Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)

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A Campaign Fit For a Queen

The kings and queens of Korvosa have long ruled under the shadow of the Curse of the Crimson Throne—an infamous superstition claiming that no monarch of the city of Korvosa shall ever die of old age or produce an heir. Whether or not there is any truth to the legend of the curse, Korvosa's current king is but the latest victim to succumb to this foul legacy. Now, the metropolis teeters on the edge of anarchy, and it falls to a band of new heroes to save Korvosa from the greatest threat it has ever known! This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, including new and revised content and nearly 500 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

This hardcover edition of Curse of the Crimson Throne contains:

  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • An in-depth gazetteer of the city of Korvosa as it exists under the rule of its new queen.
  • An array of new rules options for characters, ranging from campaign traits to spells to magic items.
  • An expansive appendix with statistics, descriptions, backgrounds, and rules support for the 12 most important NPCs in the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring nine monsters from the original Adventure Path making their debut under the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, extensive new encounter locations, and more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-890-8

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The Gold Standard For Adventure Paths

5/5

This AP is widely considered one of the (if not THE) best Adventure Paths for good reason. It really is that good. Tons of really interesting NPCs and storylines. Lots and lots and lots of room for a GM to add their own touches. An excellent story that makes the PCs feel like heroes. Villains they really want to beat. Heck, it's even a good introduction to the pathfinder system and world.

Not only that, but since it's so popular, there's tons of advice about what changes to make, what to keep an eye on, and how to make changes that can improve it. This edition is a fantastic deal and an excellent campaign and I can't recommend it highly enough.


Frick it my review got deleted

5/5

I wrote fricking long review about great time I had with running the whole campaign(and post campaign) and then it got deleted by the fricking "too much backtracking" page dagnabbit

I'm not gonna write the entire thing again, so here is in short: This campaign has great recurring NPC cast(most of later APs have problem with introducing cool NPCs and then rest of books never mentioning them again), great themes, great villains, Kazavon's awesome hair, allows multiple approaches to different situations(such as infiltrating with sneaking or talking through places instead of just fighting through them. Kinda reminds me of Deux Ex computer games in a way), awesome locations, awesome post campaign potential and is one of my favourite APs ever.


Good value, but some reservations

4/5

Short Version: A smart buy but held back by structural issues.

It's hard to get better adventure value for your dollar than this or the Rise of the Runelords collected edition. If I were reviewing on that alone, this would be 5 stars and then some. But there's more to an adventure than that.

The AP's hook is quite good, but almost immediately discarded in favor of saving the city. This can be helped a good session 0, but still feels artificial.

Even looking at the new plot, many elements feel shoehorned in. People point to volumes 4 and 5 for this, but there are sections in 2 that exist only to kill time as the plot advances and an entire dungeon in 3 that is cool but can seem forced if the players don't kick in the door right away. Any of these alone would be fine, but each makes the next more obvious.

That being said, there's a lot of cool stuff going on here, it just takes at least a star's worth of work to stitch it together.


3.5 vs. Pathfinder comparison!

5/5

I´m gonna list the differences between the original AP#7s chapters and it´s adaption into the hardcover edition:

