GGG, but here are mine:

The Well of Sorrow (already rended and on the critiqe thread)
Feldor's Farm (1st level)
The Prison Vault of Ukriel (25th level)

Luz

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Heathansson wrote:
How bout-- I (wish I) Was (still) a Teenage Werewolf?

You just gave away your top-secret idea for an Iuz campaign, Heathansson!

Andoran

Luz wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
How bout-- I (wish I) Was (still) a Teenage Werewolf?
You just gave away your top-secret idea for an Iuz campaign, Heathansson!

Naah...not even. It's just a fun 50's drive-in flick that nobody will actually watch because the flick in and of itsself is just an excuse to get a hotty to sit in a car with you in the dark for two hours.


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Great Green God wrote:

Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

I've got in no particular order:

Here's the group I sent up the hill to the Renton Compound...

"Hearts Afire" 8th lvl
"Across the Twisted Trident Street" 12th lvl
"Reversed" 1st lvl
"Cracking the Anvil" 10th lvl
"Ninth Annual Goblin Scramble" 5th lvl

G-man...Love "The Fish Singer", just a fun title!


Luz wrote:
Great Green God wrote:
Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

Well, I don't have quite the list you have, GGG, but here are mine:

The Well of Sorrow (already rended and on the critiqe thread)
Feldor's Farm (1st level)
The Prison Vault of Ukriel (25th level)

Luz

That's okay. My last list had precisely one adventure on it and it was subject to "try again next year."

Good luck with the epic piece.... stat blocks are killer past 13th level.

-GGG


Heathansson wrote:
Luz wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
How bout-- I (wish I) Was (still) a Teenage Werewolf?
You just gave away your top-secret idea for an Iuz campaign, Heathansson!
Naah...not even. It's just a fun 50's drive-in flick that nobody will actually watch because the flick in and of itsself is just an excuse to get a hotty to sit in a car with you in the dark for two hours.

Sounds like my kinda adventure.

;)
GGG


drunken_nomad wrote:
Great Green God wrote:

Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

I've got in no particular order:

Here's the group I sent up the hill to the Renton Compound...

"Hearts Afire" 8th lvl
"Across the Twisted Trident Street" 12th lvl
"Reversed" 1st lvl
"Cracking the Anvil" 10th lvl
"Ninth Annual Goblin Scramble" 5th lvl

G-man...Love "The Fish Singer", just a fun title!

Thanks for the praise but I will freely admit the name is a complete rip-off of an old adventure prompt that I have been wanting to use since I was 13.

Speaking of which, the title for "Hearts Afire" kinda puts me in mind of a 70's chick flick, but after consulting Wiki it turns out it was a sitcom from about 12 years ago staring John Ritter. Go fig. Given the title I'm curious to see how gruesome, romantic, or funny the adventure turns out to be.

"Ninth Annual Goblin Scramble" sounds fun. Is it sorta like a "Challenge for the Champions," but for goblins?

"Trident Street" looks intriguing too.

;)
GGG


I got four pending, here goes:

Oasis of the Golden Peacock - 6th level

Finnegan O'Malley Needs Your Help! (the exclamation point is very important) - 3rd level

A Bright Shining Lie - 6th level

The Cottage by the Lake - 2nd level


Great Green God wrote:

Numbers are one thing, but how about some non-(or nearly non-)incriminating adventure names?

I'm (sort of) new to this thread, but I've got a couple of proposals waiting to test the render as well, both for the Forgotten Realms setting.

"Rescue in Undermountain"...talk about bad timing! When I sent the proposal in, "Expedition to Undermountain" was but a hint of a whisper of a rumor. Maybe it can be salvaged as a generic adventure or perhaps set in another Realms city. Kinda ticks me off because rarely have I ever had the "little things" in an adventure fall so quickly and neatly into place.

"Lliira's Nightmare"...I love the basic premise of this one but I'm gonna have to work a bit to make the "little things" fall into place and make the piece Dungeon-worthy.


I recently received an e-mail regarding a high-level (16th) manuscript entitled "Barpazreal Complex" I submitted in late August. They have received it and things are still pending.

As for in the query pool:
A (low to mid) three-part Forgotten Realms arc called "Vilhon Vectors" which consists of "One Mile to Mussum," "Two Years 'til Southsands," and "Three Tears for Talona."

