Advanced Firearms

Out of the people who allow guns in their game to begin with, who all actually lets advanced firearms in? Like commonplace guns

In my steampunk game I have advanced firearms. I don't really use Paizo's rules for firearms (don't attack touch but use penetration rating, redid costs, added/changed many feat) though, so not sure if I count.

In my steampunk game I have advanced firearms. I don't really use Paizo's rules for firearms (don't attack touch but use penetration rating, redid costs, added/changed many feat) though, so not sure if I count.

Would you mind sharing your houserules? ive wanted to make firearms more common on some games

Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:

In my steampunk game I have advanced firearms. I don't really use Paizo's rules for firearms (don't attack touch but use penetration rating, redid costs, added/changed many feat) though, so not sure if I count.

Would you mind sharing your houserules? ive wanted to make firearms more common on some games

I didn't make these rules for the most part, I stole penetration rating from people on here:

Firearm specifics

The original rules gave penetration rating 2+ for one handed firearms and penetration rating 4+ for two handed. I didn't see a reason for the discrepancy, but you may so that is why I'm mentioning it. Now firearms are ignoring at most 5 or 6 AC, which is still +25-30% to hit, but its not the 95% chance you can easily get with firearms now.

Feats

A few of those have nothing to do with firearms, but most are firearm related. Just ignore the others.

Here are the PRC's I made for my game that are gun related:
Gun Mage
Pistoleer
Rifleman

Feel free to poach what you want.

I find some of the rules hard to believe. The mechanic doesn't really seem to capture the actually lethality of firearms. I understand that it's trying to stay balanced, but in reality you have a chance to survive a dagger to the neck (highly unlikely, but we're talking about heroes here), but a bullet into the gray matter is gonna put you six feet deep if you aren't treated immediately. Does anyone know or have some home-brew that does firearms better justice?

Being stabbed/sliced/etc with a great axe is also likely to kill you more so than most bullets. The game is also an abstraction and falls apart when subjected to hard realism.
If you want a more gritty game you are better off using wound points/blocks or a similar mechanic.

My Crimson Throne GM is running in a homebrew world where advanced firearms are standard. Our paladin has a rifle. I have named bullet. :)

I'm working on a full modern campaign using the firearms from Modern Path 2.0. I still use the early and advanced firearms, but they're so antiquated that most people laugh at them when they see them.