Inside front cover:
The "Korvosan Hierarchy" overview is not reprinted.
Part 1:
The illustration on page 6 is exchanged for a cartoony new one on page 12 of the HC.
Page 10 of AP#7 has a map where the 8 locations in Korvosa that are important for book 1 are marked and named. This map is reprinted on page 400 of the HC but that one shows ALL important locations of the campaign at once, marked with letters and numbers.
"Lamm´s Lambs" stats are upgraded to young human on page 18 of the HC.
"Yargin Balko" now has a full body illustration instead of an upper body one. "Hookshanks Gruller" gets a full body illustration. "Giggles" gets a fbi. "Gaedren Lamm" gets a fbi.
Part 2:
King Eodred Arabasti gets a head illu. "Imps and Dragons" gets an illustration. "Meet the mob" gets a "Amin Jalento" head illu and his battle stats.
Part 3:
The illustration of "Sabina Merrin" on page 25 is not reprinted (she gets a new one on page 455).
Part 4:
"Cressida Croft" gets a head illu (and fbi on page 443). The Queens gets a new veiled head illu (the old one is more mysterious). The "renegade guards" stats in "All the Worlds Meat" get new stats. "Verik Vancasterkin" is upgraded from fighter 3 to fighter 4.
Part 5:
The "Ambassadors Secret" gets a new head illu. The fbi of "Vencarlo Orisini" from page 34 is not reprinted. The fbi of "Devargo Barvasi" on page 37 is replaced with a new one that is very much less impressive. He is upgraded from rogue 4 to rogue 5. "Majenko" is changed from pseudodragon to house drake. The illustration on page 41 is replaced with a new one (page 57). Both are equally creepy.
Part 6:
The "Trinia Sabor" fbi from page 43 is not reprinted (she gets a new look on page 460, but the old one is flashier). She is upgraded from bard 4 to bard 5. "The Shingle Chase" gets a better illustration. Curiously it features the old flashier Trinia Sabor outfit instead of the new.
Part 7:
The Owlbear skeleton gets gorgeous art on page 59 of the HC. The cool illustration on page 52 is replaced by a cool new one on HC page 61.
Cabbagehead´s head illu is replaced by a fbi. The "Gaekhen" head illu is not reprinted. "Vreeg" gets a much better new fbi.
Concluding the adventure:
The famous "green dress Illeosa Arabasti" illustration from page 56 (on which the first miniature is based) is NOT reprinted!
The Blackjack illustration from page 57 is replaced by a much better one on HC page 67.
Appendixes:
The 4 page Harrow article is updated to a 14 page one!
The 8 page "people of the road" article about varisians is not reprinted.
The 6 page Pathfinder´s journal is not reprinted.
Bestiary:
The illustration of the "Dream Spider", the only creature that hasn´t been adapted to a Bestiary yet, is not reprinted from page 82 but it´s stats are.
Inside back cover:
The "Korvosas enemies" overview is not reprinted.

While the new edition HC is better overall and everything needed for playing the campaign is included, updated and streamlined, quite a few cool things are left out.
I´m glad i got the original AP #7 too.


Even better than the original

5/5

Read my full review at Of Dice and Pen.

It was perhaps inevitable that Curse of the Crimson Throne would one day also receive a similar treatment to Rise of the Runelords. There’s no special anniversary to celebrate this year, but does there really need to be? Much like its Runelords predecessor, the new hardcover compilation of Crimson Throne updates the adventure path to Pathfinder rules and also expands on the story where beneficial and streamlines in other areas. It also takes advantage of the most recent rules supplements, making use of newer monsters, classes, and feats where appropriate.

At nearly 500 pages in length, it is actually a substantially larger tome than the hardcover Runelords (a good 50 pages or so longer), and its extra length is certainly put to good use. Indeed, it manages to make one of the best adventure paths even better.


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Liberty's Edge

To those who are sad that the book isn't available for GenCon...

...just be glad that now we won't have a cover with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game logo. ;)

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Samy wrote:

To those who are sad that the book isn't available for GenCon...

...just be glad that now we won't have a cover with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game logo. ;)

Don't care, this will definitely replace the Advanced Class Guide as my favourite hardcover AP.


Rysky wrote:
Don't care, this will definitely replace the Advanced Class Guide as my favorite hardcover AP.

Eh. I'm not sure it's my ALL time favorite but it's certainly one of the best covers of 2016, bar none. Horror Adventures come in a close 2nd.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Don't care, this will definitely replace the Advanced Class Guide as my favorite hardcover AP.
Eh. I'm not sure it's my ALL time favorite but it's certainly one of the best covers of 2016, bar none. Horror Adventures come in a close 2nd.

There's a reason I specified "AP" :3


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Fair enough Rysky. :)

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Lady Bluehawk wrote:
Flynn Greywalker wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
Announced at GAMA Trade Show and now available for preorder! Cover is very close to final, but may change when we go to print. Description is not final.
And now we know why James got pulled off Strange Aeons. I hope Shattered Star, Second Darkness and one to two more of the older paths (I hope either Carrion Crown, Serpent's Skull or Skulls and Shackles) go this way in a year or two. I love that you guys update them and add some new material. Great call!

Meh, nothing beyond Legacy of Fire would NEED to be released like this; i.e., converted from 3.5 to real Pathfinder rules, since Council of Thieves was the first "true" Pathfinder rules-based AP.

