Amazing Stories™ and Undefeated® Going on Hiatus


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Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Paizo Publishing, LLC, publisher of special-interest gaming and entertainment magazines DRAGON®, DUNGEON®, Undefeated® and Amazing Stories™, announced today that it will temporarily suspend publication of two of its titles—Amazing Stories and Undefeated. Despite respectable sales and increasing circulation, both periodicals face substantial market pressures and competition. Paizo intends to use the break to explore unique opportunities to revamp and reposition each magazine.

“We remain quite proud of these titles, and are presently considering a number of options that should provide a long and exciting future for both magazines,” says Lisa Stevens, co-owner and CEO of Paizo Publishing. “Both Amazing Stories and Undefeated are doing well in their respective niches; nevertheless, we believe that they could be even more successful. We certainly value the support our subscribers and regular readers have shown to Amazing Stories and Undefeated, and we hope that this hiatus will be brief.”

Amazing Stories #608 went on sale January 4, with Undefeated scheduled to reach newsstands on January 18. These will be the last regular issues printed prior to the hiatus. As Paizo is still developing plans for the continued publication of both magazines, at this time subscriptions are not automatically being cancelled or transferred to other titles. Subscribers wishing to cancel their subscriptions can contact Paizo Publishing at customer.service@paizo.com. Plans are also underway for subscribers and visitors to the Paizo e-commerce store--[URL=/]paizo.com[/a]--to obtain an exclusive e-copy of Amazing Stories #609 in early February. Back issues of both magazines are also available at the [URL=/]paizo.com[/a] Web site.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Just a quick update - we're continuing to develop the future of Undefeated, but at this point, it looks like we won't have anything firm to say until at least the beginning of April.

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:

Just a quick update - we're continuing to develop the future of Undefeated, but at this point, it looks like we won't have anything firm to say until at least the beginning of April.

-Vic.
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It's April 6th.

Any news?

Liberty's Edge

Ok... its April 11, 2005. Still no update or news.

We're one issue behind so far, does that mean we're gonna get credit to our subscriptions?

Or be able to cash out or transfer our remaining issues to another 'zine?

Jhilahd

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

jhilahd wrote:

Ok... its April 11, 2005. Still no update or news.

We're one issue behind so far, does that mean we're gonna get credit to our subscriptions?

Or be able to cash out or transfer our remaining issues to another 'zine?

Jhilahd

We're still kicking around ways to make Undefeated work for everyone. But rest assured, subscriptions are served by the number of issues, not the amount of time, so delays between issues won't count against anyone.

However, if you're not interested in waiting, and would like to cancel your subscription, or switch remaining issues to another magazine, drop a note to customer.service@paizo.com and we'll get that taken care of whenever you like.

-Vic.
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*sigh* It's May 5th.

Any good news?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

grey_zealot wrote:

*sigh* It's May 5th.

Any good news?

Nothing official. Unofficially, we're still talking to some folks about some stuff. :-)

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:
grey_zealot wrote:

*sigh* It's May 5th.

Any good news?

Nothing official. Unofficially, we're still talking to some folks about some stuff. :-)

-Vic.
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It's June 1st. How's "negotiations?" Any official updates?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

grey_zealot wrote:
It's June 1st. How's "negotiations?" Any official updates?

Officially, not yet. Unofficially, more talking with more people involved than two months ago... so that's a hopeful sign. But frankly, I suspect we're still at least a couple months away from any potential official news.

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:

Officially, not yet. Unofficially, more talking with more people involved than two months ago... so that's a hopeful sign. But frankly, I suspect we're still at least a couple months away from any potential official news.

-Vic.
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I hope that it is a good sign. But, I hope you're not getting hit with too much micromanagement. (Too many cooks spoil the broth, as the saying goes....)


Vic,
Would that news apply more to the Amazing Stories or Undefeated side, or would they be part and parcel of the whole thing?

Yours,

John

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Landshark wrote:

Vic,

Would that news apply more to the Amazing Stories or Undefeated side, or would they be part and parcel of the whole thing?

Yours,

John

At the moment, Undefeated is the hotter topic.

