Non-core class acts?


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Liberty's Edge

Will the Class Acts articles be limited to just the core classes, or will we see the Psionic, Oriental and Complete classes in future issues?

The Oriental classes can be used in a non-oriental setting, change the Samurai into a Noble Knight, the Shukenja into an Elementalist and the Courier works great as a PC Aristocrat.

The one key problem with the Wilder and the Soul Knife is the lack of definition and support, so anything will help them.

The Complete class books just need examples of how to use them in current settings and how to set them appart from the core versions.

Dark Archive Contributor

As of right now we have no plans to support anything other than the core eleven base classes.


Mike McArtor wrote:
As of right now we have no plans to support anything other than the core eleven base classes.

Thank God and the Editors!


Not necessarily,
I have a Soulknife as my primary. I would love to see the non-core classes supported. If it's only the core things and not much different, we have another Living Greyhawk on our hands. It can get a tad boring.
Andrew D. Carter


The whole point of Class Acts is to find a way to keep the core material from being boring and to illustrate new ways of looking at "old" material. Every gaming group that plays D&D can get something out of the Class Acts series, because well over 90% of all characters (and 100% of characters using just the PH) are going to be members of at least one of these classes.

That said, I personally don't see anything wrong with one-off Class Acts style coverage of psionic classes. I believe, however, that Dragon's current stance of "cover the core and only the core" places the psionic rules in poor stead to receive frequent coverage in the magazine.


I mentioned this in another thread and I agreed on there being Class Acts articles on non-core classes. New feats, prestige classes, spells, epic feats, all geared toward the non-core classes would be wonderful to see as well. The Soulknife has tons of potential from what I can see.


As a rule, I think the Class Acts should remain devoted to the core classes.

When a magazine establishes a standing item, such as Class Acts, it should maintain consistency. There are several reasons, not the least of which is to present a format that a new reader (and potential subscriber) can count on receiving in future issues. Retention and consistency are important for building a readership base.

As long as the feature continues to serve a purpose, and I think Class Acts does, both for new players as well as experienced ones, then it is important not to deviate from the format.

That said, some readers of longstanding appreciate a surprise every now and then. Maybe after Class Acts has run for a year, the editors might consider one issue in the course of the year devoted to non-core classes. That would work especially well in a themed issue, say one devoted to planar adventures, Oriental adventures, or one in a particular setting.

Liberty's Edge

Troy Traylor has some good ideas about "surprises".

With 11 core classes, you may have plenty of potential future articles. Some will of course be better than others. I don't see why you can't throw in an occassional "class act" for a non-core class. Or make suggestions how a core "class act" could fit in with a WotC published class. Many fighter class acts would apply to an Oriental Adventure's Samurai, etc.

I know very few people want a 4th edition, but I do hope they'll finally resolve the psionics core/non-core debate. It either needs better inclusion (as even an option) or to be discarded altogether.

An example unrelated to the magazines - in the DMG it provides information on how to "populate" a town. It offers no suggestions for the inclusion of psionic classes. The Psionics Handbook (wheter expanded or not) does not "fix" the problem.

Paizo has a chance to independently "fix" the problem. I mean, if you can cover "D&D Miniatures" (please stop, by the way), you should be able to devote 1 page every issue to a single non-core class in "class acts". Or, as I said above, just mention how that article can "fit" with a non-core class.


I,m Looking for a copy of the article on the Oreintal Adventures
if anyone can help with this I would much appreshiated(sorry I can't spell to good)

Dark Archive Contributor

DragonX22 wrote:

I,m Looking for a copy of the article on the Oreintal Adventures

if anyone can help with this I would much appreshiated(sorry I can't spell to good)

If you mean the issue with the 3.5 rules update of <i>Oriental Adventures,</i> you need issue #318.

I should point out that you can pick up that issue at paizo.com/backissues. Unless it's sold out. ;)

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