I'll not pay those prices for just "some new material" in a hardback version of something that doesn't need conversion, but I'll say what I would buy: Flip-Mats, Map Packs, whatever-it-would-take maps at full scale, all the maps, for all the books in an AP (had to get new drafting equipment for Second Darkness's drow areas). Granted, some of those gods-forsaken huge things ("1 inch = 10 feet," anyone?) would have to be rolled up into a tube, rather than folded into a book (or block), but still...I know of at least one GM who would've greatly appreciated that for the fifth book of CoCT. :-/

LB

Maps printed out to minis scale for each volume of an AP installment would cost several hundreds of dollars... and much more if they're printed and shipped rolled in a poster. Each month, since the PF volumes are monthly. Seems weird to me to be concerned about spending 60 bucks (AKA half-price) for a full AP, but then to be eager to spend what would probably end up being thousands of dollars for a full AP's maps produced at minis scale and shipped without folds...


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

You can probably get the digital map folio for the AP go to a proffessional printer and get the maps like you want them.

Liberty's Edge

You can, but because the maps were never done at high resolution, they would be really blurry if blown up to 1 inch square scale.

I still do that, though, because even really blurry, it's still prettier than me hand drawing stuff.

Did a quick printout of a small part of the first Mummy's Mask tomb: image link. (Hope that doesn't violate any terms, I thought it was small enough for fair use, but if it's not, feel free to delete this post.) You should be able to zoom in and see how blocky it is to monitor text for example. If that's good enough quality for you, nothing is stopping you.


James Jacobs wrote:
Lady Bluehawk wrote:

Meh, nothing beyond Legacy of Fire would NEED to be released like this; i.e., converted from 3.5 to real Pathfinder rules...

I'll not pay those prices for just "some new material" in a hardback version of something that doesn't need conversion...

Seems weird to me to be concerned about spending 60 bucks (AKA half-price) for a full AP...

Pretty sure Bluehawk just meant PFRPG APs that are already owned, vs. the full conversion deluxe treatment we are getting with CotCT :)

Full set of maps certainly would be expensive though - just look at the Emerald Spire map set!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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Majuba wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Lady Bluehawk wrote:

Meh, nothing beyond Legacy of Fire would NEED to be released like this; i.e., converted from 3.5 to real Pathfinder rules...

I'll not pay those prices for just "some new material" in a hardback version of something that doesn't need conversion...

Seems weird to me to be concerned about spending 60 bucks (AKA half-price) for a full AP...

Pretty sure Bluehawk just meant PFRPG APs that are already owned, vs. the full conversion deluxe treatment we are getting with CotCT :)

Full set of maps certainly would be expensive though - just look at the Emerald Spire map set!

The Emerald Spire maps are a great example... and as expensive as those are, they're TINY compared to the majority of the maps that show up in Adventure Paths.


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Minderhal's Cathedral in Giantslayer. A full Chessex mondo-mat isn't big enough. It's 82x106 5' squares just for the base of the cathedral, over 100 pages of maps by itself. The central spire adds probably another 30 pages on top of that.

I'll find out in a few weeks how hard it is to draw by hand - doooooooomed I tell ya!.


Hmm... so at the cost rate of the "bigger" flip-mats (just under 2 cents/square), that would be $165.00.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

That's 1 map out of a dozen or more per book.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Granted, GS is a large one by design, but they won't be selling at $.02/sq. ft, either. Regular flip mats are $1.50/sq. ft.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I realize that you mentioned $.02/square, not $.02/sq. ft., btw, which works out to about $1.50/sq. ft. Sorry 'bout that. I'd edit the post but I can't any longer.


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Samy wrote:
You can, but because the maps were never done at high resolution, they would be really blurry if blown up to 1 inch square scale.

I'm not wanting to derail the topic, but why aren't they?

BTW, anybody know what happened with Game Space? I thought high-def maps were planned for that?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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magnuskn wrote:
Samy wrote:
You can, but because the maps were never done at high resolution, they would be really blurry if blown up to 1 inch square scale.

I'm not wanting to derail the topic, but why aren't they?

BTW, anybody know what happened with Game Space? I thought high-def maps were planned for that?

We pay by the printed page for a map. If we were to order maps at the resolution needed for them to be native at 1 inch per square, we'd have to pay the cartographer more, and that cost would be passed on to you, the customers, and none of that would make anyone (but maybe the cartographers, I guess) happy.