-Vic.
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Any plans to make an announcement around, say, July 7th? (Just curious....)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

grey_zealot wrote:
Any plans to make an announcement around, say, July 7th? (Just curious....)

No plans to make any announcement yet. We are neither go, nor are we cancelled. As soon as we have a finalized plan, we'll let folks know as much as possible pretty much right away.

Why July 7?

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:
Why July 7? -Vic.

Ah, WizKids has been a litle mysterious about an announcement they plan to make on July 7th concerning their lines.

I was just seeing if there might be any connection between their "major announcement", and Paizo's restructuring of UNDEFEATED, and my own hopes of Paizo doing an honest-to-gosh rulebook for HeroClix.

(I was really reaching. :P )


It would be a shame to lose UNDEFEATED, it is probably my favorite magazine and the only one which I read from cover to cover. Good luck UNDEFEATED team, you have produced a great magazine, and I hope that it is allowed to continue.


Vic Wertz wrote:
No plans to make any announcement yet. We are neither go, nor are we cancelled. As soon as we have a finalized plan, we'll let folks know as much as possible pretty much right away. -- Vic.

"Right away" is taking for-EVER! ;)

Well, it's July 28th.

Any hints?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

grey_zealot wrote:
Any hints?

Still nothing new to report at the moment.

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:
grey_zealot wrote:
Any hints?

Still nothing new to report at the moment.

-Vic.
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Well, I want to thank you Vic for the updates,which I realize are probablly about as complete as you can make them. Undefeated was one of my new favorites and I have friends who can't be bothered with Dragon/Dungeon but read every issue cover to cover and frequently ask me if I have heard anything. So we are all looking forward to its return. (Now, if it just would AND if I ever actually recieve a prize for having my letter published in the last issue, I will once again be 100% happy with Paizo. At least from a customer standpoint.)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Scott Carter wrote:
...if I ever actually recieve a prize for having my letter published in the last issue...

Scott, you have e-mail!

-Vic.
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Vic Wertz wrote:

Scott, you have e-mail!

-Vic.
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Got it, and sent reply. Thanks again Vic.

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Scott Carter wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

Scott, you have e-mail!

-Vic.
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Got it, and sent reply. Thanks again Vic.

Vic,

Since Scott is asking, I figured I would ask as well: I wrote the letter about historical minis in the last issue, but never got a prize. I did get a sort of consolation prize, though--the Anachronism game recommended in the response has turned out to be a lot of fun, and I never would have heard of it if it hadn't been for your magazine. Many thanks!

Regards,
Luke

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Lucas,

You also have mail.

-Vic.
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Well, it's August 30th.

Most of the Big/Huge Cons are over with.

Here I am to prod: Any new info?

:)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

At this point, it's safe to say that <i>Undefeated</i> won't be back in 2005. However, it does fit in nicely to Paizo's strategic plans - probably more so now than ever before. So... still not cancelled, and hopeful for a 2006 return.

-Vic.
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Good to hear.

Um, will remaining subscription issues still be honored in 2006?

(I can't remember how many issues I even have remaining on my subscription now. But it would be great to get one in my box in 2006...)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

grey_zealot wrote:

Good to hear.

Um, will remaining subscription issues still be honored in 2006?

(I can't remember how many issues I even have remaining on my subscription now. But it would be great to get one in my box in 2006...)

Remaining subscription issues will of course be honored regardless of the magazine's return date. (Additionally, if we were to ever determine that the magazine isn't coming back so we officially cancel it, balances would be refunded [or, upon request, transferred].) And, of course, should you tire of waiting for the return, balances can be refunded or transferred upon request right now, too.

You can see the number of issues you have remaining on any of your Paizo subs by clicking the "My Subscriptions" button at the top of the page.


Heya Vic, my name is Rod White. I did a lot of work for Undefeated since issue #2. I wanted to let you know that I'm still out here, and I'm still always looking for work (the life of a freelancer, so fruitful, eh?). So please dp keep me posted as to where Undefeated ends up going. I loved working with Mike and the magazine overall, and really miss it.

I've worked for a lot of magazines over the years (some where close to 2 dozen to be exact) and honestly working for Paizo was the most fun. So keep me posted man, I believe you can email me direct if needed from this board too if you like.

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