Fourshadow |
Fourshadow wrote:Berselius wrote:Kalindlara wrote:The nupperibo and the eye of the deep both have the advantage of having appeared in the Adventure Path line, although the latter is beholder-y enough that Paizo might not want it simply out of a desire to distance their brand from iconic D&D creatures. ^_^Maybe they could make them giant floating eyeballs capable of generating storms whose tendrils can burrow through skulls and turn humanoid beings into berserk slaves instead? :DThe Aatheriexa doesn't do exactly what you asked for, but it is darn close.
[url]http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/aberrations/aatheriexa[/url]With this creature, I don't need Beholders. These suckers are really insidious, nasty and have some similarity to beholders, but bring in some creative differences! Including casting Lightning Bolt--there's your storm generation.
I absolutely loved Bestiary 5.EDIT: Guess I have no idea how to make links work...sorry.
What you need to do is [ url = (put the url here) ](put the text you want to link to the url here)[ / url ], without the spaces. For example, the aatheriexa.
Hope that helps!
It did help, thank you.
For some reason, these critters remind me of the classic Island of Terror with Peter Cushing.Anyway, carry on with your wishes for Beasts in these fantastic Bestiaries...
Todd Stewart Contributor |
AmbassadoroftheDominion |
Todd,
I am quite interested in the other four, but as it stands the only three I know of are in an article your wrote during the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path, End of Eternity. is there a specific source I should look into regarding the others?
the three I know are the Colorless Lord, the Maker of Kings, and the Wanderer.
the Hungry Teeth sounds amazing, but I don't think I've read about him.
Luthorne |
Todd,
I am quite interested in the other four, but as it stands the only three I know of are in an article your wrote during the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path, End of Eternity. is there a specific source I should look into regarding the others?
the three I know are the Colorless Lord, the Maker of Kings, and the Wanderer.
the Hungry Teeth sounds amazing, but I don't think I've read about him.
In the same article, he said:
Several of the best known of these godlike beings are noted here, though others, such as the blathering Mother of Tongues, the formless Lord of Entropy, the vine-eyed Watcher in the Wheel, and the dreaded Lord of the Insane, are known to other races in fearful rumors and the raving of madmen.
So that's probably the other four. Not sure about Zolo of Hungry Teeth, though.
Luthorne |
Yes but what product(s) where they mentioned in?
As AmbassadoroftheDominion noted, it was in the article on Proteans, Keepers of Chaos, from The End of Eternity.
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
Yes but what product(s) where they mentioned in?
According to the Pathfinder Wiki, all of the named Protean Lords are mentioned in Pathfinder #22: The End of Eternity (the Legacy of Fire AP issue mentioned previously.
Oops. Ninja'd. Of note, the "protean lords" page on the wiki only has the main three. Each of the other named lords has its own page.
Paris Crenshaw Contributor |
OK, thanks for the info, it is hard to remember in what book is what information.
I do find it strange to call a protean lord "the Maker of Kings". Maybe call it "the Maker and Breaker of Kings".
Well, if it helps, his full title is "The Crownless, Maker of Kings."
As for remembering sources, I totally agree. I find that the Pathfinder Wiki's citations are often more important/valuable than the information on the pages.
Luthorne |
OK, thanks for the info, it is hard to remember in what book is what information.
I do find it strange to call a protean lord "the Maker of Kings". Maybe call it "the Maker and Breaker of Kings".
The 'kings' in question are those proteans rising to become keketar, it seems, as well as arriving when a keketar chorus receives visions that herald some change in their philosophy.
Todd Stewart Contributor |
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AmbassadoroftheDominion wrote:Todd,
I am quite interested in the other four, but as it stands the only three I know of are in an article your wrote during the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path, End of Eternity. is there a specific source I should look into regarding the others?
the three I know are the Colorless Lord, the Maker of Kings, and the Wanderer.
the Hungry Teeth sounds amazing, but I don't think I've read about him.
In the same article, he said:
Keepers of Chaos wrote:Several of the best known of these godlike beings are noted here, though others, such as the blathering Mother of Tongues, the formless Lord of Entropy, the vine-eyed Watcher in the Wheel, and the dreaded Lord of the Insane, are known to other races in fearful rumors and the raving of madmen.So that's probably the other four. Not sure about Zolo of Hungry Teeth, though.
Zolo (of Hungry Shapes) is mentioned in passing in the Cuthbert's mace portion of Artifacts and Legends.