Anyway... yes, if folks want to discuss the size of map products, please move it to a new thread.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Personally, I enjoy drawing maps, and I intend to draw them for CoCT should we decide to do it. How's that for a segue back to CoCT discussion? ;)


One of the things I'm waiting to see (besides the new material) is how the shingles chase gets redone. Since the chase rules have changed, the old info doesn't work as well when running it. (Since now you can't move and cast/shoot a wand/etc while navigating a chase)


Duamatef,

I'm assuming there will be more skill checks to help with the Shingle chase so you don't have to slow stuff down. At least that's my theory.

Also: BLOOD PIG!!!

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Just in time to Terrorize a new group with Scarwall!


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A special edition of this book with a faux-leather cover was just shown at Gen Con.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
WHOOP!!! *dances around like a blood frenzied goblin*

So you are interested in Blood Goblin now???? heheheheh

-- david


Zaister wrote:
A special edition of this book with a faux-leather cover was just shown at Gen Con.

Dang, that is nice.... And so a good chunk of my store credit at my FLGS will be spent soon!!!

-- david

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Zaister wrote:
A special edition of this book with a faux-leather cover was just shown at Gen Con.

*foams at mouth*

TAKE MY MONEY. NOW.

Silver Crusade

... But it replaces the "normal" awesome cover...

Silver Crusade

... I'm very torn now. Would the leather version get the normal version's cover as a print?

Are they even being offered to the public?


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Yes, the deluxe version will be available to everyone.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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And if you're torn, buy both! :-D

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Zaister wrote:
Yes, the deluxe version will be available to everyone.

Sqquuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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James Jacobs wrote:
And if you're torn, buy both! :-D

*narrows eyes at the Directorsaur*

When did you take levels in G'ninja?


If I could I'd buy both. But the fact is I'm broke. :p :)

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Aww Fooie, it got pushed to October.


Thank goodness! got two kids going to school this year, the extra month will allow more time to recover from having to buy double school supplies. :-)


Honestly? I'm kind of glad Rysky. Like the captain, I'll need time to save up for both copies. That or wait until December.

Dark Archive

James Jacobs wrote:
And if you're torn, buy both! :-D

I´m planning on doing so. How much will the limited edition cost and what are the differences between the two?

Thx for the great work of overhauling the AP!

Community & Digital Content Director

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Details about the limited edition (such as pricing) will be available on paizo.com sometime after Gen Con when everyone's back to moot.


Thank you Chris! :)


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Honestly? I'm kind of glad Rysky. Like the captain, I'll need time to save up for both copies. That or wait until December.

Oh, I'm not getting both, I'm getting the one in my sidecart, and am grateful I'll be able to get that. Which, I'm already going to have to hug tons of stuffed animals just to afford that. :-)

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Details about the limited edition (such as pricing) will be available on paizo.com sometime after Gen Con when everyone's back to moot.

Yay!

*hugs the Roobit*


Captain,

Well I think I'll get both since I missed on Rise of the Runelords special edition...


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
And if you're torn, buy both! :-D

Wait a minute... if it's already in my sidecart, which one am I getting?


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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Details about the limited edition (such as pricing) will be available on paizo.com sometime after Gen Con when everyone's back to moot.

Figures. Pays to read ALL of the comments first!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

taks wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
And if you're torn, buy both! :-D
Wait a minute... if it's already in my sidecart, which one am I getting?

At the moment, only the standard edition exists on paizo.com.


Hey Vic - maybe an email would be in order to those who have it side-carted, with instructions for upgrading if desired?

Community & Digital Content Director

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Majuba wrote:
Hey Vic - maybe an email would be in order to those who have it side-carted, with instructions for upgrading if desired?

Absolutely something that can be arranged when we have more details/have a product page available :)

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Majuba wrote:
Hey Vic - maybe an email would be in order to those who have it side-carted, with instructions for upgrading if desired?
Absolutely something that can be arranged when we have more details/have a product page available :)

That would definitely be appreciated ^w^

Lantern Lodge

Ok why have we suddenly had the date slip by a month?! last I saw it was set to release on he 28th of September for PdF now it's october


Ronin,

My guess? It got moved to make sure other stuff got in on time for end of August/September.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

The natives are getting restless.

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