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Extemporaneous Channeler (Occultist) Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures.
I love this description. I absolutely was checking out Jackie Chan for inspiration for this section.
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Gotcha, so nothing as revolutionary as a full unchaining?Any word on if this helps the Ninja Rogue Alternate class at all? I know it suffered from not being unchained for easy dex-to-damage, plus other things. The descriptions would seem to indicate it, but it might all just be monk stuff they assume you'll use.There's a couple of normal and advanced Ninja Tricks.
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Cheers Rysky, you rock.
Any chance of some more information on the shifter?
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Cheers Rysky, you rock.
Any chance of some more information on the shifter?
^w^
Their Aspects are based on the original style feat chains (Boar, Crane, Tiger, etc) and their abilities mesh with those Styles. When gaining Style Feats they can instead leave it open as a Wildcard so that when they Shift they get the Style Feats associated with that Aspect. They also apply Unarmed Strike Feats to their Shifter Claws.
Oh my, this book is really chock-full of options. They surely didn't waste much time on flavor text and fully concentrated on crunch. :) I love the Samurai archetype, which replaces the mount and some other abilities with really good alternatives.
Does the Gunslinger archetype stack with Pistolero (or any other archetype, for that matter)?
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Does the Gunslinger archetype stack with Pistolero (or any other archetype, for that matter)?
It replaces quite a large number of deeds, including deadeye, so it can't stack with Pistolero.
It does stack with gun scavenger, but I think that's the only one it does stack with.
replaces deadeye, gunslinger's dodge, gunslinger's initiative, startling shot, and expert loading
Are there any feats or abilities that allow for an unusual weapon to become a Monk Weapon for purposes of Flurry?
I know the usual trick would be to dip cleric for a particular diety/Weapon, but I kind of hate that myself.... lol
Could I get more info on vigilante? what does it replace and what's the oni powers like? do you get much from a 1-4 level dip?
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I hate to say it, but the vigilante archetype doesn't quite work right, just like most other vigilante archetypes currently.
So, a 1 level dip is pretty good if you have standard vision because while in your vigilante identity, you'll get darkvision and low-light vision. Downside is that you have to be non-good while in that identity. You also gain improved unarmed strike with some damage scaling identical to Fist of the Avenger.
At 4th level you get alter self for minutes/level per day, but at 6th level you gain a gore attack while in your vigilante identity. At 12th level you get eye beams level per day as a swift action.
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I hate to say it, but the vigilante archetype doesn't quite work right, just like most other vigilante archetypes currently.
So, a 1 level dip is pretty good if you have standard vision because while in your vigilante identity, you'll get darkvision and low-light vision. Downside is that you have to be non-good while in that identity. You also gain improved unarmed strike with some damage scaling identical to Fist of the Avenger.
At 4th level you get alter self for minutes/level per day, but at 6th level you gain a gore attack while in your vigilante identity. At 12th level you get eye beams level per day as a swift action.
It works just fine because the Giant Form only lasts in minutes per level, whereas the US and Gore attacks are always on.
Question on the handwraps... Can you still use the hands for other things, or do you need to slip them on and off like gloves?
And if the hand is occupied, presumably they're just the move action to put on much like readying any other weapon?
I'm assuming the line about weaving coins and bars to get special material bonuses allows you to 'specific overrides general' 'this material cannot be used for items not normally made of metal' restrictions... but how much would mithral-woven handwraps cost?
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It works just fine because the Giant Form only lasts in minutes per level, whereas the US and Gore attacks are always on.I hate to say it, but the vigilante archetype doesn't quite work right, just like most other vigilante archetypes currently.
So, a 1 level dip is pretty good if you have standard vision because while in your vigilante identity, you'll get darkvision and low-light vision. Downside is that you have to be non-good while in that identity. You also gain improved unarmed strike with some damage scaling identical to Fist of the Avenger.
At 4th level you get alter self for minutes/level per day, but at 6th level you gain a gore attack while in your vigilante identity. At 12th level you get eye beams level per day as a swift action.