I really like this campaign arc and am looking forward to feedback from the Paizo crew.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Modules Subscriber

Well, I'll throw in my queries here. I'm waiting on ten of them, the oldest going back to early September. Here's the name list:

"The Dead of Night"
"The Barrow of Nul'Zar"
"The Pearl of Blood"
"The Glacier-Tomb of Tundraggon"
"Vault of the Lost Thane"
"Legend of the Landshark"
"The Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga"
"Return to Needlespire"
"Valley of the Faceless God"
"The Face of the Devourer"

At least one of these I am expecting to be returned in pieces ("Vault of the Lost Thane" is a little too similar to issue #142's "Bright Mountain King"), but for some of the others I've got high hopes. You know - high hopes ... I've got - hiiiiggggh hopes ...


Weird Dave wrote:

Well, I'll throw in my queries here. I'm waiting on ten of them, the oldest going back to early September. Here's the name list:

"The Dead of Night"
"The Barrow of Nul'Zar"
"The Pearl of Blood"
"The Glacier-Tomb of Tundraggon"
"Vault of the Lost Thane"
"Legend of the Landshark"
"The Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga"
"Return to Needlespire"
"Valley of the Faceless God"
"The Face of the Devourer"

At least one of these I am expecting to be returned in pieces ("Vault of the Lost Thane" is a little too similar to issue #142's "Bright Mountain King"), but for some of the others I've got high hopes. You know - high hopes ... I've got - hiiiiggggh hopes ...

Lovely titles.

In particular "The Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga." I loved, Roger E. Moore's original Baba Yaga adventure. My take on it, "Granny's Favor," got killed about a year ago, still someone's gotta be able to write something worthy of the greatest hag of all time and her TARDIS-like hut. Move that damn rubber tree plant!

Good luck, Dave.

GGG

PS And just so you all don't think I'm going soft, I submitted a new query today...."Tiger, by the Tale."

Qadira

Wow..

I'm throughly subdued by the sheer number of quries that so many of you put out (it takes me easily 2-3 weeks to compose one, especially considering the high standards that an adventure must live up to).

On a side note, is it unwise to script three adventures as being an arc? And if one is looking to do three connected adventures, what is the recommended procedure for submitting them in query form?

Anyways, I have two in at the moment, and my brain churns to come up with some Incarnum-based adventures:

"The Dread Queen's Harvest"
"Right of Ascension"


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I've never pitched a 3-arc story, but I imagine that if you did, you'd best make sure that:
* each can work as a stand-alone.
* if, say, they greenlighted two, that you could adjust things so that it's not all derailed.
* each of them is REALLY FANTASTIC! (Consider the competition...)
* each can work as a stand-alone

I know i mentioned the last point twice, but that and the penultimate points are probably the most important.

Oh yes, and unless your name is Greg Vaughan or Richard Pett (ie. a regular contributor), you're probably best sticking with single adventures (at least until you do get to regular contributor status).

Good luck.


Magagumo wrote:

Wow..

I'm throughly subdued by the sheer number of quries that so many of you put out (it takes me easily 2-3 weeks to compose one, especially considering the high standards that an adventure must live up to).

On a side note, is it unwise to script three adventures as being an arc? And if one is looking to do three connected adventures, what is the recommended procedure for submitting them in query form?

Anyways, I have two in at the moment, and my brain churns to come up with some Incarnum-based adventures:

"The Dread Queen's Harvest"
"Right of Ascension"

I just saw this on an old thread somewhere (maybe this one) but an editor mentioned they like individual arc adventures as seperate adventure queries, which might suck because I'm involved in two such queries this time around and didn't do that. However some online friends of mine and I concocted such an arc a while back in the space of one long query. Then it got accepted. (Yipee!) I would be willing to bet though that our arc proposal happened before it became an accepted form of query so there where no rules for us to break. Up until then I would guess arcs where either accidental (i.e. "Wow this Istivin thing is really long, but too cool not to do.") or handled by market insiders (i.e. the Eberron arc I believe started off as an RPGA tournament and Eric Boyd is well Eric Boyd). Still gotta say thanks to Greg Vaughan and the Paizo folks for making the first modern era mini-path happen. It's a very cool format. I like the Adventure Paths and all, but three solid adventures really fits my style of game better.