The Gold Sovereign |
So, uhh...someone suggested that this book was put in place of the Encounter Codex because people didn't like the idea of said codex?
1) Why didn't people like the Encounter Codex?
2) Is the Encounter Codex still going to happen?
1) I don't get why people wouldn't like this codex... I'm really looking forward to it!
2) Below are Sir Erik words about it in the Adventurer's Guide board.
Encounter Codex is still in the mix, but has not yet landed in a permanent spot. It's neither gone, nor forgotten... nor next.
Plausible Pseudonym |
Did we ever get word on whether non-Horsemen daemons are in this one? I just realized the (awesome) Phasmadaemon and (pretty ok) Obscidaemon from Book of the Damned 3 never got printed in a Bestiary. Plus there's the (supremely awesome) Lapsudaemon in Hell's Rebels 4. But maybe they're too high CR to all make it in, and 1-2 wouldn't be worth doing.
Luthorne |
Hmm, I'd like to see the centianima, kuribu angel, morgodea, nightprowler nightshade, procyal agathion, scrivenite, scythe glass swarm, shadow golem, slithering pit, telgrodadt, tenome, typhilipede, and/or zephyr of the Hell's Rebels monsters, I think.
Edit: Though the proteans would also be cool.
Kalindlara Contributor |
Luthorne |
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Ok, I found it, wow, it's weak for a nightshade.
That's actually a reason I like it...if you want to use nightshades, you can toss these in earlier, or you can toss in a few to beef up a nightwalker encounter. Not to mention, a nightwalker with a few nightprowlers as pets or minions is a cool - and perhaps slightly terrifying - mental image.
Edit: Though I should say I also think they're cool in their own right.
Charles Scholz |
I like the artwork, though it is a water veela, it can easily be used as air based veela. I don't care if they have genders, though I prefer them female, but for other reasons that Dragon78 that only wants pretty female pictures, I have more deeper reasons.
I checked the pawns to see if the other elements were in there, but it had just the one; and only one at that.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Nightterror |
Dragon78 wrote:Ok, I found it, wow, it's weak for a nightshade.It's intended to be the bottom end of nightshades, and fills the CR spread for them up. I wouldn't expext us to do any more of them in the future...
I dont really understand. Why environment drakes and giants get endless variety and nightshades (which are much more interesting) stop at just six?
James Jacobs Creative Director |
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James Jacobs wrote:I dont really understand. Why environment drakes and giants get endless variety and nightshades (which are much more interesting) stop at just six?Dragon78 wrote:Ok, I found it, wow, it's weak for a nightshade.It's intended to be the bottom end of nightshades, and fills the CR spread for them up. I wouldn't expext us to do any more of them in the future...
Because the design philosophies for the CR niche occupied by giants is much wider, and because the initial CR niche that drakes were supposed to occupy (CR 3 to about 8—they were intended to fill a gap that was "sub true dragon) ended up being eroded through lack of communication of the intent.
Since nightshades are created so much less frequently, we've been able to control their creation more easily. Furthermore, they're intended to be a high CR category of foe anyway, so going lower than the nightprowler kinda goes against their fundamental theme.
And because part of the nightshade theme is that there's a specific nightshade to epitomize different movements—originally flying, burrowing, walking, and flying. That expanded with the nightskitter and the addition of a climb rate. With the nightprowler, we've already broken that initial design theme and instead have a new theme following along a human/quadruped/winged/finned/arachnid/legless motif. If we figure a way out to expand that category more, there might be more nightshades to come. I had initially thought we'd used up all the categories with the nightskitter, but the redefinition made a certain amount of sense.
And because not everything has to iterate forever.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
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James Jacobs wrote:It's intended to be the bottom end of nightshades, and fills the CR spread for them up. I wouldn't expext us to do any more of them in the future...There are 26 demons in the bestiaries so far.... but nightshades are the ones who are full up now?
Correct. Not everything needs to be or SHOULD be infinitely expandable. Sometimes things are defined by the fact that they have relatively narrow and low-number groupings.
Dragon78 |
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Sorry, I meant "Nightwing" not "Nightcrawler". But still, considering how nightshades are formed, CR14 should be the lowest one.
When I think of plant like Nightshades, I do not think of fungus. Maybe a shadowy poisonous flytrap or sundew like one or even a flowering plant like a lotus of pure darkness.