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Chris Mortika (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Thu, Sep 25, 2008, 01:28 PM

Two of the reviews for this product said that there was a noticable power creep in this book. Did anyone else notice that? Could you give an example? Does anyone think that power creep would be a problem, this early in 4th Edition's lifespan?


Tancread, Thu, Sep 25, 2008, 05:05 PM

I can only comment on the heroic level gear but I didn't see any real powercreep. The new stuff is interesting, but nothing really over powering.


Timothy Bannock, Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 06:52 AM

Chris Mortika wrote: Two of the reviews for this product said that there was a noticable power creep in this book. Did anyone else notice that? Could you give an example? Does anyone think that power creep would be a problem, this early in 4th Edition's lifespan? From what I read, it's not that it's power creep, so much "this is the bar we want to set it at." Considering how much of this stuff is usable by all classes, and that the so-called "power creepy" items span items that are usable by each class, you can't really call it power creep if it's balanced that way, can you. Don't get me wrong though: there might be a half-dozen items that seem like must-haves, but again, it's not like these are all stacked in one area (i.e. it's not like all of them are fighter weapons, or wizard implements, or something). And don't forget: every book gets errata'ed nowadays. Overall: I'd say it's a really great first sourcebook.


P.H. Dungeon (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 04:02 AM

I haven't looked too closely at it yet, but there a couple of cheesy non magical weapons that are little out of whack- executioner's axe, full blade (Basically stuff out of the 3E arms and equipment guide that I hated). I haven't looked too much at the magic items yet. Some of them seem really high level for what they are. For instance, the ring of feather falling is a LV 14 item. In 3E it was a low level item.


Azigen, Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 06:57 AM

P.H. Dungeon wrote: I haven't looked too closely at it yet, but there a couple of cheesy non magical weapons that are little out of whack- executioner's axe, full blade (Basically stuff out of the 3E arms and equipment guide that I hated). I haven't looked too much at the magic items yet. Some of them seem really high level for what they are. For instance, the ring of feather falling is a LV 14 item. In 3E it was a low level item. Items tend to be higher levels in 4e, much like rituals.