Hope that helps, and good luck.
GGG


ericthecleric wrote:


Oh yes, and unless your name is Greg Vaughan or Richard Pett (ie. a regular contributor), you're probably best sticking with single adventures (at least until you do get to regular contributor status).

Good luck.

Actually amongst my afore mentioned collaborators only one at the time was a previously published Dungeon adventure contributor, and you can check out some of that gentleman's other collaborative work next month in Dungeon 143. So while a name and solid rep will get you a second look to be sure, a solid adventure is the more sure way to go (and in turn hopefully leads you to that solid reputation).

GGG


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

The pedestrian titles of the meagear set of adventure queries I offered this time around are:

“Above the Mountains of Madness”
“Dreams of a Forgotten God”
“Holding Out ’Til Dawn”
“The Mystery of Crafthall Manor”
“The Stricken”
“True Malevolence”

They all feature hags, rescuing the mayor's daughter, dinosaurs, really nasty flightless birds, aboleths, and, . . . oh Good Lord . . . I'm so doomed.

By the way, does anyone know the true origin of the aboleth as a D&D monster? 'Cause I'm looking at my dice bag. It's sitting beside a couple of miniatures of my group's PCs. And I'm thinking that once there was this DM whose PCs dove into the water when the DM expected them to stick to the boat/coast/cliff/bridge, see? And there he was, unprepared but striving to rise to the occasion:

"You do WHAT? . . . Okay, . . . well . . . SPLASH! You all tumble into the briny depths, and the cold of the ocean closes about you. A sharp taste of salt fills your mouths and your vision blurs. . . . And . . . and there, in the shifting gloom you see . . . you see . . . you see . . .

{DM plops dice bag on table in front of PC miniatures}

. . . a terrifying aquatic shape emerge from the darkness! . . . A vaguely fish-like shape with . . . with . . .

{DM fluffs out draw strings}

. . . tentacles snaking out form its head . . . !)

No, wait. That's probably the true origin of the rust monster.

Andoran

The aboleth first appeared in I1: Dwellers of the Forbidden City, along with the Yuan Ti.
A good creature, but nowhere near as ancient and universally feared as the werewolf.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber
Heathansson wrote:

The aboleth first appeared in I1: Dwellers of the Forbidden City, along with the Yuan Ti.

A good creature, but nowhere near as ancient and universally feared as the werewolf.

Ah, but can a dice bag stand in as a werewolf when needed?

Andoran

Wha...you mean everybody doesn't have a snarky werewoof figure? I'm apalled!
I know. Just print out this page, and cut out my avatar.
(whew!)


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

I actually have TWO snarky werewolf miniatures. (But both are Reaper miniatures and accordingly way more detailed than the official D&D werewolf miniatures – but don't tell anyone HERE I said that!) Neither werewolf miniature, however, allows me to wrap up my PCs' miniatures with the deftness with which I can entangle them with my dice-bag's draw strings . . .

so . . .

The aboleth must simply be a more versatile, superior monster.

(Have you considered a nice aboleth avatar? Maybe something in a lovely green or olive gray?)


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Great Green God wrote:
Speaking of which, the title for "Hearts Afire" kinda puts me in mind of a 70's chick flick, GGG

Funny you mention 70's flick...that WAS the starting point for the script. Not a chick flick though. And "Across the Twisted Trident Street" is from that amazing Bobby Wommack song "Across 110th street" from all those blacksploitation flix. Apparently I was channeling the seventies all that week.


I have a question to the more exprienced contributors: for how long on avarage does a manuscript await trial before it gets to fly (up or down)?


Uri Kurlianchik wrote:
I have a question to the more exprienced contributors: for how long on avarage does a manuscript await trial before it gets to fly (up or down)?

Depends. If the adventure in questions is one they obviously can't use the current Gatekeeper can kill it as soon as he has time to read it (sorta like all those judicial nominees that lean a bit too far in one direction (corporate, political or religious) here in the States - no "up or down" needed). About one-half to two-thirds of all adventures are shot down here. If the adventure strikes a chord thought, it gets to hang around for the MEETING, which occurs semi-regularly every 3-6 months. Here the remaining field (the last few times I remember the number mentioned it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 90-150 queries) is narrowed to about 10 which then go through the manuscript process after that they have a 75% chance of seeing print anywhere from 6 months to 2 years later. Note, these are only averages that I have inferred over the course of watching this thread, writing queries, and talking to other folks here; exceptions do exist.