Yes, but minutes a level will last you for most combats in a day, so instead of having a lot of features that work well together, you have ones that are just in bits and pieces. It's definitely neat, but I'm really salty about most vigilante archetypes being disappointing, and two of the best ones, this one and agathiel, have weird abilities that don't always work together well.
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Yes, but minutes a level will last you for most combats in a day, so instead of having a lot of features that work well together, you have ones that are just in bits and pieces. It's definitely neat, but I'm really salty about most vigilante archetypes being disappointing, and two of the best ones, this one and agathiel, have weird abilities that don't always work together well.It works just fine because the Giant Form only lasts in minutes per level, whereas the US and Gore attacks are always on.I hate to say it, but the vigilante archetype doesn't quite work right, just like most other vigilante archetypes currently.
So, a 1 level dip is pretty good if you have standard vision because while in your vigilante identity, you'll get darkvision and low-light vision. Downside is that you have to be non-good while in that identity. You also gain improved unarmed strike with some damage scaling identical to Fist of the Avenger.
At 4th level you get alter self for minutes/level per day, but at 6th level you gain a gore attack while in your vigilante identity. At 12th level you get eye beams level per day as a swift action.
Most but not all. US and the Gore are something to fall back on when you're not using the Shapeshifting for whatever reason (ran out, can't, etc)
There is some synergy between scaling unarmed damage and giant form: Size increase is basically a multiplier on damage, so it's great when the damage die are big before multiplying. As Rysky pointed out, you can also combine unarmed and the gore attack (it's not flurry of blows, after all). But otherwise the archetype sounds a bit like patchwork indeed.
Now patchwork can still be a blast in actual play, so I'd give it a try.
Honestly I like a couple of the combination feats that might make my paladin better at fighting.
Course fighting giants might go better if I had a really high AC and you know, not a Dex score of 10. But still!
This book is absolutely fantastic, there's so many interesting ideas just jam-packed into it that I'm never going to be able to use because there's too many character ideas. It kind of makes me feel bad that I'm still disappointed by Gather Might and Enduring Might, since there's so much other cool stuff that I should be able to ignore it.
Am I reading things wrong or does stacking shikigami style feats+ catch of guard turn the 1gp sledge tool into a 6d6 weapon?
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Just got my contributor copies; I wrote the Weapon Specialists section, which includes the black powder vaulter, brawling blademaster, Okayo corsair, spear fighter, stick-fighting feats, and weapon tricks.
It was a fun section to design. It was also my last PF1 assignment for Paizo, so this is the end of a chapter in my freelance career... and the beginning of a new one. :-)
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I suppose I've hinted at my sections, but to specify, I wrote the unarmed experts and improvised adepts sections. I'm really happy Luis and Eleanor were able to find room for some things I thought would have to be cut for space reasons from the archetypes I did. The whole book looks great and I'm really excited to see it in use.
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Just got my contributor copies; I wrote the Weapon Specialists section, which includes the black powder vaulter, brawling blademaster, Okayo corsair, spear fighter, stick-fighting feats, and weapon tricks.
It was a fun section to design. It was also my last PF1 assignment for Paizo, so this is the end of a chapter in my freelance career... and the beginning of a new one. :-)
Woohoo! Thankies for these, can't wait to see what comes next ^w^
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I suppose I've hinted at my sections, but to specify, I wrote the unarmed experts and improvised adepts sections. I'm really happy Luis and Eleanor were able to find room for some things I thought would have to be cut for space reasons from the archetypes I did. The whole book looks great and I'm really excited to see it in use.
Aaah, so that explains why the iron ring magus stacks with any unarmed damage increase and brawling samurai only with monk levels. Two people, different strokes. :)
Hmm. Okay, it's probably just paranoia (to many legalese rules discussions), but:
Nothing really says that the Battle Dancer can move between iterative Flurry attacks - just that they have to.
I assume that's an oversight or was simply left out because of "common sense", and they don't need to get the ability to do so from somewhere else just so they can Flurry.
Huh, somehow I had put an "at least" into the "must move" rule, and thought they could also move more than 5 feet, which then created a chain reaction of ambiguity in my head.
Still, this is separate from usual 5-ft steps. "While using this ability, she can still take her normal 5-foot step before or after making her attacks."