Hope that helps,
GGG


Speaking of averages, 3 months happened December 5th.... Has the Age of Worms Overload been posted-err I mean the meeting been scheduled yet? Not that I'm curious or anything.

;)
GGG

Contributor

Ditto. Except I'm EXTREMELY CURIOUS. I only have 2 in the Paizo "in box", "slush pile", "black hole", what have you. Two solid queries, though. I'm dying to get to work on both of them. Especially since I'd get to start working with my good English pal, Richard Pett. Mnaaaarrrr, Rich. Mnaaaaarrr.

Contributor

Steve Greer wrote:
Ditto. Except I'm EXTREMELY CURIOUS. I only have 2 in the Paizo "in box", "slush pile", "black hole", what have you. Two solid queries, though. I'm dying to get to work on both of them. Especially since I'd get to start working with my good English pal, Richard Pett. Mnaaaarrrr, Rich. Mnaaaaarrr.

Traitor.

Contributor

Pipe down, you. None of this "traitor" nonsense.


Okee-doke. I and my good friend Richard have thrown our collaborative hat into the black hole with a submission called "Craigdarroch" (Craigdarroch is Gaelic for "Rocky Oak Place". Try Googling it, keeping in mind that we're from Vancouver, BC, Canada.)

Hopefully it will make it past the Gray Render and into the next review meeting (which I expect will be sometime in January, given the effect the holiday season has on time and resources).

Fingers Crossed! :-D

-Jenni

Contributor

Steve Greer wrote:
Pipe down, you. None of this "traitor" nonsense.

Sorry. I love you. Werecabbages!!!

Contributor

He he.

Qadira Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Press; RPG Superstar Judge

Matrissa the Enchantress wrote:
I and my good friend Richard have thrown our collaborative hat into the black hole with a submission called "Craigdarroch" (Craigdarroch is Gaelic for "Rocky Oak Place". Try Googling it, keeping in mind that we're from Vancouver, BC, Canada.)

I've been there! Very cool mansion. I hope the adventure makes it into print.


I have nothing....nothing.....(voice of Sgt. Schultz)


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
I've been there! Very cool mansion.

Isn't it though? Absolutely cries out to be used as the centerpiece in a D&D adventure. ;-D

Wolfgang Baur wrote:
I hope the adventure makes it into print.

So do we!

--Jenni


Ah well, I fear the holiday rush and windstorm has put the ka-bosh on everyone's Adventure Submission Meeting Christmas wish.... If only Santa could spare a few editorial elves for the week perhaps then there might be a meeting, but alas I fear, barring a Christmas miracle, it is not to be.

And God bless our submissions; every one.
GGG

Contributor

Apparently lumps of coal are still being given out, though. I got my first Campaign Workbook rejection 2 days ago. So at least something is going on with queries. How the heck did Paizo know I was bad this year?!

Contributor

Great Green God wrote:

Ah well, I fear the holiday rush and windstorm has put the ka-bosh on everyone's Adventure Submission Meeting Christmas wish.... If only Santa could spare a few editorial elves for the week perhaps then there might be a meeting, but alas I fear, barring a Christmas miracle, it is not to be.

And God bless our submissions; every one.
GGG

Oh, hey! And welcome to the "Contributor" club!


Steve Greer wrote:
How the heck did Paizo know I was bad this year?!

Any number of ways, I'm sure. I'm thinking...

detect evil
scrying
wiretapping


Steve Greer wrote:
Apparently lumps of coal are still being given out, though. I got my first Campaign Workbook rejection 2 days ago. So at least something is going on with queries. How the heck did Paizo know I was bad this year?!

Yes, I got a lump of coal in that form as well, but then Campaign Workbooks are not my first love.

GGG


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

"Let my render GO!"

Surely, the lumdering beast is gorged on tofurkey and sugar-free 'organic' candy canes from the holidays...I have five lil proposals set up like bowling pins ready for the strike. They grouped together and charged in a straight line (they never listened to their trainer...serpentine, serpentine...do not bunch up! spread out!)

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