So, if their attack-step is separate from their usual 5 foot step, if I'm not mistaken they can actually still flurry against people who are 10 feet out of reach by taking their regular 5 foot step, and then their attack step to get into reach (and then step back and forth between two spaces from which you can attack the target).
The only downside I see is that later in the game you need at least 35 feet movement if you want to do a full flurry, since "She can’t exceed her maximum speed.", and you get 7 flurry attacks at level 16. With 30 feet movement, you're stuck at 6 attacks.
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Huh, somehow I had put an "at least" into the "must move" rule, and thought they could also move more than 5 feet, which then created a chain reaction of ambiguity in my head.
Still, this is separate from usual 5-ft steps. "While using this ability, she can still take her normal 5-foot step before or after making her attacks."
So, if their attack-step is separate from their usual 5 foot step, if I'm not mistaken they can actually still flurry against people who are 10 feet out of reach by taking their regular 5 foot step, and then their attack step to get into reach (and then step back and forth between two spaces from which you can attack the target).
The only downside I see is that later in the game you need at least 35 feet movement if you want to do a full flurry, since "She can’t exceed her maximum speed.", and you get 7 flurry attacks at level 16. With 30 feet movement, you're stuck at 6 attacks.
There's plenty of ways around that.
Yeah, at level 16 you should have a way to deal with that. I guess a bigger concern would be that anything that prevents you from moving now also prevents you from flurrying.
But then, mobility is the whole point of this archetype (that, and dancing), so having ways to deal with that is essential, anyway. (Which is also why I think having to roll Acrobatics to prevent AoOs on difficult terrain won't be a problem for long, because a high-level battle dancer will probably ignore difficult terrain most of the time, anyway.)
Knockout was situational anyway (many enemies are immune or have good fortitude), so occasionally leaving a lingering flanking bonus for your ally behind seems like a fair trade to me.
Brawler's Cunning vs. Dancer’s Cunning is flavorful, and having to invest a bit into charisma instead of a flat "you count as int 13 for combat feats" isn't much of a problem, just yet another incentive for charismatic performance combat fighters (and your unarmed strikes become performance weapons, so yay).
Only Dancing Dodge seems like a downgrade. You lose a permanent AC bonus, and get a limited-times-per-day, immediate action 5ft movement + bonus to AC against a single attack instead. You even provoke AoOs from this, and the enemy might be able to follow you with his 5ft step to continue attacking, so this may need a lot of situational awareness to properly use...
^Dancing Dodge doesn't linger very long (just through your partner's next single attack, and ONLY IF your partner AND the target don't move). And it is even less of a sure result than Knockout (instead of getting a decent chance to knock an enemy out if they don't have the right immunities, your partner just gets a modestly improved chance to do some damage, with the exception being if your partner has something specifically flank-dependent like Sneak Attack). So I'd call that a downgrade as well except in the above-mentioned situation.
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I really LOVE the Brawling Blademaster. Also, please excuse the obscure reference, but... this archetype makes me thinks of Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia:
- Yuri was a knight before being an errand; we all know that cavaliers and samurais fit that trope ;)
- He rarely wears armor; the archetype favors light armor or none. I know that in the game, armors are equipable items, but his original outfit doesn't have armor pieces, as opposed to other characters.
- He fights with both swords/axes and his fists/kicks; guess what the archetype does emphasize on.
- He's ambidextrious; the archetype allows you to switch off-hand weapons.
- He has several one-on-one duels; the archetype keeps the challenge ability. In other Tales games, the main characters have less duels, although Asbel Lhant from Graces F is the closest to match Yuri in terms of duel numbers.
So... yeah :)
For my part, the only thing I might want to do is to trade the katana for a better weapon, such as the split-blade sword :P
Oh yeah, fun fact, the Brawling Blademaster can be combined with the Ward Speaker, no joke :D
I just also saw the Brawling Blademaster. Now find a reliable way of turning temporarily invisible and incorporeal and moving super-fast, and build for crit-fishing (being proficient with the Katana helps with this), and you've got a decent implementation of a WarCraft III Blademaster(*).
(*)Missing Mirror Image, but just about nobody ever skills that on a Blademaster anyway -- I think I have seen this once ever.
^Dancing Dodge doesn't linger very long (just through your partner's next single attack, and ONLY IF your partner AND the target don't move). And it is even less of a sure result than Knockout (instead of getting a decent chance to knock an enemy out if they don't have the right immunities, your partner just gets a modestly improved chance to do some damage, with the exception being if your partner has something specifically flank-dependent like Sneak Attack). So I'd call that a downgrade as well except in the above-mentioned situation.
Sparring Partners, not Dancing Dodge. But anyway.
It needs coordination with your group, yes, but it only requires coordination with your group.
If your ally acts right after you (they can delay if necessary, both of you should have decent dexterity and thus initiative), the enemy gets no chance whatsoever to move. And whether your ally moves - well, don't use it if they want to move.
Given the battle dancer's mobility, they should be able to tumble behind an enemy, set up flank, and tumble back to the relative safety of "not in the middle of all enemies", all in one Rolling Flurry.
And yes, your ally needs to be able to make use of your flanking, while also not being too dependent on your thrice per day maximum ability.
So, while it does need specific conditions to be useful, the conditions it needs are mostly under the player's control.
In the end, either is situational. If you're in an undead-heavy campaign with a sneak attacker, it's a straight upgrade. If you're primarily fighting fey and none of your allies can get more than a +2 to hit from flank, it's a straight downgrade. In either case, it's just a low-level ability with few uses per day and shouldn't be the focus of the character.
I really LOVE the Brawling Blademaster. Also, please excuse the obscure reference, but... this archetype makes me thinks of Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia:
- Yuri was a knight before being an errand; we all know that cavaliers and samurais fit that trope ;)
- He rarely wears armor; the archetype favors light armor or none. I know that in the game, armors are equipable items, but his original outfit doesn't have armor pieces, as opposed to other characters.
- He fights with both swords/axes and his fists/kicks; guess what the archetype does emphasize on.
- He's ambidextrious; the archetype allows you to switch off-hand weapons.
- He has several one-on-one duels; the archetype keeps the challenge ability. In other Tales games, the main characters have less duels, although Asbel Lhant from Graces F is the closest to match Yuri in terms of duel numbers.So... yeah :)
For my part, the only thing I might want to do is to trade the katana for a better weapon, such as the split-blade sword :P
Oh yeah, fun fact, the Brawling Blademaster can be combined with the Ward Speaker, no joke :D
This reference just made me want to play this archetype immediately, and I don't even have the book yet. :-)
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Am I reading things wrong or does stacking shikigami style feats+ catch of guard turn the 1gp sledge tool into a 6d6 weapon?
I was just looking for an answer to the same question. It looks like that may have been the intention, but the actual text may mean it does not.
For every style feat you have that lists Shikigami Style as a prerequisite, treat the improvised weapon as an additional size category larger...
Shikigami Mimicry and Shikigami Manipulation are not Style feats (they do not have the “style” tag in parentheses after their names).
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Why didn't you take the chance to give rules for using Unchained Monk with older Monk archetypes in this book.
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Am I reading things wrong or does stacking shikigami style feats+ catch of guard turn the 1gp sledge tool into a 6d6 weapon?I was just looking for an answer to the same question. It looks like that may have been the intention, but the actual text may mean it does not.
For every style feat you have that lists Shikigami Style as a prerequisite, treat the improvised weapon as an additional size category larger...Shikigami Mimicry and Shikigami Manipulation are not Style feats (they do not have the “style” tag in parentheses after their names).
It looks like there was an unintended use of the word "style". It seems what is supposed to happen is that Manipulation and Mimicry are supposed to increase the damage dice, but the actual base style feat does not.
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Why didn't you take the chance to give rules for using Unchained Monk with older Monk archetypes in this book.
Likely a combination of word count limits, that being an entirely different book concept, and that there is already a 3pp version of that out there.
Ideally, if this were to happen it would simply be a free download from paizo for use to us. It requires you to have the original book that the archetype is from, but informs you how to convert to the unchained monk. Overall, I doubt paizo will ever do this, especially with 2e looming around the corner.